Skyrim crashes at character creation screen

[skorpionss]

So I just installed Skyrim again, updated to last version and installed both Hearthfire and Dawnguard and a few mods and when I tried playing it crashed at char screen ...

 

Can you guys take a look over what mods I am using and tell me if any of them could be causing the problem, cause from what I've seen it seems to be ApachiiHair's problem but I am unsure :-?

 

I added an image of the mods I am running so please, take a look and leave me a comment/PM if u have any ideas... I've spent too many hours already downloading, installing and tyring to see what the problem is and my patience reached it's limit for today... will try again in the weekend based off your guy's suggestions.

Edited January 31, 2013 by skorpionss

[ripple]

Can you post your BOSS log instead? Along with messages and a list of any esp's not recognized by BOSS. Copy/paste here and enclose in a spoiler tag. Edited January 31, 2013 by ripple

[skorpionss]

Can you post your BOSS log instead? Along with messages and a list of any esp's not recognized by BOSS. Copy/paste here and enclose in a spoiler tag.

 

 

SKSE Version: 0.1.6.6

Fuz Ro D'oh.dll Version: 5.1.6.112

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

 

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 52 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

Dawnguard.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 602 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

HearthFires.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

ApachiiHair.esm Active

ApachiiHairFemales.esm Active

RaceCompatibility.esm Active

BBLuxurySuite.esm Active

Evil Lair of Hydra.esm Active

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esm Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

SPIKE.esm Active

WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 66 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

XFLMain.esm Active

Incompatible with: UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

Note: For safe mod uninstall see special uninstallation instructions on mod page.

HighResTexturePack01.esp Active

HighResTexturePack02.esp Active

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Note: Recommend to use the Unofficial Dawnguard Patch in addition to Dawnguard. This is need for correct work with Dawnguard.

Farquar's Girl Gwendolyn.esp Active

NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp Active

SkyUI.esp Active

Angelic_Demonic.esp Active

BBLSspouse.esp Active

FlameAtronachArmor.esp Active

Requires: CBBE female body.

FullBootForKKSA.esp Active

Requires: CBBE female body.

Remodeled Armor.esp Active

Remodeled Armor - addon.esp Active

Silverlight Armor.esp Active

SuccubusCBBE3GiftByNausicaa.esp Active

DeadlyDragons.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

DeadlyMonsters.esp Active

BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp Active

BBLSMotseerOutfits.esp Active

BBLSmusic.esp Active

BBLSapachii.esp Active

Reaper's The Dark Tower.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 17 ITM, 9 UDR record. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

WARZONES - Forsworn Variation.esp Active

Immersive Weapons.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

Better Vampires ML.esp Active

ASX_Spells.esp Active

FNISspells.esp Active

SummonSuccubus.esp Active

ASX_Potions.esp Active

ACE Realistic Fighting.esp Active

Horsemen.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 24 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

Horsemen Combat Enhancement.esp Active

ACE BYOG.esp Active

ACE Speech.esp Active

ACE Archery.esp Active

ACE Armor.esp Active

ACE Enchanting.esp Active

ACE Magic.esp Active

ACE Melee.esp Active

ACE Smithing.esp Active

ACE Synergy.esp Active

OrientalRace.esp Active

XFLDialogue.esp Active

Incompatible with: UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

XFLPlugins.esp Active

Incompatible with: UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active

Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active

UFO - AllwaysDrawWeapons.esp Active

HousecarlBeauties.esp Active

SMSkyrim.esp Active

Companion_Ari.esp Active

BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp Active

BBLSVisitors.esp Active

BBLuxurySuiteClassier.esp Active

SGFChastity.esp Active

SGFEris.esp Active

SGFKodelia.esp Active

SGFLucretia.esp Active

SGFSabeena.esp Active

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Argonian.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Breton.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - DarkElf.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - HighElf.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Imperial.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Khajiit.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Nord.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - ORC.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - RedGuard.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - WoodElf.esp Active

PC Exclusive Animation Path - 0- Main.esp Active

 

The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.

 

SummerWear.esm Active

BBLuxurySuiteClassierDisplayRoom.esp Active

Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp Active

SummerWearSA.esp Active

SummerWearBBLS.esp Active

 

 

 

anyway I am going to sleep now will try tomoorow with a fresh install, if you can leave me an order in which I should install them it'd be great, maybe I installed in wrong order or something... anyway I will document each move tomorrow and post if it worked or not.

Edited January 31, 2013 by skorpionss

[ripple]

1) Cleaning: BOSS has informed you of a number of issues with the plugins in your load order, so download TES5Edit from that link and follow the instruction on the page to clean the esp's flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits.'

 

2)

XFLMain.exm

XFLDialogue.esp Active

Incompatible with: UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

XFLPlugins.esp Active

Incompatible with: UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

 

3) Try the low-res version of SkyHair and see if you can create a character without crashing.

 

4) If you are going to do a clean reinstall, use the Mod Organizer instead of the NMM. MO does not install mod files directly into the game data folder, so no files are ever overwritten. Then you don't have to worry about installing mods (especially texture replacers) in the 'wrong order.'

[skorpionss]

1) Cleaning: BOSS has informed you of a number of issues with the plugins in your load order, so download TES5Edit from that link and follow the instruction on the page to clean the esp's flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits.'

 

2)

XFLMain.exm

XFLDialogue.esp Active

Incompatible with: UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

XFLPlugins.esp Active

Incompatible with: UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

 

3) Try the low-res version of SkyHair and see if you can create a character without crashing.

 

4) If you are going to do a clean reinstall, use the Mod Organizer instead of the NMM. MO does not install mod files directly into the game data folder, so no files are ever overwritten. Then you don't have to worry about installing mods (especially texture replacers) in the 'wrong order.'

 

Couldn't sleep so tried installing with Mod Organizer but after installing everything skyrim crashes on launch >.< as in windows error ...

 

hmm fixed that by checking all BSA boxes but now it just crashes when starting the game xD ...

 

also some mods are grayed out coz they have a weird archive structure that apparently doesn't work well with MO... such as ApachiiSkyHair...

Edited February 1, 2013 by skorpionss

[ripple]

I don't have an issue with installing SkyHair using MO. Try and install a handful of mods (say 5) then test to see if everything is working in game, then install another 5. Use something like 'Quick Start' to skip the Helgan tutorial.

[skorpionss]

I don't have an issue with installing SkyHair using MO. Try and install a handful of mods (say 5) then test to see if everything is working in game, then install another 5. Use something like 'Quick Start' to skip the Helgan tutorial.

 

this is what it says when trying to install it ...

 

Okay so I tried only installing some mods:

 

FNIS, PC Exclusive Animation Path, XP32 Maximum Skeleton, ApachiiSkyHair, Enhanced Char Edit, CHSBHC, CBBE, Fair Skin Complexion With Sweaty Body, Better Males, Adult Show, Ashen Race and the Unofficial skyrim/dawnguard Patch ... and it crashes when trying to switch from male to female in char edit ...

Edited February 1, 2013 by skorpionss

[ripple]

You get the 'No game data on top level' message because you are trying to 'manually install' the mod package in MO. Manual install should only be done when inevitable and when you know what you are doing (otherwise, query for info then install automatically). The message is telling you that the archive has an unconventional directory structure. It actually doesn't, but this is the general MO message for 'so...what do you wanna do?'

 

Look for a data folder in the archive, right click on it and select 'set as data....' (or something to that effect). The message should change from red to a green 'everything looks ok' (or something to that effect). Then you can install it.

 

CTD or game lockup in showracemenu: this is well know and widely reported issue with Skyrim. It's caused by using too many cosmetic mods (not just hair mods), including body retextures and remeshes (e.g. all the body replacers and their hi res retextured skins), custom races and their custom body meshes and skins, and so on. One way to attempt to mitigate this issue is to use low-res versions of those textures for character creation, then install the hi-res versions after you are done.

Edited February 1, 2013 by ripple

[skorpionss]

I see, but how do I make FNIS work with MO ? doesn't it need to be in the data folder where all the mods should be ... so it can patch them or does it work from the MO mods directory too ?

 

Anyway I'm gonna give it a try now.

[ripple]

Two ways to use FNIS with MO:

 

1) You can install FNIS externally (move the FNISForUser executable to it's appropriate directory in the game data folder, it is an 'utility' after all and all utilities should be installed manually rather than using a mod manager). You will then need to set up the FNISForUser.exe as an executable in MO (one of the top left menu buttons). Then you can run FNIS in MO (right top drop down menu).

 

2) Install FNIS like a mod through MO. Click on 'data' on the right window of MO, which allows you to navigate the 'virtual data folder.' Find FNIS in it's usual location, run FNIS for users.

Edited February 1, 2013 by ripple