ripple Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) If it's not a hardware issue, then at this point I can only suggest that you modify your playing style to deal with the fact that the game engine isn't capable of being stressed too much. As I mentioned before, there's a reason why in the vanilla game, players can only recruit one follower at any time, or that spawns come in maximums of 2's and 3's, and the whole world looks like it just survive a nuclear holocaust rather than being densely populated and thriving. Bethesda knows that if you add more stuff than that, with more ( R)AI's to render, etc., the game will become unstable. Try and limit your followers to no more than 2, and if that still doesn't help, try removing one or more of the script intensive mods, especially the ones rely on continually updating scripts to track your character, and start a fresh game. Edited January 15, 2013 by ripple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegeta0585 Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 yea looks like im just gonna have to suck it up and keep loggin back on after a crash. I do only use two followers. I use some summons as well, however. Ah well, I'll just have to suffer for the greater gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigv32 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 If you don´t mind humoring one more idea. Disable frostfall and any wearable lantern mod you have. Just do it for a little while and see what happens. While those logs show error, one individual error like those is not to much of an issue at all. Sometimes I have noticed with errors that after awhile, you computer basically gets sick of having so many errors and says ****** you lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegeta0585 Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 well I can reproduce it in one instance now. I entered halted steam camp, crouched to sneak. CTD. started back up, crouched to sneak CTD. ...3 more times. crouch CTD. No idea why, never had the issue crouching before. I may disable the lantern, im going to take my companions lanters away and crouch, see if it CTDs or if its the on/off lantern script doing it since they turn it off when crouching. frostfall I wont disable. I actually put off playing Skyrim till frostfall 2.0 came out. Its one of those mods thats make or break for me, if I cant have frostfall, skyre, and realistic needs and diseases? I'll play something else. edit* yep, took JEnassa's lantern away, no CTD. And one thing ALL the CTDs have in common....is that companions had lanterns on >.> okay, I took lanterns away from companions and took mine off. I have been TRYING to crash my game. Sprinting into huge spawned groups, upping the spawn settings to 5.0 on my spawn mod. zoning in and out of stores repeatedly, and no crash....I think I found my culprit, which sucks cause I love the mod, and dont know anyone else but me and my buddy having the issues. Wonder what mod is conflicting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Sometimes if you have too many running scripts, the game will start to choke. The irony is that Chesko is the author for both 'Wearable Lanterns' and 'Frostfall.' I don't use 'Frostfall', but I do use 'Wearable Lanterns' and don't have any issues. It could use an update though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegeta0585 Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 yea... now im back to crashing upon every other zone or so. Load dragonsreach ...crash.... load tavern....crash... cut firewood with frostfall.... crash edit* crashing like mad now in whiterun, every 5 mins or so :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegeta0585 Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 completely removed lanterns, been playing for quite a while with nothing....*crosses fingers* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks1973 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Well Veg guess what, tick tick tock tock, your about to ....................yep you guessed it CRASH... Lol dunna worry hun Ive been crashing lots aswell, all random and no particular install/uninstall of mod seems to cure it. Its just one of those things where we have to put up or shut up. Im like you I love the immersion, gameplay, everything. I love the game. Im reinstalling again now although ive learnt a lot since last time. Hopefully hopefully it'll be different this time round but who knows....we'll see. Anyways good luck with your game and out of interest keep posting so can see how your getting on. Ill let you know how i go on after reinstall tomorrow. I think Ill try with Alternate Start this time aswell. Something about a particular sound that occurs in Vanilla start to game that bugs if you load AS. Anyways enough of me waffling on, good luck and keep trying, never give up. :) I meant to say start without Alternate Start.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigv32 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Vegata, just so you know, when we are telling you to uninstall a mod here, we aren't telling you not to play with them. We are trying to figure out if those are the mods that are having the conflicts. When we determine that they are the ones that are having problems, then we figure out why. Once we know why we will know what other mods they are having issues with. Only then will we know what the problem is/was and how you can go about fixing it. In over 90% of the cases I have seen and had with mod conflicts, CTD's are caused by conflicts involving the major mods such as frostfall, ASIS, warzones, etc. However, it is usually that this conflicts are caused by those mods conflicting with other smaller mods. Once you find out what mods are involved in your crashes, you can pick which mod you must have or manually fix the issue. Also, installing mods after removing mods while trying to determine what the issue is is never a good idea. I have seen people asking for help on here before, and when you look over the whole thread, you see they have uninstalled some mods and then reinstalled them while also adding other mods. A couple of more things that aren't exactly related to this thread, but are useful. @Ripple. You have mentioned MO a couple of times. I am seriously considering trying it out, but I have read a couple of things that say it can cause issues with BOSS and TEXVedit. Also, if you alter a mod in one of these, it does not save these changes to an esp controled by MO. Any info on this? Also to Ripple or anyone else. Has anyone ever had an issue like in this thread? http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/884556-mods-not-quite-playing-right-together/page__p__7096225__fromsearch__1#entry7096225 It is a save game issue, but I have never heard of it before now. You can skip to post 6 or 7 as that is where the issue is clarified better. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegeta0585 Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 Played for almost 4 hours straight with no crashes, then I was doin some alchemy in the white Phail. finished makin my potions....left alchemy table. CTD. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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