Flummoxed by my discombobulated Skyrim

[Ainulindale]

Hi all, been trying to fix this for about a week now, basically I wanted a fresh start using the Frostfall and SkyRe mods, the first thing I did was delete everything (my games skyrim folder, data folder etc) and reinstall skyrim, then added the mods back in that I wanted with NMM (and using SKSE), load order below: (The vast majority of which I had been using before in my old game, bar SkyRe, Frostfall, W&C, Immersive HUD, Live Another Life, Expanded Cities & Towns). SKSE and skyrim are both the most up to date versions.

 

 

(0 -> 0)	Skyrim.esm
(1 -> 1)	Update.esm
(2 -> 2)	Dawnguard.esm
(3 -> 3)	Solitude A City Of Trade.esm
(4 -> 4)	SPIKE.esm
(5 -> 5)	WinterholdDestruction.esm
(6 -> 6)	ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
(7 -> 7)	Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
(8 -> 8)	Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
(9 -> 9)	Birds.esp
(10 -> 10)	Birdsofskyrim.esp
(11 -> 11)	Legionettes.esp
(12 -> 12)	People Have Torches.esp
(13 -> 13)	skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp
(14 -> 14)	Convenient Horses.esp
(15 -> 15)	Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
(16 -> 16)	Footprints.esp
(17 -> 17)	SkyUI.esp
(18 -> 18)	iHUD.esp
(19 -> 19)	1nivWICCloaks.esp
(20 -> 20)	hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
(21 -> 21)	BuildableHouse.esp
(22 -> 22)	ESFCompanions.esp
(23 -> 23)	My Home Is Your Home.esp
(24 -> 24)	SolitudeCapitalCity.esp
(25 -> 25)	treehouse.esp
(26 -> 26)	AchieveThat.esp
(27 -> 27)	AncientDBarmorTSedition.esp
(28 -> 28)	GauldurAmuletBoost.esp
(29 -> 29)	GuardDialogue50.esp
(30 -> 30)	Heavy Imperial Armor.esp
(31 -> 31)	Immersive Weapons.esp
(32 -> 32)	knc_resilient_dragons.esp
(33 -> 33)	stop-being-a-creepy-stalker-aerin-1-0-pingy.esp
(34 -> 34)	torches for realistic lighting.esp
(35 -> 35)	VariedGuards.esp
(36 -> 36)	ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp
(37 -> 37)	RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
(38 -> 38)	RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
(39 -> 39)	Better Vampires.esp
(40 -> 40)	WerewolfUpgrade.esp
(41 -> 41)	dovahkiinrelax.esp
(42 -> 42)	BatTravel.esp
(43 -> 43)	BeautifulAela.esp
(44 -> 44)	Mjoll.esp
(45 -> 45)	Mjoll_edit.esp
(46 -> 46)	AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
(47 -> 47)	SkyRe_Races.esp
(48 -> 48)	Timescale8.esp
(49 -> 49)	WetandCold.esp
(50 -> 50)	Chesko_Frostfall.esp
(51 -> 51)	WATER.esp
(52 -> 52)	WATER Plants.esp
(53 -> 53)	RND_Water-Patch.esp
(54 -> 54)	Follower Map Markers.esp
(55 -> 55)	Compatibility Patch - PHT WIC IA.esp
(56 -> 56)	RaceMenu.esp
(57 -> 57)	RaceMenuPlugin.esp
(58 -> 58)	ReProccer.esp
(59 -> 59)	Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp
(60 -> 60)	Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
(61 -> 61)	Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.esp
(62 -> 62)	Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
(63 -> 63)	Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Weathers.esp
(64 -> 64)	Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Dawnguard Weathers.esp
(65 -> 65)	SkyRe_Main.esp
(66 -> 66)	SkyRe_Combat.esp
(67 -> 67)	SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
(68 -> 68)	SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
(69 -> 69)	SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
(70 -> 70)	SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
(71 -> 71)	SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
(72 -> 72)	SkyRe_hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
(73 -> 73)	Replacer Visuals for Spell Effects.esp
(74 -> 74)	Forest Hideout.esp
(75 -> 75)	Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
(76 -> 76)	ETaC - Villages Complete.esp
(77 -> 77)	ETaC - Morthal.esp
(78 -> 78)	EzEWorldMap.esp

 

 

So I started a new game, will all of these active apart from Wet and Cold, and Expanded Towns an Cities, which I installed later while my character was nicely huddled up inside a cave east of Whiterun next to the corpse of that blind guy. Anyway, I followed that road north and east around towards Ivarstead, and the moment the game tried to inform me of the new location being found, I crashed to desktop. I reload the last save (approaching that troll by the river to the north of Ivarstead. This time i got as far as killing the troll (or at least Lydia did), then I tried mining that iron ore vein, nothing happens, try again, nothing, walk off to the cave the troll had been hidingin in, tried to harvest the nirnroot, nothing happens.. suddenly my character jumped back to the ore vein and mines it several times over (with a confused Lydia racing back to find me) and then another crash. Another reload and I get as far as shooting the troll a couple times before a crash. Fine, I try loading the previous save, further north near Valthiem Towers, i'm on horseback at this point. Any attempt to move however and my horse goes skidding off and up and floats with me sat nervously on its back as my otherwise trusty steed pinballs its way around the land before its inevitable death (and mine) at the hands of Gravity and A Hard Place.

 

Now these 2 saves seem to be completely bamboozled weather or not I activate Expanded Towns, Wet and Cold, or the Birds of Skyrim mod that i've read might conflict, nothing seems to prevent me either floating to my death or watching an angry troll crash my game. If anyone has any ideas i'm all ears, eyes, and various noses for any support.

 

Thanks!

 

EDIT: Ok, I loaded the save in the cave right after I installed Expanded Towns, and used the console to travel to Ivarstead, which loaded, mod working fine. I ran North down the hill and the moment I heard that troll it crashed to desktop again.

Edited February 6, 2013 by Ainulindale

[Ainulindale]

I've tracked down the issue, it was skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds, unchecking it allowed me to kill the troll, mine the ore, harvest the nirnroot, and mount my horse, ride into Ivarstead and stab Telma Wide-Face with no issues whatsoever (apart from the guards...). However skyBirds is awesome so i'm going to attempt a clean reinstall as the mod page suggests.

 

As for the mad horse issue, I sorted that by not moving, pressed dismount, waited a while for it to respond, then i could run around on my legs fine, remount, wait to respond again, then everything was fine. Might be an issue with the Convenient Horses multipress system but nothing game breaking and I'll have a play with its settings.