Oblivion 'stopped working' (help)

[IAvalonI]

I'm sorry, but i got a little (big) problem.

 

My oblivion won't start. even Before the entire screen has gotten black, windows message comes: 'oblivion has stopped working.. blabla, close program...'

I do have quite a few mods, downloaded some 10 - 15 today / yesterday.

If someone needs a list, please say

BUT, even if I only tick OBLIVION (master file) in data files, same happens..

 

What do I do. Do I have to Re-install?? I hope not...

 

Thanx...

[dezdimona]

what mods did you DL?

xp or vista?

[IAvalonI]

Vista..

 

List of mods: ( 1st 3 is goty edition)

 

Oblivion (master)

SI

KOTN

 

Lost spires

Kvatch rebuilt

jaysus vampire mod

Clock of cirodiil

horse commands

housemarkers

impeREAL city

Illumination within

life (which changed a lot of things to German, and didn't seem to add any NPC / children / animals at all WTF)

Natural environements

Quest award leveling

Realistic Flora

Recharge spell (easy)

 

now the ones I loaded today, and haven't played yet

 

advanced water

axebane's hunter mod

chase camera

cheydinhall pets

lighter ingredients (+app)

life (fully translated version)

no psychic guard

bananasplit Skingrad (translated)

bank of cyrodiil

cats / rats

extended skingrad

get wet

dual wield complete

landmarks (on map)

lightning during storms

More skingrad

 

So it'll have to be one of these above...

Do you think it might be due to Skingrad mods = (Bananasplit / extended / more)

[bben46]

It's possible that the multiple Skingrad mods are causing the problem. But usually what you see when you have mixed mods is things missing in the scenery.

 

Are you running OBSE? OBMM?

 

If you have a mod that requires OBSE, and it is not started first, it will crash the game on start. But disabling that mod should allow it to start again. Some mods require that another mod or esm (master file) be present and loaded before it or they crash on start.

 

Using OBMM, you can get the actual load order and change it as needed. It also includes a function to automatically launch OBSE, if it is present, from OBMM.

[IAvalonI]

Yes, I have both,, but don't use either...

 

OBMM says i can't run without 'administator' (which I am) (stupid vista :wallbash: )

Also have OBSE, don't know what to do wiv it tho, everything had worked fine before..

 

Thing is, game doesn't even start with only Oblivion master file (of SI + KOTN +O which is how i bought it..)

 

Should I uninstall?

But then, how do I know which of my mods not to load again??

 

Thanx

[dezdimona]

if you have a mod that requires OBSE,just install OBSE,double clicking on its DL should allow you to install it,also allow for desktop icon.Oblivion should be started from OBSE if you have mods that require it.

[IAvalonI]

I tried starting it with OBSE, but it still doesn't work..

 

Any other ideas?

[dezdimona]

I'm an XP user,try asking myrmaad,she's up on vista and Oblivion problems.

[IAvalonI]

:wallbash: I don't get it...

 

I have now fully (as described here, in the pinned unintsall topic) un installed oblivion, everything to do with oblivion, and deleted all my mods.

Then I installed again, in a new separate custom folder...

 

Still don't work.

 

BTW, in the launcher tech support, it said that if error messages appear when starting the game (which is my prob.)

I then did as I was told (explore DVD, open DXREDIST, +update DXSETUP) and no difference..

 

I'm desperate, i have no idea what to do..

Game is 2 months old, and I can't believe I'd have to buy it again :verymad: Any ideas please?

[bben46]

When you uninstall Oblivion it doesn't really uninstall everything. Then when you start adding mods before you have started the game, some things may not get initialized properly. Here is my recommended procedure for uninstalling and reinstalling.

 

It does not remove your mods, save games or Oblivion.ini or the entries that the original installation of Oblivion placed in your Windows registry. It also does not remove helper programs such as OBSE, OBMM, Wrye Bash, The construction set or any other programs you have installed in the \Oblivion folder or the save game folder. I recommend that you go ahead and delete them, then re download and install the latest version of them again later. After you have verified that the game works.

 

I would appreciate any feedback on this as it is something I expect to post often and I hate to give bogus or useless information.

 

Uninstalling Oblivion

 

My instructions assume you are using Windows XP and have installed Oblivion into the default location. If you are using Vista or Linux, the file locations may be different, however, the procedure will be thae same.

 

For a full reinstall, first you can try to preserve your mods and save games. I recommend that you save them in a new folder with a new name. Create the new folder in C:\Program files\Bethesda Softeworks. Name it Old Files. So it will be C:\Program Files\Bethesda softworks\Old files.

 

Then copy the data folder where your mods are to the new folder - do not erase them, copy them. And in the new folder, rename the \data folder to \olddata. Then copy and rename the folder that has your saved games and Oblivion.ini, C:\documents and settings\your user name\my documents\My Games\oblivion to something like \My games\Old Oblivion - this saves your saved games and the oblivion.ini file.

 

Then, using the original CD, NOT the Launcher on your Hard drive. Select uninstall.

 

After it completes the uninstall, reboot your computer - this is important as it allows Windows to remove some references to the original Oblivion.

 

This would be the time to erase all of the helper programs you have in the \Oblivion folder. Such as OBMM, OBSE and some others. The simplest way is to delete the folder completely. The new install will re create the folder for you along with a fresh oblivion.ini and when you start the game and make a save, a new save folder and new \data folder.

 

This would also be a good time to do a file clean up.

 

To remove the registry entries that were left behind. There are several good programs for removing left behind entries. The one I use is ccleaner. Be sure to reboot before using it, and again after. It is free and available here: http://majorgeeks.com/download4191.html

 

Now that everything is cleaned up, do a full defrag on your hard drive to leave a large uncluttered area to reinstall to. This prevents your game from installing in a fragmented way, with parts scattered all over the drive. It also will speed up the install a little.

 

 

 

Now to Reinstall.

 

Again using the original CD, install Oblivion.

 

NOTE: If you are using Vista, DO NOT install to the default directory. Instead make a new directory I recommend C:\Games. Install Oblivion there to avoid the hassle with Vista UAC blocking mods.

 

Before adding any mods, patches, helper programs, Shivering Isles or anything else, start the game and make a save. This initializes some stuff that needs to be initialized.

 

If you are using the Game of the Year version of Oblivion you should not need any patches, skip the patching part.

 

Now, If you DO NOT use Shivering Isles, patch the game using ONLY the latest Oblivion patch. All of the stuff from the earlier patches is included.

 

Be sure you use the proper language patch. If you use the wrong one it may work, but with a strange mixture of languages. (Germanglish?) Or it may crash.

 

NOTE: there are two English Patches UK & US and they are different. (Some people actually think we speak the same language) Use the one that matches your original disk.

 

If you use Shivering Isles, Install it now. DO NOT install the Oblivion patch. Install Shivering Isles, then ONLY the latest Shivering Isles patch. All of the updates for Oblivion are included. There is only one Shivering Isles patch for both US & UK English (Maybe sometimes we do speak the same language.)

 

Now, again start the game, make sure it looks right, move around a little to test it, and make a save. Test to be sure everything is working right (No purple objects or yellow blocks)

 

Before adding any mods, back up both your \data folder and the save game folder. Copy them, don't move or rename them, to a different folder - such as \Bethesda\Clean Oblivion\data and \Bethesda\clean Oblivion\saves. Note that this is a different folder than the one used for your old data and saves.

 

Note, Your Oblivion.ini file is in the same folder, but separate from, the save game folder.

 

Now, if you want to try to run with your old mods, first rename the original folders. The \data folder to \newdata and the \oldata back to \data. this restores all of your mods. You should now have 2 data folders \data, and \newdata in your \oblivion folder

 

To restore your original saves and ini file, rename the new My Games\Oblivion to something like \New Oblivion. and the \Old oblivion to \oblivion - this restores all of your saved games and your original Oblivion.ini file.

 

DO NOT erase the files you renamed. These are your backup files in case the original mods do not work or give you the same problem.

 

If you have the same problem, it is most likely caused by a mod. However, you now have a clean install to fall back on. You can You can COPY (NOT move or rename) the backup files back to what they were and be back to your clean install without having to reinstall again.

 

Sounds like lots of work, but you will have a clean install and a back up clean install when you are finished.

 

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