Need Help With CTD

[bungweasel7]

Okay, so here's what's happening: I started a new game after a long time of not playing. I get through the whole intro deal, escape to Riverwood, and begin travelling to Whiterun. Then, all of a sudden, I get a CTD. Every single time, I get to about the same point and it crashes. This all started yesterday. Today, I spent about 4 hours at work and probably 8 hours at home trying to figure out what the problem is. I am desperately looking for help from anybody who can tell me what is wrong. Thanks in advance!

 

Here is my load order:

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Deus Mons.esm

EagleEyePerk.esm

JSwords.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

Omegared99-Compilation.esm

SkyMoMod.esm

SPIKE.esm

WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm

WinterholdDestruction.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

randomthunder.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Weathers.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Dawnguard Weathers.esp

Fantasy Music Overhaul.esp

Weapons and Armor fixes.esp

Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp

EternalTorch.esp

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp

People Have Torches.esp

PerkPointPotion.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_vampire.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_mage.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_bandit.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_draugr.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_forsworn.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_animal.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_falmer.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_dwerven.esp

SkyMoMod Extras Collectables.esp

useablesawmill.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Footprints.esp

SkyRealism - Simple Save System - 10 min.esp

WetandCold.esp

SkyUI.esp

Armor of the Dragon Child.esp

Armor of Justice.esp

Black Overlord Armor Set.esp

Blindfolds_of_Skyrim.esp

Cloaks.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

Evil MasterMind Armor.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp

Minotaur_Skin.esp

Moar Kontent.esp

Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp

Standard-15Percent.esp

OrcishMaskedHelmet.esp

Ritual Armor of Boethiah.esp

SilverDragonArmor.esp

Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp

TMasks-JudgmentDay.esp

Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp

Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp

UltraVision.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

Dr_BandolierDG.esp

BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp

BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp

Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul - BS version.esp

Monster Wars.esp

Deus Mons_WithNPCs.esp

HallsOfDovahndor.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

whiterunMarket.esp

WhiterunFortified.esp

WhiterunREVISION.esp

RRBetterWhiterunInt.esp

Masters of Death.esp

AchieveThat.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Weightless).esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Weightless).esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp

CloseFaceRobesAndHelm.esp

getdrunk.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

ImprovedScImpUniforms - Main.esp

NoSpiders - SkyMoMod.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dawnguard-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp

Soul Gems Differ - NW - E.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp

ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp

Hunting in Skyrim.esp

Predator Vision.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp

NoSneakAttackSound.esp

The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

Henrys All Animals and Creatures BeFriend.esp

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

Cartographers Map Markers.esp

Compatibility patch - PHT, IA, CoS & WIC.esp

Compatibility patch - PHT, CoS, WIC IA.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

Slow Time Hotkey.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - RLO.esp

wyldtats.esp

Sorcerer Renamer.esp

anellento.esp

 

 

 

If you would like any additional information, I would be glad to post it. Thanks again!

 

EDIT:And yeah, I know I have a ton of mods. I already uninstalled and reinstalled each of them a couple of times. I have no clue what else to do.

Edited February 5, 2013 by bungweasel7

[earthbomb70]

Honestly from my experience, if you disabled all mods, and it still did it, you may have left over dtata from a previous mod or something conflicting with your current mods or save.. Have you tried downloading Boss and running it? It's pretty handy. I would give that a shot mate, or if it was a steam purchase, try veryifying the integrity of the game cache option. In Steam Library, Right click Skyrim>Properties>Local Files>Verify Integrity.

 

P.S Do you 'REALLY' need

 

-Run For Your Lives

-Predator Vision

-Perk Point Potion

-Get Drunk

-Hunting in Skyrim

 

And all them Whiterun mods? Just sayin mate.

 

But try out Boss and see if it works.

Edited February 5, 2013 by earthbomb70

[NemesisTheWarlock]

Check out this topic you'll probably find answers here, good luck!

[ripple]

Can you replace your load order with your BOSS log (with the messages)? Include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated.

[bungweasel7]

Thank you all for replying! And sorry for the delayed response.

 

@earthbomb70: I use BOSS every time I install a new mod, but thanks for the suggestion! Also, do I really "need" any mods? :wink:

 

@NemesisTheWarlock: Thanks for showing me this thread! However, all the methods didn't seem to work.

 

@ripple: Here you go:

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 73 ITM, 1 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

Dawnguard.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 607 ITM, 82 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

HearthFires.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

Deus Mons.esm Active

EagleEyePerk.esm Active

Note: Use only one EagleEyePerk esm

JSwords.esm Active

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active

Omegared99-Compilation.esm Active

SkyMoMod.esm Active

Note: This is the Original SkyMoMod - v9

SPIKE.esm Active

WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 66 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

WinterholdDestruction.esm Active

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active

Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active

randomthunder.esp Active

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp Active

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Active

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.esp Active

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Active

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Weathers.esp Active

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Dawnguard Weathers.esp Active

Fantasy Music Overhaul.esp Active

Weapons and Armor fixes.esp Active

Note: For 'WAF+SPO+CCO' users. No conflicts with 'Smithing Perks Overhaul' and 'Complete Crafting Overhaul'.(checked in FNVEdit)

Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp Active

EternalTorch.esp Active

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - RLO.esp Active

Note: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp.

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp Active

People Have Torches.esp Active

PerkPointPotion.esp Active

SkyMoMod_morespawns_vampire.esp Active

SkyMoMod_morespawns_mage.esp Active

SkyMoMod_morespawns_bandit.esp Active

SkyMoMod_morespawns_draugr.esp Active

SkyMoMod_morespawns_forsworn.esp Active

SkyMoMod_morespawns_animal.esp Active

SkyMoMod_morespawns_falmer.esp Active

SkyMoMod_morespawns_dwerven.esp Active

SkyMoMod Extras Collectables.esp Active

useablesawmill.esp Active

Convenient Horses.esp Active

Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp Active

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active

Footprints.esp Active

SkyRealism - Simple Save System - 10 min.esp Active

Note: Only use one SkyRealism - Simple Save System*.esp

WetandCold.esp Active

SkyUI.esp

Armor of the Dragon Child.esp Active

Armor of Justice.esp Active

Black Overlord Armor Set.esp Active

Blindfolds_of_Skyrim.esp Active

Cloaks.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

1nivWICCloaks.esp Active

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

Evil MasterMind Armor.esp Active

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp Active

Minotaur_Skin.esp Active

Moar Kontent.esp Active

Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp Active

Standard-15Percent.esp Active

Note: Use only one optional leveled list. (High, Medium, Standard or Uber)

OrcishMaskedHelmet.esp Active

Ritual Armor of Boethiah.esp Active

SilverDragonArmor.esp Active

Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp Active

TMasks-JudgmentDay.esp Active

Requires: Meshes and textures from Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam, esp usage optional.

Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp Active

Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp Active

UltraVision.esp Active

Dr_Bandolier.esp Active

Dr_BandolierDG.esp Active

BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp Active

BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp Active

Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp Active

Note: Does not contain unexpected (or out of order) records or TESVSnip truncation issues as found in other mods by various authors. However, a newer esp fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here that may provide added stability. (Compatibility Patch)

Complete Crafting Overhaul - BS version.esp Active

Note: Will conflict with mods that modify existing recipes.

Monster Wars.esp Active

Deus Mons_WithNPCs.esp Active

HallsOfDovahndor.esp Active

Run For Your Lives.esp Active

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Active

whiterunMarket.esp Active

WhiterunFortified.esp Active

WhiterunREVISION.esp Active

RRBetterWhiterunInt.esp Active

Masters of Death.esp Active

AchieveThat.esp Active

Requires: SkyUI 3.1+ Required

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Weightless).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Weightless).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp Active

CloseFaceRobesAndHelm.esp Active

getdrunk.esp Active

Immersive Weapons.esp Active

ImprovedScImpUniforms - Main.esp Active

Requires: WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp

NoSpiders - SkyMoMod.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 0 ITM, 2 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active

dD-Dawnguard-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp Active

Soul Gems Differ - NW - E.esp Active

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp Active

Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp Active

ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp Active

Hunting in Skyrim.esp Active

Predator Vision.esp Active

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Active

DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp Active

NoSneakAttackSound.esp Active

The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 7 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active

Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp Active

Henrys All Animals and Creatures BeFriend.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 40 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp Active

Cartographers Map Markers.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 281 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

Compatibility patch - PHT, IA, CoS & WIC.esp Active

Compatibility patch - PHT, CoS, WIC IA.esp Active

RaceMenu.esp Active

RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active

Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.

 

Unrecognized:

Slow Time Hotkey.esp Active

wyldtats.esp Active

Sorcerer Renamer.esp Active

anellento.esp Active

 

 

 

[ripple]

1) Download TES5Edit from that link, follow the instructions on the page, and clean the esm's and esp's flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits' (including the DLC and patch esm's).

 

2) The 4 esp's not recognized by BOSS will need to have their load order position arranged manually. Absolutely do not simple allow them to load at the end of the load order (which is where they go every time you run BOSS). The only reliable way to do this is to load them with the other esp's in TES5Edit and check their records to see if they conflict with any other plugins. If they do, you'll have to decide who should 'win' by loading the esp' higher or lower than the conflicting plugin. If they do not contain conflicting records with other esp's, you can load them anywhere above your compatibility patches. Once you've decided on their loading position, you can use the 'BOSS Userlist Manager' to set custom load order rules for them, so their loading position will not be reset every time you run BOSS.

 

3) This is unrelated to your CTD issue, but since you are using many 'give more stuff to NPCs' mods (e.g. cloaks of skyrim, WiC, immersive weapons, jaysus swords NPC distribution, etc.), you should use Wrye Bash to generate a Bashed Patch that will merge their conflicting leveled lists so the items will actually appear on the NPCs (needs a cell reset or a new game).

 

4) You mentioned you took some time away from Skyrim. It's very likely at least some of the mods you are using have updated since. So it's a good idea to check and download the updated versions if available.

 

5) You said you CTD every single time you try to travel from Riverwood to Whiterun. Is there a specific spot or just randomly along that route? Any particular patterns to the CTD (during combat, with followers, a particular creature or NPC with particular armour/weapons are encountered just before the CTD, things like that)?

Edited February 5, 2013 by ripple

[bungweasel7]

@ripple: Aight, I just cleaned the mods, made the bash patch, and got my load order in a way that the unrecognized mods should not be conflicting with anything. The CTD's continue, however. The CTD always occurs within 10 feet of the last one. I can provide a screenshot of the location if that helps. Also, I have a papyrus log of the events, but I have no idea how to interpret them.

 

 

 

EDIT: ripple, you are my freaking hero. I have never used TES5EDIT to clean mods, but, in doing so, I figured out that the mod causing all my problems was the Whiterun Outskirts Market mod. Thank you so much for introducing me to this great utility!

Edited February 6, 2013 by bungweasel7