Is my load order too script heavy?

[Salvinha]

Hello guys, I'm here making a new thread asking for your opinion.
I just finished with installing the mods I want to play in my next run. But I really dont know if i'm abusing too many heavy script mods. So far I think I dont.
The most script heavy mods I have (IMO), are Advanced Needs 2 + Agony, Crime and Punishment and Sim Settlements (All modules and expansions).

See my load order below:

 

Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
BodyTalk3-RaiderNormalsFix.esl
CWSS Redux.esp
HUDFramework.esm
ArmorKeywords.esm
ImmersiveScalingAWKCRTweakedESL.esl
NewCalibers.esp
ImmersiveDogmeat.esl
Immersive_Molotovs_Flamer_Ruddy88ExtendedESL.esl
WorkshopFramework.esm
SimSettlements.esm
CAPA.esl
SelectAssaultRifle.esl
Homemaker.esm
DrGoodneighbor.esl
GraveDigger.esl
GraveDigger - Gravestones.esl
Knockout Framework.esm
SmallerMoon17.esl
ACS Master.esm
Arbitration - Resources.esm
AAF.esm
OVT.esp
SavrenXCreaturesPackDlcREDONE.esp
SavrenX SuperMutant Armor HD.esp
SavrenXWeaponHD.esp
SavrenXHdDlcPowerArmor.esp
SavrenXSynthHD.esp
SavrenXFoodAndFoodware.esp
SavrenX HD DLC Armor and Clothes.esp
SavrenX HD Vanilla Armor.esp
SavrenX HD Vanilla Clothes Optimized.esp
ConceptCentaur.esp
Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - V81.esp
Nexus_PMC.esp
PMC_extended.esp
BodyTalk3-LooksMenu.esp
Censor_Comments.esp
Depth of Field Removal.esp
Ghouls Revamped.esp
Realistic Roads - Fade.esp
Child Posters.esp
HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp
Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp
DCE_female_body_replacer_EasyGirl.esp
AA LMSE_FarHarbor.esp
RadiantBirdsv05.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
Fr4nssonsLightTweaks.esp
Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
ArmorClothingOverhaul.esp
brotherhood of steel overhaul.esp
RaiderOverhaul.esp
FaceMaxson.esp
FaceMaxson-AdVictorium_Patch.esp
DansesWearableHolotags_v01-2.esp
Betterautomatronweaponsandbots.esp
R88_SimpleSorter.esp
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
ImmersiveDrumlinDiner.esp
FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
FunctionalDisplays.esp
FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp
CrimeTown.esp
DeadAirplane.esp
Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - Institute.esp
CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp
CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp
Institute Overhaul.esp
ChildrenofGoodneighbor.esp
Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Quest.esp
W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - Prydwen.esp
AA Lots More Settlers and Enemies.esp
Orphans.esp
Guards.esp
strong_PA.esp
strong_PA - AWKCR.esp
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
Quieter Settlements - Recommended Settings.esp
FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL-VIS.esp
Vault-Tec Workshop Overhaul Redux.esp
Flashy_PlayerFarming.esp
Better Aim Models.esp
AWKCR - Mod Power Armor Engine Glitch Fix.esp
BLD - AI Tweaks.esp
P.G.Overhaul.esp
SettlementMenuManager.esp
SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp
ImmersiveLoversEmbraceRemastered.esp
ImmersiveGenericDialogues.esp
ImmersiveLoversEmbraceMagnolia.esp
TinaDeLucaSettlerVoiced.esp
Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment.esp
Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp
The Sanctuary Bridge.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Vivid Waters.esp
PlaneWreck.esp
Snappy_HouseK.esp
Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - Railroad HQ.esp
MilitarizedMinutemen.esp
AtomCatGarage.esp
Mercenary.esp
Railroad Overhaul.esp
jDS__HP_Skull_Mask.esp
Gunner Overhaul.esp
D.E.C.A.Y.esp
CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp
UFOCrashSite.esp
CROSS_MojaveManhunter.esp
mk14.esp
AdvancedNeeds2.esp
AdvancedNeeds2_Expansion_04_MestrualCycle.esp
MK_Agony.esp
AdvancedNeeds2_Patch_Agony(Survival).esp
ECV_RemnantsArmor.esp
Campsite.esp
AdvancedNeeds2_Patch_Campsite.esp
AdvancedNeeds2_Expansion_02_Spoilage.esp
M2216.esp
ReconPack.esp
HaxRPG7.esp
OTs33Pernach.esp
Mosin.esp
Krebs.esp
Crossbow.esp
SCAR-L.esp
IcebreakerCDO-Settlements.esp
CAPA.esp
Rangergearnew.esp
ClassicSniper.esp
ellen.esp
M1Garand.esp
M1Garand - AWKCR.esp
llamaCompanionHeather.esp
RU556.esp
AK74M.esp
DX_Black_Widow.esp
SVT40.esp
zPatch.esp
SVT40-AWKCR.esp
ChildrenofBunkerHill.esp
SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
9x39Project.esp
NightTimeGodRaysAllinOne.esp
Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp
DarkerNights.esp
DarkerNights-Radiant.esp
LooksMenu.esp
More Where That Came From - Classic.esp
More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
SaveAcadiaFromBoS.esp
EnclaveX02.esp
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp
TurretStands.esp
Glazing.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
Craftable Vault 81 Cure.esp
Pictures Of Remembrance.esp
Wasteland Workshop Streetlights.esp
TakeCover.esp
FlaconOil_BA2_2K_Part3.esp
FlaconOil_BA2_2K_Part2.esp
dD-Realistic Ragdoll Force.esp
Campsite-Full-Sleep.esp
HighlightConsoleReference.esp
HandsOff.esp
FlaconOil_BA2_2K_Part1.esp
AutoHack.esp
TrueGrass.esp
WorkshopPlus.esp
Swinging Meat Bags.esp
Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
FAR.esp
BetterCompanions.esp
EpilogueRestored.esp
Blues Radio DBR.esp
Danse GTFO Power Armor.esp
Deathclaw combatStyle.esp
g2m_Workshop_Nexus.esp
Famished.esp
PortableRecycler.esp
OCDecorator.esp
This is MY Bed (Extended).esp
OCDecoratorDLC.esp
OCDispenser.esp
SolarPower.esp
ABP Paintings.esp
ACS Paintings.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp
Lots More Facial Hair.esp
Higher Female Children Voice.esp
FlirtyCommonwealthMale.esp
Deeper Voice For Preston - Type A3.esp
ItsAllOverReplacer.esp
WestTekTacticalOptics.esp
Wasteland Sniper by Hothtrooper44.esp
K9TacticalHarness.esp
Hellfirenew.esp
DX Adventurer Outfit.esp
CustomCamera.esp
Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons - Auto Raise from Cover.esp
ValiusHDTextures2K.esp
Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp
FixDanseInRailroadInstEnding.esp
Perk Magazine Material Fix.esp
SpotlightFix-100-Shadow.esp
Weapons of Fate.esp
CF_AtomicWarlord.esp
NukaRadBans.esp
Horrorghouls1.8.esp
Extended weapon mods.esp
NewCalibers_extendedWeaponMods.esp
Better Explosives Redux.esp
CraftingFramework.esp
CraftingFrameworkAWKCR2.esp
Scav Overhaul.esp
FunctionalDisplays-AID-Vanilla.esp
FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL.esp
Unique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters.esp
Hit Em Where It Hurts- All.esp
SuperMutantRedux.esp
Centaur_SMRedux_Patch.esp
Crafting Framework Patcher.esp
Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
BetterSettlers.esp
Merged Better Settlers LSME.esp
BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp
BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
X-02 PipboyLight Patch.esp
Simple Sorter Patcher].esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

 

 

As there are scripted mods without .esp or .esl, below is a link with prints of my mods in vortex (by category):

https://imgur.com/a/7v5sXLc

 

I also made a bashed patch for leveled lists. Is that still a thing?

Can I bloat my save with my current load order? I'm totally aware not to install scripted mods mid-game, much less withdrawing them. If I install anything, it will be armors, weapons and content in general. Nothing that will break the game with scripts.

I'm still going to sort the load order better. Just wanted to post here to show you. I'm still choosing a loot manager mod, so it will be one more mod.

Edited July 16, 2020 by Salvinha

[bl3azy]

The game allocates ~70mb of memory when reading script properties so multiple script heavy mods will overwhelm & eventually bork your saves. HOWEVER there is a fairly recent solution for that.

Baka ScrapHeap a Script Memory Limit Expander

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/46340

This plugin doubles that memory allocation to ~130mb with the option to expand even more.
With this, I haven't had any issues so with this, you can focus on making sure your game is as conflict free as possible.

[akiracybertar]

Hello! i host the load order and performance page on the nexus. slightly out of date now but will be updated sometime soon for vortex users

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10844?tab=description

 

I concur, use baka scrap heap. You have many mods. Some of which i have never used myself or even heard of. Lots of scripts running i would say looking briefly at your mod list should not be too much of an issue.

However if your looking to avoid problems with FO4 and have it stable and running smooth. Load order is a priority. ( Do not trust vortex to sort load order correctly. it does not in many cases) Also make sure of the overwriting rules you have set for mod conflicts i have had a few occasions where the suggestions are incorrect

Also beware of one of the most popular fallout mods. The settlement mods... can destroy the framerates of the most powerful computers They are also heavily scripted

 

Also check for any bugs/conflicts and issues with mods you download by reading the posts on the mod page and make sure you have relevant patches.

 

Lastly i would say choose quality over quantity. Ask yourself, do i really need this mod? am i using it? does it effect my playthrough favorably?

 

A trimmed down load order can mean the difference of microstutter versus no microstutter. Lots of crashes versus the occasional or zero crashes.

 

Edit....heh just looked at your load order... it is all over the place lol. Ok am i correct that you use vortex?

Edited August 22, 2020 by akiracybertar