CTD making impossible to play, already tried everything to fix.

[WorldWarTheThird]

It's like 3 months, three damned months trying to mod this broken game.

For at least some day it was going well, unless some texture doesn't showing up, it still was playable.

Unfortunately I had the brilliant idea to uninstall the mod which were unuseful in game, Cloaks of Skyrim.

After that, never been the same anymore.

Random crashes everywhere.

So i've been forced to play new game.

After that, still ctd's when going to some areas such as rift or near Riverwood in the way for Whiterun.

So, i really followed everything the guide for ctd says and the problem is not gone but is become badly as hell.

In order:

1) I run save cleaner, nothin relevant so it was unuseful.

2) I run nif optimazer

3) modified the enblocal.ini to set more fixes and stability

4) sorted with loot

5) created a merged path and a bash patch(dunno what they are but the guide say so)

After all this stuff, I load the savegame, and the game crashes after 5/10 seconds EVERYTIME.

So I unselected the merged and bash patch thinkin it was causing the issue, it changed NOTHIN.

This game is officially unplayable, I'm going crazy.

I BADLY NEED AND BEG FOR HELP.

Active Mod Files:

00 Skyrim.esm

01 Update.esm

02 Dawnguard.esm

03 Hearthfires.esm

04 Dragonborn.esm

05 RSkyrimChildren.esm

06 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

07 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp [Version 4.2.2]

08 ApachiiHair.esm

09 OSA.esm

0A SexLab.esm [Version 1.62]

0B MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm

0C BBLuxurySuite.esm

0D AHZmoreHUD.esl [Version 3.7.8]

0E AHZmoreHUDInventory.esl [Version 1.0.14]

0F Campfire.esm

10 FlowerGirls SE.esm

11 KRI_CraftableSkooma.esl

12 SkyrimIsWindy.esp

13 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp

14 S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp

15 Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp

16 SkyUI_SE.esp

17 FloraRespawnFix.esp

18 Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp

19 Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp

1A SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

1B Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp

1C ELFX - Exteriors.esp

1D Blowing in the Wind - ELFX Exteriors Patch SSE.esp

1E Obsidian Weathers.esp

1F Immersive Wenches.esp

20 TrueStormsSE.esp

21 Ducks and Swans.esp

22 Bee Hives.esp [Version 2.0.3]

23 Gildergreen Regrown.esp [Version 2.0]

24 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

25 Dark_Eden_Forests_FallEdition.esp

26 JKs Skyrim.esp

27 solstheim 3D Trees.esp

28 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

29 Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 3.1.5]

2A Blues Skyrim.esp

2B JKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.esp

2C Coins of Tamriel V4 SSE Hardcore Edition.esp

2D HearthfireMultiKid.esp

2E AI Overhaul.esp

2F Unique Flowers & Plants.esp

30 Populated Skyrim Legendary.esp

31 Eli_Breezehome.esp

32 LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp

33 Man Those Borders!.esp

34 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

35 BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp

36 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

37 Settlements Expanded SE.esp

38 Blowing in the Wind - JKS_DoS_Patch.esp

39 MarriageModSE.esp

3A RomanceOfNPCs.esp

3B Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

3C 3BBB.esp

3D 3BBB-RaceMenuMorphs.esp

3E Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

3F Beards.esp

40 BRB_BeastRaceBodypaints.esp

41 Brows.esp

42 Snowy AF Windhelm.esp

43 Point The Way.esp [Version 2.0.6]

44 Khajiit Caravan Kittens.esp

45 Sea of Spirits.esp

46 Holidays.esp

47 JKS_DoS_Holidays_Patch.esp

48 FNIS.esp

49 FNISSexyMove.esp

4A KSHairdosSMP.esp

4B KSHairdosSMP - 3BBB Patch.esp

4C NB-Scars.esp

4D RaceMenu.esp

4E RaceMenuPlugin.esp

4F SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp

50 Sheps_Male_Tattoo_Collection.esp

51 Sheps_Tattoo_Collection.esp

52 SOSRaceMenu.esp

53 WNB_WeatheredNordicBodypaints.esp

54 XPMSE.esp

55 FlowerGirls SE - Bathing Beauties Patch.esp

56 CRF_RSChildrenPatch.esp

57 Neith - Timerigan Priestess.esp

58 ZaitamasAncientShroudedArmor.esp

59 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

5A DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

5B Player Blink Fix.esp

5C PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp

5D PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp

5E Obsidian_TS_Patch_Spectral_WaterFix.esp

5F AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

60 Immersive Weapons.esp

61 Smilodon - Combat of Skyrim.esp

62 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp

63 ABT SE - Kevkas All-in-One.esp

64 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp

65 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

66 BBLS_SKSE64_Patch.esp

67 SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp [Version 4.2]

68 OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE AIO.esp

69 OwnCivilWar.esp

6A Argonian Hatchlings.esp

6B Bijin AIO.esp

6C Immersive Encounters.esp

6D Morning Fogs SSE.esp

6E Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 4.0.2]

6F RSChildren.esp [Version 1.2.0.]

70 Serana.esp

71 Fenne.esp

72 PAN_NPCs_DG.esp

73 Cloaks.esp

74 Inigo.esp

75 SkyHavenTempleGarden.esp

76 OH GOD BEES.esp

77 YurianaWench.esp

78 DX Druid Armor.esp

79 Jinxxed Followers - Ivy Valentine.esp

7A Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp

7B EmbersHD.esp

7C Bring Out Your Dead.esp [Version 4.0.7]

7D Immersive Patrols II.esp

7E HothFollower.esp

7F Bells of Skyrim.esp

80 Frostfall.esp

81 __00GrandBathHouse2.esp

82 JKs Skyrim_BOYD_Patch.esp

83 Hotsprings of Skyrim.esp

84 JKs Skyrim_3D Trees_Patch.esp

85 BD Armor and clothes replacer.esp

86 LC_RevitalizedImperialArmory.esp

87 notice board.esp

88 Bracken.esp

89 JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp

8A Settlements Expanded SE - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp

8B Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp

8C Qw_S3DTrees_CRF Patch.esp

8D The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 2.0]

8E HoldBorderBanners.esp

8F Equippable Tomes.esp

90 garm_companion.esp

91 BBLSmusic.esp

92 RosaFollower.esp

93 Luxury Suite Armory.esp

94 Bells of Skyrim - JKs Skyrim Patch.esp

95 DestructibleDisplayCases.esp

96 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

97 Luthien_Follower.esp

98 Cleo94_Follower.esp

99 Patra94_Follower.esp

9A Geralt.esp

9B BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp

9C FireBurns.esp

9D AFT - Dragonborn Patch.esp

9E AFT - USSEP Patch.esp

9F AFT_NoDances.esp

A0 AI Overhaul - PAN_NPCs_DG Patch.esp

A1 All Geared Up Derivative.esp

A2 P1FlyingRing.esp

A3 Animated Wings Ultimate.esp

A4 BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp

A5 Bells of Skyrim - Dawn of Skyrim DC Patch.esp

A6 FNISspells.esp

A7 BlendedRoads.esp

A8 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

A9 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

AA Coins USSEP.esp

AB dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

AC DeadlyMutilation.esp

AD DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp

AE Dr_Bandolier.esp

AF DustEffectsSSE.esp

B0 Fertility Mode.esp

B1 Fertility Mode - Flower Girls.esp

B2 First Person Camera Height Fix.esp

B3 FollowerWander2.esp

B4 Footprints.esp

B5 General Goods Fences.esp

B6 HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp

B7 HarvestOverhaul_Redone_Creatures.esp

B8 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp

B9 iHUD.esp

BA Immersive Encounters - RS Children Patch.esp

BB Improved Traps.esp

BC Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp

BD Invisibility Eyes Fix - Apocalypse.esp

BE Lock_Overhaul.esp

BF Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp [Version 1.35]

C0 OBS_ClosingTime.esp

C1 Player_Shadows.esp

C2 zzLSAR.esp

C3 Potema Fix.esp

C4 Qw_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp

C5 Qw_BijinAIO_AIOverhaul Patch.esp

C6 Qw_BijinAIO_CRF Patch.esp

C7 Qw_ConsistentOlderPeople_AIOverhaul Patch.esp

C8 Qw_PANNPCsDG_AIOverhaul Patch.esp

C9 RSChildren + AI Overhaul Patch.esp

CA Qw_RSChildren_AIOverhaul Patch.esp

CB RichMerchantsSkyrim_x2.esp

CC RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp

CD Settlements Expanded SE - RS Children Patch.esp

CE SimpleTaxes.esp

CF Skysan_BBLSBeds.esp

D0 Smoking Torches And Candles.esp

D1 Spouse Daily Routine.esp

D2 TorchesCastShadows.esp

D3 TorchesCastShadows_WLPatch.esp

D4 Water Douses Fire.esp

D5 Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge SSE.esp

D6 Testia Angelic Armor Set.esp

D7 mihailtoxindoctoroutfit.esp

D8 Uriellefollower.esp

D9 Qw_DucksAndSwans_USSEP Patch.esp

DA TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 9]

DB Immersive Wenches -Enslaved Wenches patch-.esp

DC CBBE.esp

DD Tiwa44_Minidresses_CBBE.esp

DE Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn_CBBE.esp

DF imp_helm_legend.esp

E0 LABikiniSSE.esp

E1 UNP Undies.esp

E2 imp_helm_USSEP.esp

E3 imp_helm_Immersive_Armors.esp

E4 Luxurious Seduction.esp

E5 VioLens SE.esp [Version 2.22]

E6 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

E7 Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp

E8 Cloaks&Capes.esp

E9 WetandCold.esp

EA Obsidian_TS_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp

EB Cloaks&Capes_SMP_Patch.esp

EC Cloaks_SMP_Patch.esp

ED Qw_CloaksAndCapes_CRF Patch.esp

EE Qw_WACCF_CRF Patch.esp

EF Qw_WACCF_CloaksOfSkyrim Patch.esp

F0 Qw_WACCF_RSChildren Patch.esp

F1 more plants all extra.esp

F2 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

F3 MLU.esp

F4 PAN_NPCs_DG_MLU_Patch.esp

F5 MLU - Immersive Armors.esp

F6 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp

F7 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation_CCOR_Patch.esp

F8 CCOR_Campfire_Patch.esp

F9 Immersive Weapons_CCOR_Patch.esp

FA Cloaks_CCOR_Patch.esp

FB Dr_Bandolier_CCOR_Patch.esp

FC Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp

FD SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp

FE Hunterborn.esp

FF Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp

100 Hunterborn_RealisticNeeds_Patch_GH56.esp

101 Hunterborn_CACO-SE_Patch.esp

102 AnimalBloodPotionsSSE.esp

103 Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp

104 SkyrimIsWindy_CACO_Patch.esp

105 CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp

106 HB-WL-CraftableLanternOilPatch.esp

107 Hunterborn - Leather Tanning.esp

108 Inigo_CACO_Patch.esp

109 Qw_CACO_S3DTrees Patch.esp

10A Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

10B Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp

10C CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp

10D CCOR_Ordinator.esp

10E HOR_OrdinatorPatch.esp

10F Invisibility Eye Fix - Ordinator.esp

110 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp

111 Invisibility eyes fix - Sacrosanct.esp

112 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version e]

113 MajesticMountains.esp

114 PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp

115 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp

116 Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp

117 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

118 Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp

119 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

11A PCE - ELFX PATCH.esp

11B Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

11C SoS_ImmersiveCitizens_Patch.esp

11D Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp

11E CFTO.esp

11F CFTO - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp

120 Landscape For Grass Mods JK'S Skyrim.esp

121 PCE - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp

122 Provincial Courier Service.esp [Version 4.0.5]

123 CFTO-JK-Patch.esp

124 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp

125 Convenient Horses.esp

126 CWICRFSEPatch.esp

127 CWIOrdinatorPatchSSE.esp

128 KrittaKittyHorsesForSSE.esp

129 Settlements Expanded SE - CFTO Patch.esp

12A Landscape For Grass Mods -Immersive Citizens PATCH.esp

12B Landscape For Grass Mods -Provincial Courier PATCH.esp

12C PCE - Holidays Patch.esp

12D PCE - RDO Patch.esp

12E PCE - USSEP+CRF Patch.esp

12F Qw_BijinAIO_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp

130 Qw_CACO_RDO Patch.esp

131 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp

132 Open Cities Skyrim.esp [Version 3.1.5]

133 Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp

134 EEKs Whiterun Interiors - ICAIO - OCS.esp

135 JKs Skyrim_Open Cities_Patch.esp

136 PCE - Open Cities Patch.esp

137 SoS_OpenCities_Patch.esp

138 Bells of Skyrim - OCS+ICAIO Patch.esp

139 Immersive Encounters - Open Cities Patch.esp

13A Blowing in the Wind - Open Cities Skyrim Patch SSE.esp

13B Eli_Breezehome - OCS.esp

13C CWIOpenCitiesSEPatch.esp

13D ELFX - Exteriors Open Cities Patch.esp

13E notice board - open cities patch.esp

13F ELFXEnhancer.esp

140 SoS_ELFX+Enhancer_Patch.esp

141 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp

142 PCE - ELFXEnhancer Patch.esp

143 RealisticWaterTwo.esp [Version 2.2.2]

144 RealisticWaterTwo - ELFX Patch.esp

145 RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp

146 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

147 JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp

148 Realistic Water Two - Landscape For Grass Mods Patch.esp

149 WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp

14A Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[anjenthedog]

Best I can offer is for you to list your mods by installation date, then start uninstalling (or disabling) mods one by one, from last installed mod backwards, (ie the most recent install should be disabled/uninstalled, followed by the next followed by the next), checking with a ***an OLD save*** between disabling/uninstalling events.

1. If any of your saves loads, try to save the game under a new name. (some sort of full save, whether via MCM or console)
2. Then use Fallrim tools to purge any garbage left over by the disabled/uninstalled mod(s)
3. Then load that cleaned save.

Otherwise? I don't know. Punt and reinstall, and this time maybe try a simpler mod manager like Vortex

 

One other thing you *could try, which *might or might not help, in fallrim, try using the never/rarely discussed "Show non-existent form instances". You probably see a few thousand entries under that flag. You could try making a clean file that also removes all those entries, and nae it accordingly

 

something like "Cleaned_MyCharacter_level65_purged-form-instances-too" or something

to delineate it from the normal purged files. I was having some issues with scripts a few months ago and cleared mine in the hope there might be some crud in that which was causing issues. It either helped or at least didn't hinder, because after that, I was able to get my character to a "safe space" so she could idle for a few game days to get the engines in sync again. (now there are a ton again...2800 in my case)

[WorldWarTheThird]

Best I can offer is for you to list your mods by installation date, then start uninstalling (or disabling) mods one by one, from last installed mod backwards, (ie the most recent install should be disabled/uninstalled, followed by the next followed by the next), checking with a ***an OLD save*** between disabling/uninstalling events.

1. If any of your saves loads, try to save the game under a new name. (some sort of full save, whether via MCM or console)
2. Then use Fallrim tools to purge any garbage left over by the disabled/uninstalled mod(s)
3. Then load that cleaned save.

Otherwise? I don't know. Punt and reinstall, and this time maybe try a simpler mod manager like Vortex

 

One other thing you *could try, which *might or might not help, in fallrim, try using the never/rarely discussed "Show non-existent form instances". You probably see a few thousand entries under that flag. You could try making a clean file that also removes all those entries, and nae it accordingly

 

something like "Cleaned_MyCharacter_level65_purged-form-instances-too" or something

to delineate it from the normal purged files. I was having some issues with scripts a few months ago and cleared mine in the hope there might be some crud in that which was causing issues. It either helped or at least didn't hinder, because after that, I was able to get my character to a "safe space" so she could idle for a few game days to get the engines in sync again. (now there are a ton again...2800 in my case)

 

I've just deleted all the mods.

I'll install them back later but the problem is, I don't know which ones were causing the ctd.

I only know that they seems to happen in the same locations(and they are a lot, near Rift, near Helgen, near Riverwood, near Hrotgar), but lately more frequently and randomly...

Loot gives some info on conflicting mod, one conflicti is 3d trees-Skyrim is windy, the other is MLU with weapons clutter and fixes lvl list, dawn's of skyrim with immersive citizens, and alchemic cooking overhaul with harvest overhaul(even if the mod page say it is fully compatible)

 

I got an Nvidia GTX770 and 8 gb ram, so I don't think is memory related.

What can i do to understand which one I should not install?

 

I even tried to read Papyrus Log but it is a page full of errors, it's huge.

 

Why Vortex? Is it really better? I found MO2 more simple

[anjenthedog]

To avoid the issue during your reconfiguration efforts (presuming the game is now working) , install ONLY ONE MOD at a time (unless it has prerequisite mods, in which case, the prerequisite mod(s) should be installed first.

 

Open the game and test it following the mod installation prior to installation of any further mods.

 

If the game ceases to function improperly, uninstall the last mod, test again.

 

Afterwards (presuming you had to uninstall some mod), save tom a new save file, then run Fallrim tools on it to purge any leftovers from the now uninstalled mod.

 

Move to the next mod in your list.

 

DO NOT INSTALL MULTIPLE MODS simulataneously, or you'll probably end up here again, frustrated and not playing your game.

 

Why Vortex? Because in comparison to MO2 and NMM users, (in my experience) there are about a quarter as many posts complaining about the game CTDs from those who use Vortex.

 

Use whatever mod manager you prefer.