Soft crashing when trying to load saves in an exterior worldspace

[Gambit77]

I started a new game today, and have been having lots of CTDs. I don't really see anything obvious in the logs. And whenever I try to load a save game from an outside worldspace I crash, usually a soft freeze, occasionally a CTD. Since I didn't really see anything suspicious in the logs I've tried toning back on texture mods some by going with lower resolution options when available. I don't mess with UGrids, got it set to vanilla 5.

 

here's an example of a log when trying to load a save.

 

[01/01/2013 - 02:42:53PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[01/01/2013 - 02:42:53PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 2000.000000ms)
[01/01/2013 - 02:42:53PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[01/01/2013 - 02:42:57PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1scwispwallscript", missing file?
[01/01/2013 - 02:42:57PM] Cannot open store for class "isilStingGlow", missing file?
[01/01/2013 - 02:42:57PM] Cannot open store for class "ARTH_PF__0302C7B7", missing file?
[01/01/2013 - 02:42:57PM] Error: Unable to bind script ARTH_PF__0302C7B7 to  (6702C7B7) because their base types do not match
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:06PM] Error: Property DialogueFollower on script JFADFollowerAliasScript attached to alias Follower on quest JFADDialogueFollower (84010777) cannot be bound because JFADDialogueFollower (84010777) is not the right type
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:06PM] warning: Property aaemviljaclothfaction on script PF_AAMViljaPlayFlute_0202E3F8 attached to  (7D02E3F8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:06PM] warning: Property SnowjawImperialScout01 on script AKSS15 attached to  (61002E95) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:06PM] warning: Property Alias_MarriageCustomHome on script QF_RelationshipMarriageFIN_00021382 attached to RelationshipMarriageFIN (00021382) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:06PM] warning: Property pPlayerFollowerCount on script JFADAtvirFollowerScript attached to JFADDialogueStandardHomeOrders (8400A0A4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:06PM] warning: Property Alias_SolitudeBackDoor on script QF_HousePurchase_000A7B33 attached to HousePurchase (000A7B33) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:06PM] warning: Property HircinesRingPower on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:06PM] warning: Property pPlayerFollowerCount on script JFADAtvirFollowerScript attached to JFADAngryAtvir (8400B0ED) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:07PM] Error: Property kuASATUninstallMessage on script kuASATQS attached to kuASATQ (2E000800) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (2E000830) is not the right type
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:07PM] VM is freezing...
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:07PM] VM is frozen
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:07PM] Reverting game...
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:07PM] Error: Unable to bind script ARTH_PF__0302C7B7 to  (6702C7B7) because their base types do not match
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:07PM] warning: Property SnowjawImperialScout01 on script AKSS15 attached to  (61002E95) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:07PM] warning: Property Alias_MarriageCustomHome on script QF_RelationshipMarriageFIN_00021382 attached to RelationshipMarriageFIN (00021382) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:07PM] warning: Property pPlayerFollowerCount on script JFADAtvirFollowerScript attached to JFADDialogueStandardHomeOrders (8400A0A4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:07PM] warning: Property Alias_SolitudeBackDoor on script QF_HousePurchase_000A7B33 attached to HousePurchase (000A7B33) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:07PM] warning: Property HircinesRingPower on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:07PM] warning: Property pPlayerFollowerCount on script JFADAtvirFollowerScript attached to JFADAngryAtvir (8400B0ED) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:07PM] Error: Property DialogueFollower on script JFADFollowerAliasScript attached to alias Follower on quest JFADDialogueFollower (84010777) cannot be bound because JFADDialogueFollower (84010777) is not the right type
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:07PM] Error: Property kuASATUninstallMessage on script kuASATQS attached to kuASATQ (2E000800) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (2E000830) is not the right type
[01/01/2013 - 02:43:07PM] warning: Property aaemviljaclothfaction on script PF_AAMViljaPlayFlute_0202E3F8 attached to  (7D02E3F8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

 

 

Here is my mod list. I use BOSS to order it and everything has been cleaned with TES5Edit.

 

 

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

JSwords.esm

LevelersTower.esm

SPIKE.esm

UndergroundBathhouse.esm

OdemsAdvCraft.esm

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

HighResTexturePackFix.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Delphine Makeover.esp

Rainbows.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

MintyLightningMod.esp

MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

Weapons and Armor fixes.esp

Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp

Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp

ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle.esp

ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp

Immersive Battles.esp

Immersive Brigands.esp

Immersive Dawnguard.esp

Immersive Patrols.esp

Immersive Travelers.esp

Immersive Werewolves.esp

JK Crafting Breakdown.esp

navetsea female face preset.esp

Perks Unbound - Helmless Warrior.esp

Perks Unbound - Dawnguard.esp

SabreFurBag.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp

kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp

amk Border Lace Lingerie.esp

AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp

backpackfrankdema.esp

BlackSacramentArmor.esp

BloodWitchArmor.esp

calyps-investigator.esp

Cloaks.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

DHuntress.esp

DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp

DreamBurrowsRegalAssassin.esp

DreamBurrowsSageOutfit.esp

Earrings Set1.esp

Ebony Mage Armor.esp

ElvenWeaponryFasterArrows100%.esp

Evil MasterMind Armor.esp

Field Mage Outfit.esp

FS_EveningStar.esp

Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp

Glass Mage Armor Outlander Gold.esp

Glass Mage Armor Ashlander Silver.esp

Glass Mage Armor Skyrim Vanilla.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Insanity's Dragonbane.esp

isilNarsil.esp

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp

LadyKdCirclets.esp

Knight Of Thorns Armor.esp

LeftHandRings.esp

LordOfWar_TW2.esp

LustmordVampireArmor.esp

MashupUNP.esp

Nordic Adventurer's Armor.esp

OdemsOnihime.esp

RazorPlateArmorMask.esp

Ritual Armor of Boethiah.esp

ScoutArmor.esp

SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp

skyforgedShields.esp

TH3WICK3D1-BlueStripesEliteArmor.esp

ThaidensTreasure.esp

TrissArmorRetextured.esp

UNP Jewelry Variants V-2.esp

zz_GD_DB_RAHoods.esp

zz_GDRAHoods.esp

Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

DeadlyDragons_Addon.esp

Ancient Knowledge Armour.esp

Beautiful Riften.esp

Beautiful Whiterun.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

RealisticWhiterun.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

Masters of Death.esp

ArrowInTheEverywhere_Ultra.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

OpenFaceHelmets.esp

AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

ShiverTwitch's True Destruction Wall.esp

Duel - Combat Realism.esp

The Dance of Death.esp

ABT - Loot Arrows +100%.esp

ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +100%.esp

ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +100%.esp

ABT - Merchants Arrows +100%.esp

ABT - Progressive Damage (with Nord Hero Arrow).esp

ABT - Recover +50% Arrows and Bolts.esp

Beards.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp

HothFollower.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp

My Home Is Your Home.esp

Angelina Jolie UNP.esp

Atvir.esp

Brothers.esp

CompanionValfar.esp

Dova's Angels - Sylgja - V5.esp

Dova's Angels - Saadia - V5.esp

Dova's Angels - Mjoll - V5.esp

Dova's Angels - Lydia - V5.esp

Dova's Angels - Jordis - V5.esp

Dova's Angels - Iona - V5.esp

Dova's Angels - Uthgerd - V5.esp

JessicaAlba.esp

nu_female_followers.esp

Thaiden.esp

BFFAnimalCompanions.esp

CerwidenCompanion.esp

moveitLWT.esp

Spousetocustomhome.esp

zzz_Jenassa_MAKEOVER_by83Willow.esp

Companionsguildrevamp.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

WATER.esp

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

ASIS-Dependency.esp

ASIS.esp

 

 

I'm using the plug-in version of ASIS.

 

I'm running a i7 2600K (No OC), GTX 680 4GB, and have 16GB ram, so I don't think it's a hardware shortcoming. If anyone sees what could be the issue some advice would be great.

[stars2heaven]

This game, as well as it's predecessors, is notorious for having difficulty loading out door saves. It's generally advised to try to make your saves indoors if you can. I find that if I have to load an out-door save, if I load an indoor save first my game has an easier time with it.

 

Have you tried just loading indoor saves or loading an indoor save first and then trying to load the exterior save?

[Gambit77]

Yeah after searching the forum for many hours yesterday I did find the trick to load an indoor save, go outside, and then load the outdoor save. That did work for me in the one instance I tested. So thanks for replying with the tip Star.

 

If anyone sees anything in my load order that could be the reason for the outdoor instability let me know.

 

Does anybody think it might just be ASIS. Some of the advice I came across was that additions to the worldspace and increased spawns are major culprits in outdoor areas CTDs. I'm only using Leveler's tower atm as far as worldspace additions, and I only added that this time to rebuild a character I lost in a corrupt savegame, although it is an awesome mod. So I'm wondering if the crashes are mainly related to the increased spawns from ASIS. If anyone has some opinions chime in.

Edited January 2, 2013 by Gambit77

[stars2heaven]

Well I'm not familiar with all of your mods, and I don't see anything obviously wrong in the load order. Leveled lists can cause issues if there are conflicts or a problem within the mod. If you have several mods that effect leveled lists you should have a bashed patch. It could even resolve some CTDs if the conflicts are a problem. You will also be able to reduce your mod list a bit since I see you have some mods that can be simply merged into the patch. If you have the higher res version of deadly spell impacts you might try reducing to a lower res version. With the onset of battle, the sudden casting of a spell, and the game trying to instantly load potentially several high res decals, the game could freeze or CTD.

 

Other than that, thats all I can see. Your log looks pristine for that many mods. I'd say your problem likely rests within a conflict, a specific mod, or too much stress on your system (which could be caused by one or more mods or your ini settings or a combination of all those things).

[Gambit77]

Yeah, I already switched to a lower res version of Deadly Spell impacts, although the crashes were rarely coinciding with actual combat. As far as textures I've got HD all over the place. Bethesda HD, Skyrim HD, Serious HD retexture landscapes, Vurt's Flora overhaul, Project Parallax, Lush grass and trees, Better Males, Navatsea Body textures, Women of Skyrim, Etheral Elven Overhaul, Cabal's armor textures.

I figured with a GTX 680 4GB I'd be fine running lots of 2K textures. I ran most of these same textures with a GTX 560ti 1GB. Back then I assumed crashes and freezes were me running out of vram. Now, I just don't know. I'm looking at a log from just a little bit ago where I CTD after a few minutes of playing running down the path towards riverwood from the helgen cave and I can see that there is nothing in it immediately prior to the crash because the last entries are from Kuertee's autosave mod and I crashed about 30-45 seconds after the last time it saved.

 

 

[01/02/2013 - 12:05:49PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:49PM] Update budget: 800.000000ms (Extra 

tasklet budget: 800.000000ms, Load screen budget: 2000.000000ms)
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:49PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 

512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:54PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1scwispwallscript", missing 

file?
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:55PM] Cannot open store for class "isilStingGlow", missing file?
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] 

Cannot open store for class "ARTH_PF__0302C7B7", missing file?
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] Error: Unable to bind 

script ARTH_PF__0302C7B7 to  (6702C7B7) because their base types do not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] Cannot open 

store for class "PF__02001829", missing file?
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__02001829 to 

(69001829) because their base types do not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] Cannot open store for class 

"PF__020012C5", missing file?
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__020012C5 to  (690012C5) 

because their base types do not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] Cannot open store for class "PF__02001831", missing 

file?
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__02001831 to  (69001831) because their base types do 

not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] Cannot open store for class "PF__02001830", missing file?
[01/02/2013 - 

12:05:56PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__02001830 to  (69001830) because their base types do not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] Cannot open store for class "PF__0200182E", missing file?
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] Error: 

Unable to bind script PF__0200182E to  (6900182E) because their base types do not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] 

Cannot open store for class "PF__0200182B", missing file?
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] Error: Unable to bind script 

PF__0200182B to  (6900182B) because their base types do not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] Cannot open store for 

class "PF__0200182C", missing file?
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__0200182C to  

(6900182C) because their base types do not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] Cannot open store for class 

"PF__0200182F", missing file?
[01/02/2013 - 12:05:56PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__0200182F to  (6900182F) 

because their base types do not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] Error: Property DialogueFollower on script 

JFADFollowerAliasScript attached to alias Follower on quest JFADDialogueFollower (85010777) cannot be bound because 

JFADDialogueFollower (85010777) is not the right type
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] warning: Property 

SnowjawImperialScout01 on script AKSS15 attached to  (61002E95) cannot be initialized because the script no longer 

contains that property
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] warning: Property Alias_MarriageCustomHome on script 

QF_RelationshipMarriageFIN_00021382 attached to RelationshipMarriageFIN (00021382) cannot be initialized because 

the script no longer contains that property
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] warning: Property pPlayerFollowerCount on 

script JFADAtvirFollowerScript attached to JFADDialogueStandardHomeOrders (8500A0A4) cannot be initialized because 

the script no longer contains that property
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] warning: Property Alias_SolitudeBackDoor on 

script QF_HousePurchase_000A7B33 attached to HousePurchase (000A7B33) cannot be initialized because the script no 

longer contains that property
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] warning: Property HircinesRingPower on script 

companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains 

that property
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] Error: Property kuASATUninstallMessage on script kuASATQS attached to 

kuASATQ (2E000800) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (2E000830) is not the right type
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] 

warning: Property pPlayerFollowerCount on script JFADAtvirFollowerScript attached to JFADAngryAtvir (8500B0ED) 

cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] warning: 

Property aaemviljaclothfaction on script PF_AAMViljaPlayFlute_0202E3F8 attached to  (7E02E3F8) cannot be 

initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] VM is freezing...
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] VM is frozen
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] Reverting game...
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] Error: 

Unable to bind script PF__0200182C to  (6900182C) because their base types do not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] 

Error: Unable to bind script PF__0200182F to  (6900182F) because their base types do not match
[01/02/2013 - 

12:06:42PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__0200182E to  (6900182E) because their base types do not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__02001829 to  (69001829) because their base types do not 

match
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__02001831 to  (69001831) because their base types do 

not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__02001830 to  (69001830) because their base 

types do not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__0200182B to  (6900182B) because their 

base types do not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__020012C5 to  (690012C5) because 

their base types do not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] Error: Unable to bind script ARTH_PF__0302C7B7 to  

(6702C7B7) because their base types do not match
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] warning: Property SnowjawImperialScout01 

on script AKSS15 attached to  (61002E95) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] warning: Property Alias_MarriageCustomHome on script QF_RelationshipMarriageFIN_00021382 

attached to RelationshipMarriageFIN (00021382) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that 

property
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] warning: Property pPlayerFollowerCount on script JFADAtvirFollowerScript attached 

to JFADDialogueStandardHomeOrders (8500A0A4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that 

property
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] warning: Property Alias_SolitudeBackDoor on script QF_HousePurchase_000A7B33 

attached to HousePurchase (000A7B33) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] warning: Property HircinesRingPower on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to 

C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] 

Error: Property DialogueFollower on script JFADFollowerAliasScript attached to alias Follower on quest 

JFADDialogueFollower (85010777) cannot be bound because JFADDialogueFollower (85010777) is not the right type
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:42PM] warning: Property aaemviljaclothfaction on script PF_AAMViljaPlayFlute_0202E3F8 attached 

to  (7E02E3F8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:43PM] 

warning: Property pPlayerFollowerCount on script JFADAtvirFollowerScript attached to JFADAngryAtvir (8500B0ED) 

cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/02/2013 - 12:06:43PM] Error: Property 

kuASATUninstallMessage on script kuASATQS attached to kuASATQ (2E000800) cannot be bound because <NULL form> 

(2E000830) is not the right type
[01/02/2013 - 12:07:06PM] Loading game...
[01/02/2013 - 12:07:06PM] VM is 

thawing...
[01/02/2013 - 12:07:06PM] Mujuro: Ceri mod initialization
[01/02/2013 - 12:07:06PM] Mujuro: User save 

corresponds with Ceri mod version
[01/02/2013 - 12:07:06PM] Mujuro: Checking for interaction mods 

===================== IGNORE errors below relating to mods not found ====================
[01/02/2013 - 12:07:06PM] 

Mujuro: Finished check for interaction mods ================ IGNORE errors above relating to mods not found 

====================
[01/02/2013 - 12:07:06PM] !kuASATQS.initGameLoaded loaded v0.619000
[01/02/2013 - 12:08:13PM] VM 

is freezing...
[01/02/2013 - 12:08:13PM] VM is frozen
[01/02/2013 - 12:08:14PM] Saving game...
[01/02/2013 - 

12:08:14PM] VM is thawing...
[01/02/2013 - 12:09:40PM] VM is freezing...
[01/02/2013 - 12:09:40PM] VM is frozen
[01/02/2013 - 12:09:41PM] Saving game...
[01/02/2013 - 12:09:41PM] VM is thawing...
[01/02/2013 - 12:10:47PM] VM is 

freezing...
[01/02/2013 - 12:10:47PM] VM is frozen
[01/02/2013 - 12:10:47PM] Saving game...
[01/02/2013 - 12:10:48PM] 

VM is thawing...

 

 

It can be so frustrating. I've done some serious mod culling trying to make my build stable and I just can't seem to get it there. I got rid of most mods that had scripting involved just because I would equate a Crash with them because they were the last thing in the log, but now the CTDs seem to have no rhyme or reason, so it makes me question whether mods I removed where even ever an issue.

 

Here's my ini, let me know if you see anything in there that shouldn't be, or if there's any tweaks you'd recommend.

 

 

 

[Display]

sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680"

bAllowscreenshot=1

fDecalLifetime=900.0000

[Grass]

b30GrassVS=0

[Water]

bReflectLODObjects=1

bReflectLODLand=1

bReflectSky=1

bReflectLODTrees=1

[General]

sLanguage=ENGLISH

bDisableGearedUp=0

fMasterFilePreLoadMB=256.0000

iPreloadSizeLimit=528435456

iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=4000000000

[Archive]

sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, HighResTexturePack01.bsa, HighResTexturePack02.bsa, HighResTexturePackFix.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa

sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

[Actor]

fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

[Combat]

fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7

f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7

[Papyrus]

fUpdateBudgetMS=800

fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=800

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000

bEnableLogging=1

bEnableTrace=1

bLoadDebugInformation = 1

[saveGame]

iAutoSaveCount=10

fAutosaveEveryXMins=60.0000

 

 

 

and my Skyrimprefs.ini

 

 

[Display]

iTexMipMapSkip=0

bFXAAEnabled=0

fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=10000000.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=10000000.0000

fSpecularLODStartFade=2000.0000

fLightLODStartFade=3500.0000

fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=10000000.0000

iShadowMapResolution=4096

fShadowBiasScale=0.1500

iShadowMaskQuarter=4

iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3

fShadowDistance=8000.0000

iMaxDecalsPerFrame=100

iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=25

iAdapter=0

iSize W=1228

iSize H=690

iMultiSample=0

iMaxAnisotropy=16

iPresentInterval=1

bFull Screen=1

sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680"

fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000

bFloatPointRenderTarget=1

fGamma=1.0400

iShadowFilter=3

fDecalLOD2=1500.0000

fDecalLOD1=1000.0000

fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000

iTexMipMapMinimum=0

bTransparencyMultisampling=0

iWaterMultiSamples=0

iShadowMode=3

bTreesReceiveShadows=1

bDrawLandShadows=1

bDrawShadows=1

fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000

fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000

fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000

fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000

iScreenShotIndex=332

bShadowMaskZPrepass=0

bMainZPrepass=0

bShadowsOnGrass=1

bDeferredShadows=1

[imagespace]

iRadialBlurLevel=2

bDoDepthOfField=1

[LOD]

fLODFadeOutMultActors=15.0000

fLODFadeOutMultItems=15.0000

fLODFadeOutMultObjects=15.0000

fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000

[Grass]

fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000.0000

b30GrassVS=0

fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000

fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=400.0000

[Decals]

bDecals=1

bSkinnedDecals=1

uMaxDecals=1000

uMaxSkinDecals=100

uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=60

[TerrainManager]

fTreeLoadDistance=75000.0000

fBlockMaximumDistance=250000.0000

fBlockLevel1Distance=70000.0000

fBlockLevel0Distance=35000.0000

fSplitDistanceMult=1.5000

bShowLODInEditor=0

[blurShaderHDR]

bDoHighDynamicRange=1

[blurShader]

bUseBlurShader=0

[Launcher]

bShowAllResolutions=1

uLastAspectRatio=3

bEnableFileSelection=1

[Water]

iWaterReflectHeight=512

iWaterReflectWidth=512

bUseWaterDisplacements=1

bUseWaterRefractions=1

bUseWaterReflections=1

bUseWaterDepth=1

[MAIN]

fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000

bGamepadEnable=1

bCrosshairEnabled=1

fHUDOpacity=1.0000

bSaveOnPause=0

bSaveOnTravel=0

bSaveOnWait=0

bSaveOnRest=0

[interface]

fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000

bDialogueSubtitles=0

bGeneralSubtitles=0

bShowCompass=1

[GamePlay]

bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1

bShowQuestMarkers=1

iDifficulty=2

[Controls]

fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125

fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0750

bAlwaysRunByDefault=1

bInvertYValues=0

bGamePadRumble=0

bUseKinect=0

[Particles]

iMaxDesired=750

[saveGame]

fAutosaveEveryXMins=60.0000

[AudioMenu]

fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000

fVal7=1.0000

uID7=0

fVal6=1.0000

uID6=0

fVal5=1.0000

uID5=0

fVal4=1.0000

uID4=0

fVal3=0.1500

uID3=466532

fVal2=1.0000

uID2=554685

fVal1=0.6000

uID1=1007612

fVal0=0.4500

uID0=94881

[Clouds]

fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000

fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000

fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000

fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000

[General]

iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1

bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0

bDisableGearedUp=0

[Trees]

bRenderSkinnedTrees=1

uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=40

 

 

Edited January 2, 2013 by Gambit77

[stars2heaven]

I don't think you have an issue with too many HD textures, but it's possible. In anycase, you have a better card than me and I have hi res textures everywhere too and no instability problems. Try this, make backups of your ini (both skyrim.ini and skyrimprefs.ini) and play with completely vanilla ini and try to reproduce those crashes. I had the exact same trouble in the exact same area that you mentioned a while back and it turned out to be an ini setting (though I am still uncertain exactly which setting it was). Bad ini setting can easily produce this sort of behavior and make it look like it's a mods fault. If you have made changes to your graphics setting through the nvidia control panel or through nvidia inspector try setting them back to normal as well for this test. I have a hunch your problem is in either the ini or your graphics cards settings. If not, then the problem is in a mod somewhere, and you will simply have to find which one the old fashioned way.

[Gambit77]

It looks like maybe my ini was the issue, although I never did much ini tweaking in the past. So I'm not sure what It could have been.

Hopefully it's not bDisableGearedUp=0, as that is the only ini tweak I can specifically recall making, and I've put it back in and still am not crashing in that one spot. I also went back to road east out of falkreath which was giving me the same problems the other day and it worked there to.

Thanks for the help Star. "knocks on wood" It looks like your advice may have fixed my stability issues. Time to test to see if I can actually sit down and play for a while crash free.

Edited January 2, 2013 by Gambit77