CTD problem, no errors.

[dylanm03]

Hey, i recently installed skyrim again after a few months break from the game and i'm getting a lot of CTD's, they are completly random, there are no errors or any messages at all, i'm playing the game and suddenly i'm staring at the desktop, they could happen within a few seconds of loading the game or i could play for hours without any then it suddenly starts happening. I've never had this problem before, only had about 5-10 crashes in all the time i've played skyrim, where it happened about 30 times yesterday. The only thing that's changed from all the other times i've played is the mods, so i'm guessing that's the issue.

 

Spec:

 

CPU - i5 3570k

GPU - MSI 7950 3GB (has latest drivers installed.)

RAM - 8gb

 

Game settings are at ultra.

 

Mod list:

 

 

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

JSwords.esm

moonpath.esm

SPIKE.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Clanking Armor.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-VanillaNights-Lvl-1.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

BirdsHFclean.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp

skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Footprints.esp

Ket_PictureLoadscreens.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

Cloaks.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp

XAC.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

Quest: And the Realms of Daedra

Places: Granitehall

moonpath_questdata.esp

Quest: No Mercy

Faction: Pit Fighter

Quest: Sorcery

Quest: Sea Of Ghosts -Ultimate Edition-

Quest:The Bigger The Are

Distant DetailHF.esp

Headtracking.esp

smash locks and more.esp

Places: Amber Guard

Places: Laintar Dale -Hearthfire Edition_

Places: Oakwood -Hearthfire Edition-

Unique Region Names.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp

Crimson Tide - Blood.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp

SkyRe_Combat.esp

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

SkyRe_hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp

HothFollower.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp

CompanionValfar.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

SkyRe_Races.esp

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

EEO patch.esp

getSnowy.esp

WATER.esp

ReProccer.esp

Phenderix's Ultimate Magic System.esp

Hearthfire multiple adoptions

Lakeview Manor Exterior Enhancements |v. 1.1

 

 

This is also the load order, i used boss to sort it out.

 

I've tried multiple different fixes that i've seen online, like changing sound quality to 44100Hz and shadow quality to High or lower but they didn't work.

Edited January 30, 2013 by dylanm03

[dylanm03]

I cleaned all the dirty mods and played for about 30 mins without a crash but then it happened when i tried to enter helgen keep. I don't think the area is the problem though as i loaded the save and tried to enter again and there was no problems.

 

Boss Log:

 

 

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

Dawnguard.esm Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

HearthFires.esm Active

ApachiiHair.esm Active

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active

JSwords.esm Active

moonpath.esm Active

SPIKE.esm Active

HighResTexturePack01.esp Active

HighResTexturePack02.esp Active

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active

Clanking Armor.esp Active

ClimatesOfTamriel-VanillaNights-Lvl-1.esp Active

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Active

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active

BirdsHFclean.esp Active

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp Active

skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp Active

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active

Convenient Horses.esp Active

Footprints.esp Active

Ket_PictureLoadscreens.esp Active

SkyUI.esp Active

iHUD.esp Active

Cloaks.esp Active

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp Active

XAC.esp Active

Note: This is the SkyRe compatible version.

Dr_Bandolier.esp Active

quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp Active

tos_granitehall.esp Active

moonpath_questdata.esp Active

quest_nomercy.esp Active

quest_pitfighter.esp Active

quest_sorcery.esp Active

quest_seaofghosts.esp Active

quest_thebiggertheyare.esp Active

Distant DetailHF.esp Active

Headtracking.esp Active

smash locks and more.esp Active

tos_amber_guard.esp Active

tos_laintardale_hf.esp Active

tos_oakwood_hf.esp Active

Unique Region Names.esp Active

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active

Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks_Dawnguard.esp

Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp

The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp Active

Crimson Tide - Blood.esp Active

SkyRe_Main.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}

Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.

Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'

Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.

Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:

Note: [Actor]

Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

Note: [Combat]

Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

SkyRe_Combat.esp Active

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active

SkyRe_hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Active

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Active

HothFollower.esp Active

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active

Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active

CompanionValfar.esp Active

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active

SkyRe_Races.esp Active

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp Active

Incompatible with: SkyRe Races. A compatibility patch is available here.

EEO patch.esp Active

getSnowy.esp Active

WATER.esp Active

ReProccer.esp Active

 

 

Anyone have any idea what could be causing this?

[gamefever]

 

 

Crimson Tide - Blood.esp

-very out of date

-No way this will be crash free with your Dlc's

 

moonpath.esm

-Known to cause issue's to worldspace

-I don't even put stuff in my game that is known to do that so pull it

 

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

-Likely your using a texture replacer if yes then uncheck these

 

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

-You are using a replacer for texures

-Those textures are 2048 and 4096 in this package here

-Increases Polygon counts in towns up to 200K faces for just "rope"

-Don't be fooled that will lag performance and cause Ctd's for most of us

-Taxing

 

WATER.esp

-Water is the most intense eye Candy modification

-Does not matter which Beth game you pick this is always so

-This ramps up the Polycounts

-Uses textures of 2048 and higher

-Consider this a very TAXING MOD

Distant DetailHF.esp

-When a LOD mod uses an ESP they do so to force, more effects

-It's not really nessecary this ussually can be done by just putting them in the relevant folders as "replacers"

-Likely a crash issue with SMIM

 

smash locks and more.esp

-I believe SKYRE already implements this

-Conflict likely with SkyRe

 

Examples of Read/Write Hungry Mods in your Load Order

-These mods by themselves function fine but together leaves you with little resources to keep a stable game enviroment

BirdsHFclean.esp

skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Footprints.esp

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp

getSnowy.esp

 

Lesser Demanding Script mods

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

Headtracking.esp

 

Spells use scripts and specail FX

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp <---Not sure if this is up to 1.8 version anyway so thats a probelm

Phenderix's Ultimate Magic System.esp <---Never heard of it

 

Quests Make in game Engine Calls also a lite Tax if done properly

Quest: And the Realms of Daedra

Quest: No Mercy

Faction: Pit Fighter

Quest: Sorcery

Quest: Sea Of Ghosts -Ultimate Edition-

Quest:The Bigger The Are

 

Locations-Problem becuase most new modders will make one, easy to delete stuff casues problems in game

-This means you have to check these for

-Deleted refs

-repeated references

-Deleted NavMeshes

-Use TesV edit to check these

Places: Granitehall

Places: Amber Guard

Places: Laintar Dale -Hearthfire Edition_

Places: Oakwood -Hearthfire Edition-

Lakeview Manor Exterior Enhancements |v. 1.1

 

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

-Skyre probably modifies Key quest data entries that will not work with this

-My solution I don't use Skyre

-I don't use hefty overhuals like Skyre

-Reasoning is Hefty overhual's leave very little room for compatibility

-IE makes it harder to try out new stuff on a whim.

BTW

This is specifically why you crash in Helgon

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

EEO patch.esp

-If you are using Reproccuer appropriately you do not need a patch for the armor

 

Your Companions need to come after UFO

 

 

 

If it looks like I've basically said your LO won't work it's becuase it won't work

 

You need Wyre Bash program

-Need that to make Leveled List Patches

-Ensures weapons and armor downloads appear properly in game

Edited January 30, 2013 by gamefever

[hentaishinri]

Okay, I had similar issues

and I started a thread

and user ripple helped me SO much

so if you want, you can browse through the thread

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/889117-ctd-without-a-cause/

and you can follow his instructions on how to do things properly.

It helped me a lot, i don't have CTD's anymore

there is also another thing you can try

you can read here

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/4192

that could help too

good luck :)

[dylanm03]

I'm going to disable some of the mods and see if that helps, about texture packs, i used the Texture Pack Combiner with all the main packs plus a few optionals like lush trees, grass etc, should i disable the official texture pack if i use this? I've also tried creating a bashed patch but can't seem to get it to work, i highlight all the mods and click "Mark Mergeable", but it says none of the mods are mergeable and doesn't do anything.

[gamefever]

Bash Patch is pretty much self automated.

 

I don't have the texture packs checked or even the DLCtex pack fix...Why

 

Becuase I intalled textures from the Nexus, so why have an ESP taking load order space up?

 

I'm OCD about getting unessentail stuff out of the game. Like say I download a really cool armor. I use PCEAr player character exclusive armor replacer, I replace the Steel Armor and blam no more need for the ESP of an armor that was never balanced for the game.

 

For action games just keep the textures under 1024.

-Higher performance

-Less crashes

-More kickin butt