AMWE - I don't know.

[jjb54]

I went through the P.I.T.A. protocol and had to start the game over, in that I found 1 series of mods were creating a lot of CTD.

 

Okay - GONE. Clean new game and it was working great until I finished ( I fought the law ) and wanted to return to Goodsprings and have constant CTD even trying to get close to it.

 

I am up to several saves and it was just crazy!

 

My Mod List and Load Order:

 

 

 

0 0 FalloutNV.esm

1 1 DeadMoney.esm

2 2 HonestHearts.esm

3 3 OldWorldBlues.esm

4 4 LonesomeRoad.esm

5 5 GunRunnersArsenal.esm

6 6 ClassicPack.esm

7 7 MercenaryPack.esm

8 8 TribalPack.esm

9 9 CaravanPack.esm

10 a YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

11 b SomeguySeries.esm

12 c Sortomatic.esm

13 d FreesideOpen.esm

14 e Weapon Mod Expansion.esm

15 f WME - GRA.esm

16 10 WME - DLCs.esm

17 11 Momod.esm

18 12 Abandoned Complex.esm

19 13 Folly of the Old World.esm

20 14 Vault11Survivor.esp

21 15 Companion Core.esm

22 16 RobCo Certified.esm

23 17 Transcendence.esm

24 18 ZionTrail.esm

25 19 Project Nevada - Core.esm

26 1a Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

27 1b Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

28 1c Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

29 1d Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

30 1e Finality.esm

31 1f More Perks.esm

32 20 JIP Selective-Fire.esm

33 21 TOUTUlyssesR.esm

34 22 YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

35 23 Unofficial Patch NVSE.esp

36 24 Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

37 25 LRNoRepLoss.esp

38 26 Advance Robotics Expert.esp

39 27 TunnelerHideRecipes.esp

40 28 TrueHometownHero.esp

41 29 Removable Dead Money Collar.esp

42 2a Vurt's WFO.esp

43 2b The Wasteland Recycler-All (Plus Chem Weights).esp

44 2c Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

45 2d FreesideOpenPatch.esp

46 2e Harvestable Cave Fungus.esp

47 2f Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

48 30 The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

49 31 RobCo Certified Friendly Hit Fixer.esp

50 32 ScrapMetalRecipes.esp

51 33 XFO - E725- 6 Perks Per Level.esp

52 34 JIP Companions Command & Control.esp

53 35 Clarity - Dark Nights.esp

54 36 pipboyx6.esp

55 37 ChameleonDeathclaw.esp

56 38 Courier 6 Goodsprings Compound.esp

57 39 EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

58 3a JSawyer Ultimate.esp

59 3b Momodlorefriendly.esp

60 3c Respawning Deathclaws.esp

61 3d More Perks Update.esp

62 3e NVNovacApartament.esp

63 3f MorePerksFixed.esp

64 40 BoSUnforgotten.esp

65 41 WeaponModsExpanded.esp

66 42 TfaT2.esp

67 43 WME - GRA - Complete.esp

68 44 RasRepair.esp

69 45 WMX-DLCMerged.esp

70 46 WME - GRA - All Weapons.esp

71 47 Weapon Mod Expansion.esp

72 48 WME - GRA - Just Guns.esp

73 49 wolfhornmod1-2.esp

74 4a Courier 6 Novac Compound.esp

75 4b Unofficial Patch Plus.esp

76 4c ZionTrail-NV.esp

77 4d EndlessStairs1.esp

78 4e CCO - Ulysses Companion.esp

79 4f Courier 6 Sierra Madre Safehouse.esp

80 50 Courier 6 Hopeville Safehouse.esp

81 51 spread reduction.esp

82 52 WME - DLCs Arenovalis.esp

83 53 WME - DLCs.esp

84 54 Courier 6 Zion Safehouse.esp

85 55 FalloutNVCheatTerminal.esp

86 56 FarmingBobNVR.esp

87 57 LFox Bottle That Water.esp

88 58 LFox Pip-Boy Stealth Boy Addon.esp

89 59 Fallout New Vegas- Crafting Improved.esp

90 5a Nipton Fires Extinguished.esp

91 5b ncrandlegionpatrols.esp

92 5c Player Vertibird.esp

93 5d NewVegasBounties.esp

94 5e NewVegasBountiesII.esp

95 5f NewVegasBountiesII Fixes - DLCs.esp

96 60 TheInheritance.esp

97 61 NewVegasBountiesIII.esp

98 62 Snow Globe Quest.esp

99 63 return_deadmoney.esp

100 64 WME - GRA - Unique Integration.esp

101 65 LonesomeRoadEDE.esp

102 66 CountryRoads.esp

103 67 WME - GRA - Vendor Reform.esp

104 68 WME - GRA - Weapon Integration.esp

105 69 searchforcouriers.esp

106 6a FollowerUlyssesPatch.esp

107 6b CAGE 1.9.3.2.esp

108 6c WME - GRA - Arenovalis.esp

109 6d ImprovedGrenadeLaunchers.esp

110 6e WMX-POPMerged.esp

111 6f BetterHarvesting.esp

112 70 New Vegas Extended Crafting.esp

113 71 JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp

114 72 Roberts_NewVegas.esp

115 73 DALCO Junk-O-Matic NV.esp

116 74 DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp

117 75 Bountiful Harvest.esp

118 76 MoreCreatureMeat.esp

119 77 MonsterModLorefriendlyDLC.esp

120 78 DALCO MISC Recycling Recipes.esp

Any thoughts would be much appreciated. :smile:

[dubiousintent]

Please see the 'Common Game Problems' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article.

 

Specifically: I see both WME and WMX, which try to do the same thing and conflict. Choose one or the other. (Not likely to be the direct cause of your specific problem, but if you have the "Cheat Chest" from WMX installed note it is very script heavy upon entry to the GS cell and might be contributing.) As GS is the starting point of the game, many mods initialize there and cause problems when they all fire off at once upon returning to that cell.

 

I also note you have both "All DLC" and some specific DLC versions of mod optional files installed. If you have an "All DLC" version then you do not need a specific DLC file as well (unless the install instructions specifically say so). As noted in the "Common Problems" entry, the POP DLC are not considered "true Expansions" and are not included in "All DLC" packages (treated as "master files") by most mod authors.

 

* If you have more than one mod that makes any change to the same record or set of records in the vanilla game (such as WME/WMX), then you really need to use a "Merge Patch File" with that collection of mods. Please see the 'Third Rule: The Rule of One' and 'Merge Patch File' sections of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article. When in doubt, create a "Merge Patch" file for your overall "load order" anyway.

 

FYI: The NV Bounties series is well worth playing, but can be quite script heavy. I found it worked just fine to load the NVB I, II, III, etc. packages as needed instead of all at once.

-Dubious-

Edited May 16, 2020 by dubiousintent

[jjb54]

Thanks for you post.

 

 

I have a note here that should alert players of any game to be aware of:

 

 

FYI: The NV Bounties series is well worth playing, but can be quite script heavy. I found it worked just fine to load the NVB I, II, III, etc. packages as needed instead of all at once.

 

NEVER INSTALL A MOD AFTER A GAME HAS BEEN STARTED, * even updates.

 

Just too many times things can and often do go wrong. Like ENB's and such, it might have worked for you .... but there is never a 100% or even 60% chance problems cannot happen. As everyone's computer and mods are different. As the odds are more likely - but not always - you will have to start over your game, depending on the update and such.

 

Also, I did find the issue. :ninja:

 

In restarting I found a Mod YUP and JIP had been updated .... but in being overly tired, out of coffee and at AMWE's o_O I did forget 1 step in my P.I.T.A. Protocols. Double check mod dependencies and JSawyer's mod is depended on YUP and JIP, which had both been UPDATED and JSawyer's had not been updated to fix the problem. :confused:

 

* YES this was the issue, removing it fixed it with no issues. :cool:

 

I did post the updates and issues on the JS mod page and hopefully it will be updates, unless he's moved on?

 

Thanks again.