KC33 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Hey I need help my game lags like crazy and i have a great computer Here is my load order00 Oblivion.esm • 01 CM Partners.esm • 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm • 03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm • 04 Bab.esm [Version FINAL] • 05 AWS-Core.esm • 06 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.52] • 07 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] • 08 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.6beta3] • 09 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7] • 0A DremoraCompanion.esm • 0B Progress.esm [Version 2.0] • 0C CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm • 0D HorseCombatMaster.esm • == NONE===================== • 0E Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] • 0F UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] • 10 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp • 11 DLCShiveringIsles.esp • 12 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] • 13 Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp • 14 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp • 15 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp • 16 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp • 17 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp • ++ Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp • ++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 18 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 19 Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp • 1A Atmospheric Loading Screens - Original Text.esp • 1B AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp • 1C Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp • 1D DLCHorseArmor.esp • 1E DLCOrrery.esp • 1F DLCVileLair.esp • 20 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp • 21 DLCSpellTomes.esp • ++ Bab.esp [Version RC1] • 22 Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp • 23 BlackLuster.esp • 24 BlackLuster 2SwordStyle.esp • 25 M.O.E. - Playable Scythe.esp [Version 2] • ++ M.O.E. - Unlocked Dremora Armour and Robes.esp [Version 1] • ++ M.O.E. - Unlocked Glenroy and Captain Renault Blades Armour.esp [Version 1] • 26 Nicoroshi Creations DW heavy.esp • 27 Nicos Scimitars Back.esp [Version 1.61] • 28 Nicos Kynareth Archery.esp [Version 1.0] • 29 Sauron_Armor_Chest.esp • 2A Wyrmfang.esp • 2B A Very Silly Slaughterfish Mod.esp • 2C AncientTowers.esp • 2D DLCThievesDen.esp • 2E ExnemRuneskulls.esp • ++ FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 2F Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.50] • 30 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.32] • 31 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.41] • ++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 32 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp • 33 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 34 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp • 35 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 36 Malevolent.esp • 37 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] • 38 1AlexScorpionSneakingSuit.esp • 39 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34] • 3A OOO-LightOfDawnFlamesWhenDrawnOBSE.esp • 3B FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2] • 3C FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.6Beta3] • ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.6beta3] • 3D Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp [Version 3.6Beta3] • 3E Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp [Version 3.6Beta3] • 3F Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.6Beta3] • 40 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.6Beta2] • 41 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.6Beta3] • ++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_Archery.esp • ++ FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp [Version 2] • ++ FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp [Version 1] • 42 BabShop.esp • 43 GlenvarCastle.esp • 44 Gaenor in Dementia.esp [Version 2] • 45 HauntedHouse.esp • 46 KumikoManor.esp • 47 LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp • 48 M.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.esp [Version 2] • 49 MiniCyrodiil.esp • 4A MountainTower.esp [Version 6.0] • 4B Servant of the Dawn.esp • 4C Star Ship Orion.esp • 4D TempleOfZealotsV2.esp • 4E TheElderCouncil.esp • 4F TheVaultofOrder.esp • 50 24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp • 51 DLCFrostcrag.esp • 52 Knights.esp • ++ KnightsBabFemaleArmors.esp • 53 The Lost Spires.esp • 54 TOTF.esp • 55 RTT.esp • 56 Mighty Umbra.esp • 57 The Soul of Ilithiel.esp • 58 Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp [Version 1.4] • 59 Origin of the Mages Guild.esp [Version 6] • 5A Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.6Beta3] • ++ FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_Ruin.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 5B FCOM_OMG.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 5C KvatchAftermath.esp • 5D Birthsigns Expanded.esp [Version 2.1.] • 5E Bullettimemod.esp • 5F M.O.E. - Lucien Lachance Rumors Fix.esp [Version 1] • ++ M.O.E. - Icons for Mythic Dawn Armour - Fix.esp [Version 1] • 60 M.O.E. - Lycanthropy and Lichcraft.esp [Version 7] • 61 M.O.E. - New Classes.esp [Version 1] • 62 Quest Award Leveling SI.esp • 63 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1] • ++ Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0] • ++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0] • ++ Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0] • 64 MidasSpells.esp • 65 Midas OscuroGems.esp • 66 MidasMagicCompanions.esp • 67 hilarity_121.esp • 68 M.O.E. - Ethereal State Spell.esp [Version 1] • 69 M.O.E. - Levitation Magic.esp [Version 1] • 6A M.O.E. - Mythic Dawn Powers.esp [Version 1] • 6B M.O.E. - Teleportation Magic and Icarian Flight.esp [Version 2] • 6C Madgod Powers.esp • 6D bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.62EV] • ++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp • ++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.62EV] • ++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp • 6E bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.62EV] • ++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.62EV] • ++ bgMagicEVExtendedConjurationDuration.esp [Version 1.55EV] • 6F PJs Spells - Cheap Spells.esp • 70 Enchantment Master.esp • 71 Multiple Enchantments.esp • 72 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp • 73 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp • 74 nGCD.esp • 75 nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp • ++ Immediate Character Generation.esp • 76 Legendary Abilities-Reflect MOJ.esp • ++ [GFX]_Initial_Glow-self.esp • 77 bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.62EV] • 78 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp • ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.6Beta3] • ++ M.O.E. - Unlocked Hairstyles.esp [Version 1] • 79 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp • 7A Ice Elves and Wolf Elves.esp • 7B CM Partners.esp • 7C CM Partners Special NPCs.esp • 7D CM Partners NPC.esp • 7E CM Partners More NPCs.esp • 7F CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp • 80 SnowAndHarukoCMPartners.esp • 81 Sonia.esp • 82 DremoraCompanion.esp • 83 Willful Resistance.esp [Version 3.1o] • 84 DAKaleahSuccubus.esp • 85 Tiefling Races.esp • 86 GoldDaedricArmor.esp • 87 WayshrineMapMarkers.esp • 88 Playable Sheogorath.esp • 89 m16a2.esp • 8A JBlades!.esp • 8B JBlades!1.1.esp • 8C JHraesvelgrsTalon.esp • 8D JHussarSaber.esp • 8E JDragvandill.esp • 8F JSoulSlayer.esp • 90 Sword of Aeons.esp • 91 Gun Mage.esp • 92 The Sixth Element - no willpower.esp • 93 PlayableSheogorathMod.esp • 94 tda_PHModv1.2.esp • 95 AsharasCMBeastScriptPatch.esp • 96 M.O.E. - Playable Dremora and Custom Race Fix.esp [Version 1] • 97 M.O.E. - New Staffs, Blight and Ashstorms.esp [Version 2] • 98 Postal's Playable Dark Seducers.esp • 99 Postal's Playable Golden Saints.esp • 9A Postal's Playable Sheogorath Beards.esp • 9B springfield.esp • 9C Necromancy for the Novitiate.esp • 9D Bluefire Claymore by Mr. V.esp • 9E Super Madness Armour V1.0.esp • 9F DeathKightSpells v1_3.esp • A0 Daedric Chainsaw.esp • A1 MetricksSciFi.esp • A2 Bashed Patch, 0.esp • A3 TES4ViewLink.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Even the best computer can be bogged down by mods. Put simply, you probably have too many script heavy, large addon mods running for your rig. If you have a very slow framerate, it is because you have alot of extra meshes, or high detail textures present, it is usually a videocard issue. If you have slow response times, such as NPCs not noticing you right away, slow registration of actions, or things going to where you just were, it is usually a processor issue. If you have poor loading times, and general instability, it's usually a RAM issue. Oblivion really, was made with future computers in mind, so is lacking many optimization and performance improvements. With mods added in, the chances of system requirements being much higher are almost certain. Many older mods do not have the optimized collision meshes, and many visual improvement mods are done with little concern for optimization. A 8192x8192 body texture may sound like a good idea, but few videocards can handle images that large well, if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihoe Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I agree with vagrant,Mate, You got more than 100 mods running and most of them have new textures or meshes, just see the size of your oblivion's folder, if it's not more than 8 GB's I will change my name (Oblivion normally uses 5 GB's without mods). I have a solution:if you really love experiencing your game completely modified You should as well forget about FPS. BUT if you like to have a better experience when playing and really love to have a Fast FPS, you must delete 40 mods that have textures, meshes etc. DarkUI mods also cause a performance hit.lower your resolution to 1028x1024, lower the specular distance and don't use 3rd person to much.mods with large scripts also cause the game to slow down. don't use 24 hour respawn like mods, they are all nothing but problems.IE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC33 Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 It seems to be Npc taking a while to act and fps is bad what can i purchase to solve that problem , Before nGCD i had solid framerate but now even when i deactivate nGCD it still lags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC33 Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Ok i think it is OBSEv16 causing the lag because be4 it wit obsev15a i had no lag so do u no any fixes for OBSEv16I use vista Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezdimona Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 It seems to be Npc taking a while to act and fps is bad what can i purchase to solve that problem , Before nGCD i had solid framerate but now even when i deactivate nGCD it still lagsit just came out and its a beta General Load-Order Guidelines Here are the guidelines that I adhere to, personally. ~ Unofficial Oblivon Patch should always be first on the list. The fixes are great, but most aren't essential, so if a mod overwrites them its not a big deal, and the fixes have the potential for screwing up other mods if loaded later. ~ Offical Content (DLC's) should be loaded last, until you complete all quests associated with them (that includes buying all furniture for the houses and whatnot). Once they're complete, they can be safely moved up in the list. This is especially important for Knights of the Nine, which will have some fairly major problems unless loaded last (unless you get the UOP for KotN) ~ Major overhaul mods (OOO, Frans, MMM) should be loaded near the end. That gives you the most complete experience with any of those particular mods. It also lets you carefully choose which other mods to load afterwards... only move mods that you know will conflict and that you want the changes from. For example, I have Improved Soul Gems below OOO because I know that OOO changes the icons of some of the SG's, and ISG needs to be below to show through. Some people will recommend putting larger mods first, but personally I disagree. There are a number of mods out there that make minor tweaks, and loading after a large mod will end up completely overwriting a chunk from one of the bigger mods because of the way conflicts work in Oblivion (even one minor change will take precedence over the entire record... for example, simply tweaking the speed of a weapon can cause every stat of that weapon to be retained to vanilla levels if loaded later). So basically, it stacks up like this... Oblivion.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch<Minor Mods / DLC's (Post-Completion)><Major Overhaul Mod/Mods><Mods that specifically conflict with overhauls and need to take precedence><DLC's (Pre-Completion)> Expanded Load-Order Guidelinesby dev_akm I would extend this to include: Oblivion.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch<Weather/Environment/Sound Mods><Minor Mods/New Items/Houses/DLC's (Post-Completion)><Major Overhaul Mods><Mods that specifically conflict with overhauls and need to take precedence><DLC's (Pre-Completion)><Quests><Compatibility Patches/UOMP/Merged Leveled Lists> And a special-case warning for Knights.esp (Knights of the Nine) -- you may not be able to move it earlier than some other mods (some people have had problems after moving it before OOO, for example). That's basically the structure I use and I have 140+ mods working well together. Another way of describing this (posted by DMan77):....Oblivionunoffical patchDeeper realism mods that add sights and soundsadded content like weapons/itemsgameplay changes, like 'must eat and sleep'The OOO typethe 'new begining' type mod..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC33 Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Turns out the real problem was willful resistancebut it was probably an incompatibility wit another mod so i removed it and my game is solid thnks 4 the help though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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