Showracemenu and Character creation CTD

[AdloraHealer]

Please help me, I can't start new characters or edit my old ones, even with mod workarounds like the ring of change and all that. I have 2 GeForce GT 545's, each with 1 GB of Vram. That's 2 GB of Vram when they're working together. Here are my specs:

 

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System Information

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Time of this report: 12/22/2012, 23:23:09

Machine name: CARRIE-PC

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120830-0333)

Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

System Manufacturer: Alienware

System Model: Aurora-R3

BIOS: BIOS Date: 05/25/11 09:41:30 Ver: 04.06.04

Processor: Intel® Core i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.4GHz

Memory: 8192MB RAM

Available OS Memory: 8174MB RAM

Page File: 3252MB used, 13092MB available

Windows Dir: C:\Windows

DirectX Version: DirectX 11

DX Setup Parameters: Not found

User DPI Setting: Using System DPI

System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)

DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled

DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode

 

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DxDiag Notes

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Display Tab 1: No problems found.

Sound Tab 1: No problems found.

Sound Tab 2: No problems found.

Input Tab: No problems found.

 

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DirectX Debug Levels

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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)

DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)

DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)

DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)

DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)

DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)

DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

 

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Display Devices

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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 545

Manufacturer: NVIDIA

Chip type: GeForce GT 545

DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC

Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1241&SUBSYS_091D10DE&REV_A1

Display Memory: 4050 MB

Dedicated Memory: 978 MB

Shared Memory: 3072 MB

Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Monitor Name: Dell ST2320L_Digital

Monitor Model: DELL ST2320L

Monitor Id: DELF023

Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)

Output Type: DVI

Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um

Driver File Version: 9.18.0013.1070 (English)

Driver Version: 9.18.13.1070

DDI Version: 11

Driver Model: WDDM 1.1

Driver Attributes: Final Retail

Driver Date/Size: 12/3/2012 09:47:14, 18045968 bytes

WHQL Logo'd: Yes

WHQL Date Stamp:

Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-5101-11CF-4077-10291CC2C435}

Vendor ID: 0x10DE

Device ID: 0x1241

SubSys ID: 0x091D10DE

Revision ID: 0x00A1

 

 

And here is my modlist:

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

moonpath.esm

AsharaMerchantNPC.esm

AP Skyrim.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

WetandCold.esp

Actualize Apparel.esp

AmbrosiaFashions.esp

AsharaRomanticOutfit.esp

Cloaks - Player Only.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks - No Imperial.esp

Collar.esp

TERAArmors.esp

Quest_AndTheRealmsOfDaedra.esp

Convenient Horse Herding.esp

moonpath_questdata.esp

Quest_NoMercy.esp

Quest_SeaOfGhosts.esp

Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

ASX_Spells.esp

MidasSkyrim.esp

FNISspells.esp

ASX_Potions.esp

FallOut3Hairs.esp

Oblivion hair.esp

Oblivion hair2.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

Amanda.esp

Lyla.esp

Michelle.esp

Misha.esp

CerwidenCompanion.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

More Hair Colors Vanilla.esp

ReallyPaleSkin.esp

hc5changerace.esp

XiNafay - Kitty Corset.esp

Kawaii Face Presets2.esp

Rendspire Palace Reborn.esp

 

 

I run my graphics settings on High, but I really don't believe Vram is the problem.

 

Please, please, someone help me. I'm at my wits' end, almost in tears of self-pitying despair.

[Silantro]

Try going indoors so that you'll see a loading screen and unequipping everything before trying again. If that doesn't work, try uninstalling hair packs one at a time. Have your character stay indoors whenever you use showracemenu.

[AdloraHealer]

I checked my vram usage during the crash and that really is the problem after all. Any ideas?

[ripple]

I checked my vram usage during the crash and that really is the problem after all. Any ideas?

 

The problem could be anything (not necessary your GPU), and is more likely related to the fact that you are using several hair packs. I have a 512mb GPU and run Skyhair, no issue with going into showracemenu, while some people with 2GB GPU report persistent CTDs when modifying their characters. A couple of things you can do:

 

1) if you really think it's a vram issue (and I am not saying it isn't, but it isn't 'necessarily' that), use Texture Optimizer to reduce the texture size of the hairs.

 

2) if that still doesn't work, start removing hair packs from your load order and keep only the ones you need. It's the only thing you can do.

Edited December 23, 2012 by ripple

[MShoap13]

I have 2 GeForce GT 545's, each with 1 GB of Vram. That's 2 GB of Vram when they're working together.

 

No, it's not. Any resources (textures and meshes primarily) that get loaded to one card's vRAM bank have to get loaded to the other card as well. These resources are what eat most of your vRAM. A 1920x1080 frame with 8x MSAA is like 35MB, Direct3D games will only store two frames at a time (unless your using D3DOveride to force Triple Buffering but that's beside the point). Running SLI means each card basically only draws half of each frame so you're really only getting between 35 to 100MB of extra vRAM from running SLI depending on resolution and AA options.

 

It could be your system is taking to long to find, store, decompress, and pass the resources for the hair mods on to your video card. You could try defragmenting your drive if you're using an HDD. You could try decompressing the resources and just having them be loose files (assuming they're currently in .bsa's). If you're running any mods that add a lot of Tint Masks (skin tones, lipstick and makeup colors, etc.) you could try getting rid of them or installing a version with fewer options, they take way, way longer to process than meshes and textures.

[AdloraHealer]

I play at fullscreen. Would it help to lower the screen resolution before using showracemenu or making a new char?

 

I do use Optimizer textures. I have resized my patterns to 4x4 and scaled down my textures to 1024. This sometimes works, but not always.

 

Also, I found out something very strange. If I wear a hat going into Showracemenu, I can sometimes prevent a crash...

 

I have a fantastic idea... Somebody should make a mod or a batch file that automatically turns all your gfx settings to the lowest possible when using showracemenu, Then once you're done it automatically turns it back...

Edited December 23, 2012 by AdloraHealer

[AdloraHealer]

I want to know WTF is eating up all my vram. I run Optimizer textures every time I install a new mod, and therefore don't have any textures over 1k. Is it some sort of hardware incompatibility? I can't recall it ever being this bad before. Did patch 1.8 break something?

 

EDIT: Ah. it's the hair mods. I know Wyre Bash had a thing where you could fix hairstyles so they wouldn't do that for Oblivion. Does it have it for Styrim?

Edited December 24, 2012 by AdloraHealer

[AdloraHealer]

Fixed the problem. Uninstalled Hair of Oblivion and hair of Fallout and it works fine