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Hey guys,

 

Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help me out. I just did a fresh install of Skyrim a few days ago and it has been randomly CTD. It doesn't seem to be time specific, so I'm guessing it may be an issue with my load order.

 

For system specs:

(MSI GT683 gaming laptop)

2.2ghz i7

Nvidia GTX570m gpu

12gb ddr3 1333

Windows 8

 

Entire HDD was wiped and a fresh OS install was done about 12 days ago. All drivers are up to date. All mods installed are fresh downloads as well.

 

I ran BOSS and here's my list.

 

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 52 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

Dawnguard.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 602 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

HearthFires.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

ApachiiHair.esm Active

RaceCompatibility.esm Active

CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm ActiveNote: Obsolete. Update to the latest version.

 

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

Omegared99-Compilation.esm Active

SPIKE.esm Active

WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 66 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Active

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active

Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp Active

Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp Active

Immersive Battles.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 23 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

Immersive Brigands.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 12 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

Immersive Dawnguard.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 23 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

Immersive Patrols.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 31 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

Immersive Travelers.esp Active

Immersive Werewolves.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

SabreFurBag.esp Active

Convenient Horses.esp Active

SkyUI.esp Active

iHUD.esp Active

Cloaks.esp Active

Cloaks - No Imperial.espNote: Use only one cloaks*esp

 

Cloaks - Player Only.espNote: Use only one cloaks*esp

 

1nivWICCloaks.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Incompatible with: Cloaks of skyrim, get the compatibility patch in the WIC optional files.

Incompatible with: Cloaks of skyrim, get the compatibility patch in the WIC optional files.

 

1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.espWarning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

 

1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.espWarning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

Incompatible with: Cloaks of skyrim (even with compatibility patch). To fix this use another WICCloaks esp or uninstall cloaks of skyrim.

 

DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp Active

dragonpriestmasks.esp Active

Dread Huntress Armor.esp Active

DreamBurrowsRegalAssassin.esp Active

Field Mage Outfit.esp Active

Guild Duelist Armor.esp Active

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

MashupUNP.esp Active

Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp Active

SpawnAxe.esp Active

Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp Active

XAC.esp Active

Dr_Bandolier.esp Active

DeadlyDragons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

DeadlyDragonsSpells.esp Active

DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp Active

CK's Might of the Legion.esp Active

Masters of Death.esp Active

armored-horses.esp Active

Immersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp Active

TAVERiften.esp Active

TAVESolitude.esp Active

TAVEWindhelm.esp Active

TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.esp Active

WhiterunInEnhanced.esp Active

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp ActiveNote: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp

 

Horsemen.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 24 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

Horsemen Combat Enhancement.esp Active

SkyRe_Main.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}

Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.

Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'

Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.

Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:

Note: [Actor]

Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

Note: [Combat]

Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

 

SkyRe_Combat.esp Active

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

 

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active

Beards.esp Active

XCES.esp ActiveWarning: Obsolete. Update to the latest version.

 

XCEMwW.esp Active

TemptressVixen.esp Active

navetsea female face preset.esp Active

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.

 

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active

SkyRe_Races.esp Active

ReProccer.esp Active

 

 

 

 

I already disabled the WIC cloaks plugins and Capes plugins that are known to have conflicts. As I said, I'm getting intermittent CTDs and I'm not sure what the issue could be.

 

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks!

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1) There is a compatibility patch for WiC and CoS. But the issue with these mods in your load order is....

 

Cloaks - No Imperial.espNote: Use only one cloaks*esp

Cloaks - Player Only.espNote: Use only one cloaks*esp

 

1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.espWarning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.espWarning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

 

As stated in the mod descriptions and in the BOSS log, pick one of each. If you pick a plugin that does not distribute the cloaks to NPCs via outfit record edits, then you won't need a compatibility patch. If you do want NPCs to spawn with cloaks (from either mod), then you would need the compatibility patch (which merges the conflicting outfit records), and then use Wrye Bash to generate a Bashed Patch which will merge the conflicting leveled lists.

 

2) The BOSS log has informed you that several esp's in your load order needs cleaning, so follow the link, download TES5Edit, and the instructions on that page to clean the esp's flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edit.'

 

3) CTDs: are they outdoor or in interior cells? Was there any pattern to them at all (you had many followers, was crafting, near places where certain mods had placed extra spawns or spawn points, etc.)?

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1) There is a compatibility patch for WiC and CoS. But the issue with these mods in your load order is....

 

Cloaks - No Imperial.espNote: Use only one cloaks*esp

Cloaks - Player Only.espNote: Use only one cloaks*esp

 

1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.espWarning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.espWarning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

 

As stated in the mod descriptions and in the BOSS log, pick one of each. If you pick a plugin that does not distribute the cloaks to NPCs via outfit record edits, then you won't need a compatibility patch. If you do want NPCs to spawn with cloaks (from either mod), then you would need the compatibility patch (which merges the conflicting outfit records), and then use Wrye Bash to generate a Bashed Patch which will merge the conflicting leveled lists.

 

2) The BOSS log has informed you that several esp's in your load order needs cleaning, so follow the link, download TES5Edit, and the instructions on that page to clean the esp's flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edit.'

 

3) CTDs: are they outdoor or in interior cells? Was there any pattern to them at all (you had many followers, was crafting, near places where certain mods had placed extra spawns or spawn points, etc.)?

 

 

CTDs: I'm only level 4 with this new character and haven't had the chance to visit too many places yet so I don't know whether it's happening inside and outside or not. All CTDs have been outside so far.

 

BOSS cleaning: I've read that cleaning of the unofficial updates is a big no no. Is that true or can they be safely cleaned along with all of the other dirty edits?

 

I'm using the patch for WIC cloaks and capes, and have both of them set so that NPCs will spawn with them. I haven't used Wyre Bash to create a patch yet though.

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Ok so I went through and cleaned all the dirty edits and now am not getting any dirty edit errors. I am however still receiving bash tag edit suggestions. I'm not quite sure how to use wrye bash to relev, delev my mods. I asked my friend Google, but he didn't have much more than heresay and some technical jargon that I'm apparently too dumb to comprehend effectively.

 

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

Dawnguard.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

HearthFires.esm Active

ApachiiHair.esm Active

RaceCompatibility.esm Active

CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm ActiveNote: Obsolete. Update to the latest version.

 

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active

Omegared99-Compilation.esm Active

SPIKE.esm Active

WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm Active

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Active

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active

Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp Active

Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp Active

Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp Active

Immersive Battles.esp Active

Immersive Brigands.esp Active

Immersive Dawnguard.esp Active

Immersive Patrols.esp Active

Immersive Travelers.esp Active

Immersive Werewolves.esp Active

Owned.esp Active

SabreFurBag.esp Active

Convenient Horses.esp Active

SkyUI.esp Active

iHUD.esp Active

battleflute.esp Active

Cloaks.esp Active

Cloaks - No Imperial.espNote: Use only one cloaks*esp

 

Cloaks - Player Only.espNote: Use only one cloaks*esp

 

1nivWICCloaks.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

 

1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.espWarning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

 

1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.espWarning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.

Incompatible with: Cloaks of skyrim (even with compatibility patch). To fix this use another WICCloaks esp or uninstall cloaks of skyrim.

 

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch-No Imp.esp ActiveIncompatible with: 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch esp

 

DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp Active

dragonpriestmasks.esp Active

Dread Huntress Armor.esp Active

DreamBurrowsRegalAssassin.esp Active

Field Mage Outfit.esp Active

Guild Duelist Armor.esp Active

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

MashupUNP.esp Active

Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp Active

SpawnAxe.esp Active

Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp Active

XAC.esp Active

Dr_Bandolier.esp Active

DeadlyDragons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

DeadlyDragonsSpells.esp Active

DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp Active

CK's Might of the Legion.esp Active

Masters of Death.esp Active

armored-horses.esp Active

BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp Active

Immersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

 

RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp Active

TAVERiften.esp Active

TAVESolitude.esp Active

TAVEWindhelm.esp Active

TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.esp Active

WhiterunInEnhanced.esp Active

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp ActiveNote: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp

 

Horsemen.esp Active

Horsemen Combat Enhancement.esp Active

SkyRe_Main.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}

Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.

Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'

Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.

Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:

Note: [Actor]

Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

Note: [Combat]

Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

 

SkyRe_Combat.esp Active

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

 

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active

Beards.esp Active

XCES.esp Active

XCEMwW.esp Active

TemptressVixen.esp Active

navetsea female face preset.esp Active

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.

 

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active

SkyRe_Races.esp Active

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

ReProccer.esp Active

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1) For the two cloak mods, if you want the cloaks to spawn on NPCs, just remove all the optional plugins and use only the default plugin and the compatibility patch. The Bash Patch will handle the conflicting leveled lists. The optional plugins are for people who do not want the cloaks to appear on NPCs (like 'craft only' and 'no imperials or guards will spawn with cloaks.' If that's not what you want, remove those plugins. Otherwise, choose only one of them as noted by BOSS and the mod descriptions).

 

2) Most of the time, you don't really need to worry about the Bash tag suggestions. Most popular mods requiring Bash tags have already been properly tagged by the authors, but you can double check by going to the right bottom panel of the Wrye Bash screen after you highlight an esp, which will then display any Bash tags attached to the esp. You should highlight the official DLC esm's and check to see if they've been properly Bash tagged. If not, then right click on the bash tag window, and put a check mark beside the proper tag as recommended by BOSS. After you are done, rebuild your Bashed Patch, then your ReProccer patch, and you are ready to go. I recommend starting a new game too with your new clean load order, just to ensure you don't encounter any crap that might have been baked into your savegames from the dirty edits, but it's not essential.

 

3) CTDs: mods that add more spawns and spawn points to the worldspace will make worldspace travel inherently more unstable (how much more depends on what they add and how much of it they add). This is not the fault of the mods, but a limitation of the engine. It's why the default game suffers from a 'depopulation problem' (because Bethesda does not want players to know the game engine is aging poorly). So, mods like Warzones and Immersive Patrols (although Warzones much more than Immersive Patrols). You could consider removing some of the 'more outdoor spawns' mods to try and stabilize your game. Remember to always rebuild your Bashed Patch and ReProccer patch after you alter your load order.

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