Ihoe Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 I did not say the Persians were a mindless horde or anything like it. The Greeks refused to bow down and Persia came knocking on their door on 480 B.C. to correct it and bring "peace" to their lands too. ;) LHammondshehehe... :biggrin:
wasder Posted December 9, 2008 Author Posted December 9, 2008 King Leonidas of Sparta?! WTF! Idiot went and got massacred at Thermopylae. Hardly warrants himself as one of the greatest people of all time. Better rulersWell, I guess this needs some splainin then. If you do not care for Democracy, then I suppose you would not care for this person either. You see, it was the Greeks that founded the idea of Democracy and they were in their infancy developing this idea.Greek deomocracy wasn't true democracy. I maintain that any culture involving slavery isn't true democracy. And, Greek democracy (to my knowledge) wasn't true democracy, in that not everyone could vote. Now, this is debating the greatest person ever, not democracy.
LHammonds Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 You see, it was the Greeks that founded the idea of Democracy and they were in their infancy developing this idea. Greek deomocracy wasn't true democracy. I maintain that any culture involving slavery isn't true democracy. And, Greek democracy (to my knowledge) wasn't true democracy, in that not everyone could vote. Now, this is debating the greatest person ever, not democracy.You are just being argumentative at this point. Please re-read the sentence I quoted from myself. "idea of Democracy" ... "in their infancy developing this idea" Again, this is not a debate thread, it is a simple listing of who YOU think is the greatest, not who you think isn't the greatest as mentioned by others. There really is not a "true" Democracy anywhere as it would be utter chaos and basically a mob-ruled country. The US is a "republic" for example. If you feel the need to debate this further, please open a topic in the "debate" forum. LHammonds
kungfubellydancer Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 On a more personal note, I will add the following (and also to deviate away from the above debate): -My parents, a Doctor and a business owner/engineer-My husband, sometimes patient and needs me to help keep him happy-My grandpa for influencing alot of my personality as a young girl and as an adult-My 7th grade history teacher, for forever opening my view on history and sociology of the world, rather than keeping it to the one-sided textbooks-Hannibal Lecter, not for being a manifestation of Satan but for being intelligent, manipulative, calm and collected.-A few unnamed faces, for showing me that goodness and virtue are not extinct in the race of Man. The above aren't really the "greatest" people as much as they are heroes or minor influential people.
dezdimona Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was. Muhammad Ali with that,topic now closed....lol
wasder Posted December 9, 2008 Author Posted December 9, 2008 I'm sorry, but as Uber Awesome as Muhammed Ali is (or was, I forget), Chuck Norris is more amazingly-fantastically-incredibly-unbelievably-super-mega-uber er... brilliant. Or, whoever invented the lazy boy sofa. God bless them.
arannya Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I'm surprised no one mentioned Barack Obama or George Bush. :DBeing Indian, I guess most people will expect me to stick Mahatma Gandhi in there somewhere but I'm going to try to be a bit unbiased.1. Sir Alexander Fleming: Invented penicillin, the first anti-biotic and saved a lot of lives in the process.2. Thomas Alva Edison: He's the reason why we have electricity in every house, he made the first truly sustainable light-bulb.3. Nikola Tesla: Supergenius whose contributions to modern science are too many to list4. Isaac Newton: I think it's obvious...5. Albert Einstein: As above.I chose the above five because of their everlasting influence. Now in terms of statesmanship, I think Mahatma Gandhi, Bhagat Singh and PM Nehru of India, PM Pierre Trudeau of Canada, Napoleon Bonaparte and Charles de Gaulle of France, Olof Palme, Dag Hammarskjöld and Alfred Nobel of Sweden, Kemal Ataturk of Turkey, Garibaldi of Italy, Nelson Mandela of South Africa, President Abraham Lincoln, General Mike Patton and Representative Leo J. Ryan(D.-Ca) of the USA, Generalissimo Kai-Shek of China, William Wallace and Robert the Bruce of Scotland, Éamon de Valera of Ireland, etc. would be but a few who are worthy of mention. My favorite persons on the other hand are:1. Freddie Mercury, vocalist, legend, rock god extraordinaire. Arguably had the best singing voice in recorded history.2. Paul Newman, actor/philantropist.3. Jack Nicholson, actor.4. Che Guevara, Marxist revolutionary5. Jimi Hendrix, greatest guitarist.
Ihoe Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 -My 7th grade history teacher, for forever opening my view on history and sociology of the world, rather than keeping it to the one-sided textbooks yes, my history teacher did the same thing as well, but for 34200 people, I forgot to mention him... the so called "Boring" history lessons need these type of people to make them... "not so Boring"
wasder Posted December 11, 2008 Author Posted December 11, 2008 History lessons are never boring! They're the most interresting lessons I have. At the moment we listen to Bob Dylan and watch videos about hippes. We are doing the sixties man! I am thinking that Alexander the Great was pretty damn awesome.
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