SE Kills my Save every time. I am annoyed by the special edition.

[Mizu20]

Okay so to keep it short and simple. I am playing skyrim till my characters playtime reaches about 100 hours (I end up between level 39 - 44 every time) and then random from one saving to the next, my save is dead. Next time when I will load my save the game will just crash

 

It doesnt say my save is corrupted or anything but my game crashes everytime. Whenever I load an older save it works untill the exact same point, then I save, saving succeeded. Wanna reload the save - crash.

 

I never removed a mod or added a mod during one of the 3 playthroughs that ended the exact tragic way now.

 

Here's my load order and mods:

 

• 0 0 Skyrim.esm
  1 1 Update.esm
  2 2 Dawnguard.esm
  3 3 HearthFires.esm
  4 4 Dragonborn.esm
  5 5 RSkyrimChildren.esm
  6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  7 7 Heels Sound.esm
  8 8 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
  9 9 RaceCompatibility.esm
  10 a TravellersOfSkyrim.esm
  11 b SkyUI_SE.esp
  12 c Obsidian Weathers.esp
  254 FE 0 [COCO]ChristmasGift.esp
  254 FE 1 [COCO]Bikini Collection.esp
  254 FE 2 [COCO]Student_Uniform.esp
  254 FE 3 TBD - DibellaBikini.esp
  13 d ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
  254 FE 4 Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp
  14 e SOSRaceMenu.esp
  15 f tpos_ultimate_esm.esp
  16 10 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
  17 11 Skyrim Unbound.esp
  18 12 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
  19 13 Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
  20 14 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
  21 15 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
  22 16 Water for ENB.esp
  23 17 Run For Your Lives.esp
  24 18 Immersive Patrols II.esp
  25 19 Immersive Weapons.esp
  26 1a Playable Non-Playable Armor.esp
  27 1b Invisible_Helmet.esp
  28 1c GPRuins.esp
  29 1d Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
  254 FE 5 Skyrim Unbound - Option - Female.esp
  254 FE 6 Natural Interface.esp
  30 1e Footprints.esp
  31 1f Unconscious.esp
  32 20 TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
  33 21 WetandCold.esp
  34 22 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
  35 23 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
  36 24 EBT - IC PATCH.esp
  37 25 KS Dragon Overhaul.esp
  254 FE 7 KSHairdosSMP.esp
  38 26 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
  39 27 RFCharacterOverhaul.esp
  40 28 RFCharacterOverhaul_USSEP.esp
  41 29 SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrimSE.esp
  42 2a RaceMenu.esp
  43 2b XPMSE.esp
  44 2c dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp
  45 2d KS Hairdo's.esp
  46 2e RSChildren.esp
  47 2f ERF - Futanari CBBE - Equippable.esp
  48 30 SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp
  49 31 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
  50 32 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
  51 33 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
  52 34 FNIS.esp
  53 35 Dead Body Collision.esp
  54 36 SOS - Shop.esp
  55 37 ArrowInTheEverywhere_Med_Longer.esp
  56 38 Open Cities Skyrim.esp

 

Here is a download to my crashing save file... maybe, if someone is interested, someone will be able to tell me what is wrong with it: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o9VkXMffUSf3ejr_VWtSuGmQVreZA7fl/view?usp=sharing

 

Thatnks for your attention.

Edited August 5, 2020 by Mizu20

[Algabar]

Hey,
that's an interesting case. I looked at your save. According to "Fallrim Tools", it is clean. Nothing problematic at all. Although I got quite a different load order, I could also load your save without any issues. Me likes Dark Brotherhood Khajiit with Krosis... :geek:

So, technically the save game seems fine. At least there's no apparant issue with it. There's also no save game bloat. The size is well within the normal range.

I'd also say the load order isn't problematic. Nothing obviously wrong (at least nothing I noticed), not too fancy, rather "short".... At first glance it looks okay.

Do you use one of the (IMHO almost mandatory) "fixes" mods?
SSE Engine fixes or SSE fixes? If not, maybe worth a try. Choose one or the other. In fact, you can even use both together.

 

Also make sure you did the usual checks: Verify game files in Steam, doublechek you got the right version of SKSE, updated mods dependent on SKSE (e.g. Racemenu).

If that doesn't help, it is probably a mod issue. Unfortunately things like these are really hard to pin down. I'm adding a list of mods I DON'T have. Maybe the culprit is one of them (or a combination of them):

 

7 7 Heels Sound.esm
9 9 RaceCompatibility.esm
254 FE 0 [COCO]ChristmasGift.esp
254 FE 1 [COCO]Bikini Collection.esp
254 FE 2 [COCO]Student_Uniform.esp
254 FE 3 TBD - DibellaBikini.esp
13 d ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
254 FE 4 Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp
15 f tpos_ultimate_esm.esp
16 10 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
17 11 Skyrim Unbound.esp
18 12 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
19 13 Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
22 16 Water for ENB.esp
24 18 Immersive Patrols II.esp
26 1a Playable Non-Playable Armor.esp
27 1b Invisible_Helmet.esp
28 1c GPRuins.esp
254 FE 5 Skyrim Unbound - Option - Female.esp
254 FE 6 Natural Interface.esp
30 1e Footprints.esp
31 1f Unconscious.esp
32 20 TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
33 21 WetandCold.esp
36 24 EBT - IC PATCH.esp
37 25 KS Dragon Overhaul.esp
254 FE 7 KSHairdosSMP.esp
38 26 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
39 27 RFCharacterOverhaul.esp
40 28 RFCharacterOverhaul_USSEP.esp
41 29 SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrimSE.esp
44 2c dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp
46 2e RSChildren.esp
47 2f ERF - Futanari CBBE - Equippable.esp
48 30 SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp
51 33 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
53 35 Dead Body Collision.esp
54 36 SOS - Shop.esp
55 37 ArrowInTheEverywhere_Med_Longer.esp
56 38 Open Cities Skyrim.esp

 

 

[Mizu20]

Hey,

that's an interesting case. I looked at your save. According to "Fallrim Tools", it is clean. Nothing problematic at all. Although I got quite a different load order, I could also load your save without any issues. Me likes Dark Brotherhood Khajiit with Krosis... :geek:

 

So, technically the save game seems fine. At least there's no apparant issue with it. There's also no save game bloat. The size is well within the normal range.

I'd also say the load order isn't problematic. Nothing obviously wrong (at least nothing I noticed), not too fancy, rather "short".... At first glance it looks okay.

 

Do you use one of the (IMHO almost mandatory) "fixes" mods?

SSE Engine fixes or SSE fixes? If not, maybe worth a try. Choose one or the other. In fact, you can even use both together.

 

Also make sure you did the usual checks: Verify game files in Steam, doublechek you got the right version of SKSE, updated mods dependent on SKSE (e.g. Racemenu).

 

If that doesn't help, it is probably a mod issue. Unfortunately things like these are really hard to pin down. I'm adding a list of mods I DON'T have. Maybe the culprit is one of them (or a combination of them):

 

 

 

7 7 Heels Sound.esm

9 9 RaceCompatibility.esm

254 FE 0 [COCO]ChristmasGift.esp

254 FE 1 [COCO]Bikini Collection.esp

254 FE 2 [COCO]Student_Uniform.esp

254 FE 3 TBD - DibellaBikini.esp

13 d ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp

254 FE 4 Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp

15 f tpos_ultimate_esm.esp

16 10 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp

17 11 Skyrim Unbound.esp

18 12 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

19 13 Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp

22 16 Water for ENB.esp

24 18 Immersive Patrols II.esp

26 1a Playable Non-Playable Armor.esp

27 1b Invisible_Helmet.esp

28 1c GPRuins.esp

254 FE 5 Skyrim Unbound - Option - Female.esp

254 FE 6 Natural Interface.esp

30 1e Footprints.esp

31 1f Unconscious.esp

32 20 TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp

33 21 WetandCold.esp

36 24 EBT - IC PATCH.esp

37 25 KS Dragon Overhaul.esp

254 FE 7 KSHairdosSMP.esp

38 26 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp

39 27 RFCharacterOverhaul.esp

40 28 RFCharacterOverhaul_USSEP.esp

41 29 SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrimSE.esp

44 2c dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp

46 2e RSChildren.esp

47 2f ERF - Futanari CBBE - Equippable.esp

48 30 SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp

51 33 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

53 35 Dead Body Collision.esp

54 36 SOS - Shop.esp

55 37 ArrowInTheEverywhere_Med_Longer.esp

56 38 Open Cities Skyrim.esp

 

 

Thank you for your response! Yes the entire thing seems super odd to me... since I am also a modder myself I do thankfully know how to get behind some stuff

 

First, to answer your questions, yes, I did all the standard checks like SKSE ver. and game cache verifiying and also installed then engine fixes

 

 

Well I fixed it for now.. temporarely I suppose tho. What I did was, i took the onse save file from before (nr. 169), was going into the MCM menu and disabled the cloak stuff again and instead of leaving the nordic ruin I am in with this save, i used coc whiterun, saved and that apparently fixed the issue... I am able to continue playing

 

I am just weirded out on how this happens... I just got a new PC with really really good specs and then skyrim does this to me xD

 

And yeah... I always played melee in skyrim before and now I wanted to make a assasin-mage hybrid and it works great :D Thats what i love about elder scrolls, you can play the heck you want to, just amazing

 

I will try to adjust my load order to something more reasonable, again thank you for your fast response.. I will report back when the issue will occur again.. which probably will just be a question of time

Edited August 6, 2020 by Mizu20

[Algabar]

Glad you can play your character again. :cool:

 

And thanks for letting us know how you solved it. I'm keeping my fingers crossed the crashes won't happen again.

 

On a side note: Back in "Oldrim" days it was good practice to conclude a Skyrim session in an interior cell and save there. While the game SHOULD load any save made anywhere, interior cells put less stress on the engine while loading. I still always save in interior cells. Maybe not necessary, but I feel better this way....

[Mizu20]

Relateable, the creation engine is a bit wonky... I feel like regular gamebryo actually is better, I am working with regular gamebryo since over 10 years and never had weird issues with it.. only if it came to skyrim XD