Can't start game with mods

[CaineElysian]

Hi all people^^,

 

 

My PC:(dxdiag)

 

Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz

Memory: 3072MB RAM

GPU: : NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT

 

My BOSS log:

 

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 52 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

Dawnguard.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 602 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

HearthFires.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

ApachiiHairFemales.esm Active

RaceCompatibility.esm Active

EagleEyePerk_half_stamina.esm Active

Note: Use only one EagleEyePerk esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp Active

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

RevampedExteriorFog.esp Active

RemoveAmbientInteriorFog.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

Weapons and Armor fixes.esp Active

Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp Active

Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active

Character Creation Overhaul.esp Active

SkyUI.esp Active

Newermind Bow Collection.esp Active

Siege Bow & Backpacks.esp Active

AchieveThat.esp Active

CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp Active

CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 0 ITM, 24 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active

dD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active

Path of Shadows.esp Active

Sneak Tools.esp Active

Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp Active

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp Active

CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp Active

Glowing Eyes.esp Active

Glowing Vampire Eyes.esp Active

Krisan's Eyes.esp Active

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Active

LunariRace.esp Active

OrientalRace.esp Active

TemptressVixen.esp Active

Random Alternate Start.esp Active

RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp Active

CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp Active

Animated Weapon Enchants.esp Active

Glowtastic.esp Active

 

Skyrim.ini:

 

[General]

sLanguage=ENGLISH

 

uExterior Cell Buffer=36

 

[Display]

fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0

fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0

fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048

bAllowScreenshot=1

fNearDistance=3

fDefault1stPersonFOV=80

 

[Audio]

fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0

fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0

fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0

fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

 

[Grass]

bAllowCreateGrass=1

bAllowLoadGrass=0

 

[GeneralWarnings]

SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

 

[Archive]

sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa

sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

 

[Combat]

fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=-21.0

 

[Papyrus]

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0

bEnableLogging=0

bEnableTrace=0

bLoadDebugInformation=0

[Water]

bReflectLODObjects=0

bReflectLODLand=0

bReflectSky=0

bReflectLODTrees=0

 

 

SkyrimPrefs.ini:

 

[General]

fBrightLightColorB=1.0000

fBrightLightColorG=1.0000

fBrightLightColorR=1.0000

iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1

bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0

[imagespace]

bDoDepthOfField=1

iRadialBlurLevel=0

[Display]

iBlurDeferredShadowMask=0

fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000

fShadowDistance=2000

iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048

iShadowSplitCount=2

iMaxAnisotropy=1

fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000

fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000

fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=0

fGamma=1.0000

iShadowFilter=3

fDecalLOD2=1500.0000

fDecalLOD1=1000.0000

fSpecularLODStartFade=500

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fLightLODStartFade=1000

iTexMipMapMinimum=0

iTexMipMapSkip=0

bTransparencyMultisampling=0

iWaterMultiSamples=0

iMultiSample=1

iShadowMode=3

bTreesReceiveShadows=0

bDrawLandShadows=0

bDrawShadows=1

bFull Screen=1

iSize H=800

iSize W=1280

fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000

fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=3072

fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=4096

iScreenShotIndex=2

bShadowMaskZPrepass=0

bMainZPrepass=0

iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=0

iMaxDecalsPerFrame=0

sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT "

bFXAAEnabled=0

iShadowMapResolution=512

fShadowBiasScale=0.5

iShadowMaskQuarter=3

iAdapter=0

iPresentInterval=0

bFloatPointRenderTarget=1

bShadowsOnGrass=1

bDeferredShadows=1

[Grass]

b30GrassVS=1

fGrassStartFadeDistance=3000

fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000

fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000

[Water]

iWaterReflectHeight=512

iWaterReflectWidth=512

bUseWaterDisplacements=1

bUseWaterRefractions=1

bUseWaterReflections=1

bUseWaterDepth=1

[MAIN]

bGamepadEnable=1

bCrosshairEnabled=1

fHUDOpacity=1.0000

bSaveOnPause=1

bSaveOnTravel=1

bSaveOnWait=1

bSaveOnRest=1

fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000

[GamePlay]

bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1

bShowQuestMarkers=1

iDifficulty=2

[interface]

bDialogueSubtitles=1

bGeneralSubtitles=1

bShowCompass=1

fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000

[Controls]

fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000

fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125

bAlwaysRunByDefault=1

bInvertYValues=0

bGamePadRumble=1

bMouseAcceleration=1

bUseKinect=0

[Particles]

iMaxDesired=750

[saveGame]

fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000

[AudioMenu]

fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000

fVal7=1.0000

uID7=0

fVal6=1.0000

uID6=0

fVal5=1.0000

uID5=0

fVal4=1.0000

uID4=0

fVal3=0.5000

uID3=466532

fVal2=0.8000

uID2=554685

fVal1=0.8000

uID1=1007612

fVal0=1.0000

uID0=94881

[Clouds]

fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000

fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000

fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000

fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000

[TerrainManager]

fTreeLoadDistance=12500

fBlockMaximumDistance=75000

fBlockLevel1Distance=25000

fBlockLevel0Distance=15000

fSplitDistanceMult=0.4

bShowLODInEditor=0

[NavMesh]

fObstacleAlpha=0.5000

fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000

fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500

fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000

fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500

fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000

fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000

fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500

fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000

fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000

fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000

fEdgeThickness=10.0000

fPointSize=2.5000

[Trees]

bRenderSkinnedTrees=1

uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20

[Decals]

uMaxDecals=0

bDecals=0

bSkinnedDecals=0

uMaxSkinDecals=0

uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=0

[LOD]

fLODFadeOutMultObjects=2.5

fLODFadeOutMultItems=3.5

fLODFadeOutMultActors=2.5

fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000

[Launcher]

bEnableFileSelection=1

bShowAllResolutions=0

uLastAspectRatio=4

[blurShaderHDR]

bDoHighDynamicRange=1

[blurShader]

bUseBlurShader=0

 

 

I use the following tools:

 

-NMM (Never done manual installing)

-BOSS (I don't know what the "Delev, Relev tags" mean. )

 

 

In character creation menu, when i change to a mod race like Obscuri, Temptress, etc. it gets frozen and sometimes force close.

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My questions:

 

1) Is there anything I can do to decrease/fix the issues I'm experiencing?

2) Is my low end PC causing the issues? Or am I just using too much mods?

3) Any general advice to make my game more stable?

 

Any additional advice in general is always welcome.

[bben46]

First guess - you added most of these mods at one time and now have no clue which ones are causing problems.

It's best to add mods one at a time and test between each mod - that way when you have a problem you know which mod caused it and can usually fix it quickly.

One possibility is the video card does not have the vram to handle that many mods all at once. 1G of VRAM is pretty much required for any video enhancing mods. And 2G is getting more and more needed. For a possible check, try reducing the video resolution to the lowest value and see if it can start then.

 

Your 3G of system ram should be OK

 

Do any of your mods require SKSE? If so and it is not being started before the game - that can cause an instant crash.

Do any of you esp mods require an esm that is not being loaded? That is guaranteed to cause a crash on load.

 

This warning could be a problem

Weapons and Armor fixes.esp Active

Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp Active

Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

 

Here is a link to my troubleshooting blog.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/bbenlibrary/topic/4751769/1/#new

This is updated from time to time so come back later for more.

 

If you use any of this and have some success - or even if nothing works - please post back here what you did that worked or didn't work. That kind of information can be invaluable to other members having the same or similar problems - And to me in fixing any problems in the blog.

[CaineElysian]

Thanks for you answer bben46.

I'll try with disabling all race mods and weapon and armor fix files once more. Before I've formatted my pc, Skyrim with all mods running so smooth. If you figured out I don't use any graphic enhancer like ENB.

I don't know why its doing this.

[ripple]

1) Clean the plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits.' Download TES5Edit and follow the instructions on that page.

 

2) You don't need to disable 'Weapons and Armor fixes', you just need to download and install the updated fix patch from that link.

 

You said that you 'Can't start game with mods', can you elaborate on the symptom? Do you CTD after the logo? When you attempt to reload an old save? When you attempt to start a new game? You also mentioned you reformatted your HDD. How did you reinstall your mods? Complete reinstall of copy from a data folder backup? As much detail as you can provide.

Edited February 3, 2013 by ripple

[CaineElysian]

Well, Dawnguard and Heartfire itself says in BOSS 'dirty edits' ?

And sorry but what's CTD ? Close To Desktop or something? If it is, my answer is no because after i choose a modded race game is stuck.

And about that format thing, no backup just downloaded them again from Skyrimnexus itself. =)