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Several game crashes and freezes on main menu and loading screen.


smturret

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I have 3 seperate problems to be exact.
First one is a crash to desktop randomly when im playing so i dont know what triggers it exactly, there is a pop-up that says "ran out of memory" (i have 4GB patcher, New Vegas Anti Crash, New Vegas Stutter Remover and NVSE installed)
I did some googling first and found someone having a similar problem as me and he also used NMCs texture pack, i was using the large version. I downgraded to medium, still would crash. Then downgrade to the small pack, also didnt fix it. And then i just removed the Texture pack entirely and that fixed it. I can live with this but would still like to know if there is a fix to it.
The second problem is an infinite loading screen bug. Usually this happens when i boot up the game and load my save from the main menu. I also did some googling and another "fix" was to start up a new game and then load the save from there, this seem to mostly work but i still the infinite loading screen bug even with using that method from time to time.
I also get this bug when normally playing the game by going through a door or fast-travelling. I have to completely restart my pc everytime this happens because task manager wont pop up.
The last problem is when the game freezes at the main menu, i have no idea what triggers this and it seems to be random, i just have to pray that whenever i boot up the game it will continue as normal. I also have to restart my pc fully because task manager also wont pop up when this happens.
As i already said i have all the nessecary perfomance mods installed and my pc is brand new aswell.
Whenever the game does run it runs smoothly without any problems apart from the ones i mention here.
I am quite new to modding though so i might just be missing something simple, i have no idea what an ideal load order is and i just sort it trough LOOT.
In fact i sort the load order trough LOOT in MO2 everytime before i boot up the game just to be sure, i also go trough FNVEdit aswell but i confess i dont really know what that program does.
i got the game from steam, fully patched, installed a couple of days ago. The game is on my (C:) SSD drive but not in program files.
Im using MO2 to install all my mods. I used a youtube installation guide from "GamerPoets" to set it up.
As that guide reccomends the MO2 Mod folder and Overwrite folder is also on my (C:) drive
I also edited the Fallout.ini file and the Falloutprefs.ini files aswell. I used this guide and followed it perfectly.
Here are my PC specs:
Here is the load order:

0 0 FalloutNV.esm
1 1 DeadMoney.esm
2 2 HonestHearts.esm
3 3 OldWorldBlues.esm
4 4 LonesomeRoad.esm
5 5 GunRunnersArsenal.esm
6 6 ClassicPack.esm
7 7 MercenaryPack.esm
8 8 TribalPack.esm
9 9 CaravanPack.esm
10 a YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm
11 b FOOK - New Vegas.esm
12 c FreesideOpen.esm
13 d New Vegas Redesigned 3.esm
14 e FOOK - New Vegas DLCs.esm
15 f ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm
16 10 NVInteriors_Core.esm
17 11 NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
18 12 Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm
19 13 ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm
FCOMaster.esm
20 14 Gomorrah Redesigned v2.esp
21 15 SomeguySeries.esm
22 16 NVStripOpen.esm
23 17 The New Bison Steve Hotel.esm
24 18 NVWillow.esp
25 19 YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp
26 1a The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
27 1b FOOK - New Vegas.esp
28 1c New Vegas Redesigned 3.esp
29 1d Simply Uncut - New Vegas.esp
30 1e FOOK - New Vegas DLCs.esp
31 1f outsidebets.esp
32 20 FreesideOpenPatch.esp
33 21 NVR3_YUP Patch.esp
34 22 Fellout.esp
35 23 CNR_Beta.esp
36 24 Armor Replacer Child NPC Fix.esp
37 25 The Weapon Mod Menu.esp
38 26 CASM with MCM.esp
39 27 MiscItemIconsNV.esp
40 28 Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp
41 29 M1897.esp
42 2a WA2000.esp
43 2b DEagle.esp
44 2c CZ805.esp
45 2d M16A2.esp
46 2e Serbu.esp
47 2f R700.esp
48 30 MSR556.esp
49 31 NVInteriors_Rewritten.esp
50 32 Unofficial Patch Plus.esp
51 33 Unofficial Patch Plus - Addendum.esp
52 34 StripOpenMain.esp
53 35 CourierCacheWSE.esp
54 36 OWB-Path Lights - Darker Nights.esp
55 37 OWB-Path Lights.esp
56 38 rotfacetoriches.esp
57 39 simplyuncutdialogtopicmain5dlcCompatibilityPatch.esp
58 3a NewVegasBounties.esp
59 3b 1nivVSLArmors.esp
60 3c TrooperOverhaul-Dragbody.esp
61 3d NCRTrooperOverhaul.esp
62 3e Roberts_NewVegas.esp
63 3f Better Burned Man.esp
64 40 YUP-Spice of Life Patch.esp
FCO - Roberts Patch.esp
65 41 NVR3_1nivVSLArmors Patch.esp
66 42 NVR3_ArmorReplacerChildNPCFix Patch.esp
67 43 NVR3_CNR Patch.esp
68 44 NVR3_TrooperOverhaulDragbody Patch.esp
69 45 NVR3_UnofficialPatchPlus Patch.esp
70 46 Fellout-OWB.esp
71 47 NewVegasBountiesFSOPatch.esp
FreesideOpenBoulderDomePatch.esp
72 48 Glasses Fix.esp
73 49 awilderwasteland.esp
74 4a NVR3_ElectroCity Patch.esp
75 4b Holster.esp
76 4c Sunglasses Shipment.esp
77 4d Sunglasses Shipment - Four Eyes.esp
Sunglasses Shipment - Merchant.esp
78 4e GlassesInDeadMoney.esp
79 4f JustModsAssorted.esp
80 50 Pacersgambit.esp

note: this load order used to be bigger but i deleted some mods because i thought the issue might have been that i had too many of them installed, the problems i have still exist with this current load order though. I might have deleted around 5 or 6 mods.
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Problem 1: As you have NVSR installed, please see the 'Issue: CTD after 10-20 minutes of play (post-Win10 2017 FCU)' and 'Issue: CTD without warning, "Out of Memory error", or stops responding after the Main Menu' entries in the 'Solutions to "Crash To Desktop" (CTD) problems' section in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide.

:* As an alternative to NVSR, if you are running Win7 or Win10, try using the "New Vegas Tick Fix (NVTF)" mod instead. However, until NVTF includes the option, you may want to continue to use NVSR for the "iThreadsFixedToCPUs" setting.

* Related to the NVSR problem, for problems AFTER a save game is loaded see also 'Issue: Incomplete save game load' in the "Troubleshooting" guide.

Problem 2: * Please see the paragraph about "auto-saves" under the 'Essentials for Getting Started' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article. If you have been using the built-in "auto-save" feature and you get the endless "roulette wheel" when loading a save game, then your current save game file is corrupted and you will have to either go back to a save before the corruption occurred (hard to tell) or start over.

Problem 3: This would normally be something I would direct you to see the 'Solutions to Starting the game problems' or the 'Solutions to "Crash To Desktop" (CTD) problems' sections in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide. However, the intermittent nature of the problem, combined with it resolving itself simply by rebooting suggests to me that some other program is interferring with the game starting. Often this is an "anti-virus" program. Anytime the game "Crashes to the Desktop" (CTD) it's typically going to generate an error message in the Windows Eventlog. Please see the "Windows Error Messages" section of the wiki "How to read most Bethesda game error logs" article.

I recommend anyone read the entire "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article to understand the differences between this game and others you may have experience with; especially if this is your first attempt to play a modded FNV or it's been more than a year since you last did so. It is designed for someone who has never played a modded PC game before, so it tries to avoid making any assumptions, is kept "up-to-date", and covers years of "lessons learned". All of the above responses are in the "Common Problems" section of that article.

-Dubious-

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Thanks for the reply.

 

I've edited the ini files like some of the links you posted told me to and the game is very much more stable.

 

The infinite loading screen and main menu freeze bug haven't appeared at all.

 

I got a new bug though, where i go trough a door and another crash happen, this time it's a black screen and the sound stutters. After some googling i saw this might be a corrupted save game issue so i loaded a couple of saves back and the crash has dissapeared (for now).

 

I don't mind the occasional crash, i guess that's something you have to accept with a game like New Vegas, i'd still like to know if there are any tips to avoid corrupted saves though.

 

 

Thanks again for the reply and the fixes, it helped a lot.

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