CTD near Riverwood/Whiterun area

cptnjarhead · February 6, 2013

" I use the AI Suite(thermal radar) that comes with the driver disk for the mobo and have set the case fans and CPU fan to "Turbo" setting, also yesterday I grabbed a new heatsink/fan for the CPU and idle at 40'C and maxs at 52'C, I have a light OC on my Vid card but OC or not the game crashes still the same. "

Well, guess that rules that out.

Edited February 6, 2013 by cptnjarhead

KaizerFaust · February 7, 2013

Recommend you trim the list before a full reinstall. Get rid of SkyTest. It's prone to causing CTDs when placed in a large load order. Anything that adds more spawns and spawn points to the worldspace will make worldspace travel more unstable (how much more depends on what they add and how much of it they add). It's not a problem with the mods but a limitation of the engine. If your CTDs are mostly outdoors, then they are the likely culprits. The usual mods that contribute to worldspace instability are SkyTest and Warzones.

You should just remove the optional cloak plugins (unless you actually want to deprive NPCs of cloaks). Disabling them means they won't be loaded, but they are being scanned when the game loads and there is no reason to extend the game loading time. The Bashed Patch will handle merging conflicting leveled lists if necessary.

Have you managed to fix the issues of not being able to run BOSS through MO? Ifyou've switched to MO, basically all utilities, including SKSE, will need to be set up as an executable in MO and launched through MO so it will scan the 'virtual data folder' rather than the default game data folder (which should only contain the default game BSAs and BSM's after a clean install).

Not sure how to remove the optional cloak plugins as they are installed with the main file

I use BOSS after every mod installation.

I meant fix the errors presented by BOSS.

Yes, I fixed them and no change

Uninstalled/deleted Warzones and uninstalled Wars in Skyrim, made it into Riverwood killing a dragon on the way(from Whiterun), recruited Ria and the other 4 companions at the pub, on our way out we encounter vampires and begin battle with them, one of them is about to use a magic spell and the game freezes, beginning 2nd attempt.

2nd attempt, left pub in Riverwood, killed vampires, made it to the meadery and the game crashed.

Edited February 7, 2013 by KaizerFaust

ripple · February 7, 2013

Not sure how to remove the optional cloak plugins as they are installed with the main file

Just delete them from the data folder (or from the CoS mod folder if you are using the Mod Organizer). You can make backup first if you think that you might one day punish NPCs by making them cloak-less.

How many companions do you usually use? This may be the issue...

Edited February 7, 2013 by ripple

KaizerFaust · February 7, 2013

Not sure how to remove the optional cloak plugins as they are installed with the main file

Just delete them from the data folder (or from the CoS mod folder if you are using the Mod Organizer). You can make backup first if you think that you might one day punish NPCs by making them cloak-less.

How many companions do you usually use? This may be the issue...

Just 2(Ria and Lydia) lol, I'm certain I was crashing before I installed the mod Girls of Skyrim.

I've already uninstalled and reinstalled the game following a guide I found here, I guess I just install what I had and go from there?

ripple · February 7, 2013

If you are going to reinstall mods, I recommend you use the Mod Organizer instead of the NMM. Since MO does not install mods directly into the game data folder but keep them in their own isolated folders, you won't ever need to reinstall the game to clean out mod files or worry about the installation order for mods with conflicting files (you can adjust installation order in MO just as easily as adjusting load order of plugins). It's not as easy to set up as NMM, primarily because you need to set up third party utilities like BOSS, TES5Edit, Wrye Bash, SKSE, etc. as executables in MO so that they will scan MO's 'virtual data folder' instead of the default game data folder. The rest is more or less intuitive.

KaizerFaust · February 7, 2013

If you are going to reinstall mods, I recommend you use the Mod Organizer instead of the NMM. Since MO does not install mods directly into the game data folder but keep them in their own isolated folders, you won't ever need to reinstall the game to clean out mod files or worry about the installation order for mods with conflicting files (you can adjust installation order in MO just as easily as adjusting load order of plugins). It's not as easy to set up as NMM, primarily because you need to set up third party utilities like BOSS, TES5Edit, Wrye Bash, SKSE, etc. as executables in MO so that they will scan MO's 'virtual data folder' instead of the default game data folder. The rest is more or less intuitive.

Reinstalling mods, lets hope for the best

Am I unable to edit mods in MO's mod folder with Creation Kit? I noticed that Lydia had her stock hair but everything else was according the mod, went into Creation kit opened that mod up and it had the hair she was supposed to have installed already.

EDIT: The Creation Kit must be launched from MO to edit the mods that are in its mod folder.

EDIT: The game still crashed, this is driving me nuts, maybe its my Nvidia control panel profile

Edited February 8, 2013 by KaizerFaust

ripple · February 8, 2013

Where did you CTD? How long was your game session or did it CTD during the load up? Any patterns? What does your load order look like now, did you trim the mod list and handle the plugins not recognized by BOSS?

KaizerFaust · February 9, 2013

Where did you CTD? How long was your game session or did it CTD during the load up? Any patterns? What does your load order look like now, did you trim the mod list and handle the plugins not recognized by BOSS?

It crashed around Riverwood initially, but after a bunch of farting around it now crashes East of Whiterun where the Bathing Beauties Luxury Suite is consistently. I managed to get close enough this time to see that NPCs there didn't have their hair or clothing loading, the hair and clothing was the right shape but was some kind of blue/white color which I assume means its missing textures or is it meshes?

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KaizerFaust · February 11, 2013

I seem to crash less now, but can still end up crashing or freezing, just less often, I noticed the wordwall issue is probably the most common offender in my Papyrus, this is the end of the log, whats causing the wordwall issue and at the end of the log, is it saying I crtashed because I ran out of VRAM?

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