Mass Freezes And Crashes

[ArchAngelAlien]

I just needed to get that off my chest and rant to somebody. This is frustrating, but I have cleaned all my plugins. I removed identical to master files, and undeleted references (Or W/e it's called) to everything. I have been speaking back and forth with two mod authors that make compatibility patches with Reproccer as I seem to be getting some errors of weapon animations getting deleted. Such as refined silver weapons (Not sure which mod these are from, but I might have to edit these by hand) DLC01 (A new patch was released that should clean these up now) and a mod called crossbow basic collection. (One of the authors is making a patch for this).

 

I appreciate your help, I just.. needed to breath and take a break. I work from home, so I am able to work on this for hours on end nearly everyday. It just feels like I am getting nowhere. I feel like I am going to get this all straightened out and load the game and it's just going to crash again. I wish all these mods authors would create a package together, and charge donations for a download or something. Like a big immersive mod package that is maintained by them all for people who donate to enjoy. (Or something along those lines) I would pay for it in a heart beat.

 

I appreciate all the hard work people have done, but it just feels like I have to be a modder myself to understand this. You are right, this is all due to my own actions, too many mods = alot more work. On top of that Nexus Mod Manager does not display conflicting files, so if I was to make my own comparability patches, I have no information to see what files are conflicting besides doing some research. One mod I use that doesn't play well with others is SkyRE, but I cannot find any real solid information on what mods I shouldn't use with it.

 

I should of never casted MO to the side so quickly, but it was just another few days learning a new program, rather than playing. If I cannot get this sorted I will reinstall Skyrim fresh ( for the 4th time) and download Dragonborn and try MO again. For now.. I am just here reading things again and not sure which step to take. I really would like to know why this mod is giving me these errors.

 

Babettes Feast Balanced: ( - http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/5816 - )

 

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[00:08] Background Loader: loading "BabettesFeastBalanced.esp"...
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] Loading file
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] File loaded
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] Start processing
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] Adding master "Skyrim.esm"
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] Header processed. Expecting 35 records
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFFoodSpeechWeakness "Milk Drinker's Shame" [MGEF:0000100C] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] GRUP Top "MGEF" processed
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFFoodBouillabaisse "Wayrest Bouillabaisse" [ALCH:00001000] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFFoodBeerBatteredSpadetail "Beer Battered Spadetail" [ALCH:00001001] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFFoodVichyssoise "Jehannoise" [ALCH:00001002] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFFoodClamChowder "Haafingar Clam Chowder" [ALCH:00001003] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFFoodSnowberryPie "Snowberry Pie" [ALCH:00001005] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFFoodCoqAuVin "Coq Au Vin" [ALCH:00001006] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFFoodSoupeAuPistou "Soupe Au Pistou" [ALCH:00001007] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFFoodMilk "Milk" [ALCH:0000100A] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFFoodBeefStroganoff "Beef Stroganius" [ALCH:00001011] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] GRUP Top "ALCH" processed
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFRecipeFoodBouillabaisse [COBJ:00001004] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFRecipeFoodBeerBatteredSpadetail [COBJ:00001008] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFRecipeFoodClamChowder [COBJ:00001009] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFRecipeFoodCoqAuVin [COBJ:0000100D] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFRecipeFoodSnowberryPie [COBJ:0000100E] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFRecipeFoodSoupeAuPistou [COBJ:0000100F] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFRecipeFoodVichyssoise [COBJ:00001010] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: <Note: BFRecipeFoodBeefStroganoff [COBJ:00001012] was injected into Skyrim.esm>
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] GRUP Top "COBJ" processed
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] GRUP Top "LVLI" processed
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] GRUP Top "CONT" processed
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] Building FormID index
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] FormID index built
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] Building EditorID index
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] EditorID index built
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] Processing completed
[00:08] Background Loader: [babettesFeastBalanced.esp] Building reference info.
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record MGEF contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SNDD
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFFoodSpeechWeakness "Milk Drinker's Shame" [MGEF:0000100C]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID FULL MDOB KSIZ KWDA DATA DNAM SNDD
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord ZNAM
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KSIZ
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KWDA
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFFoodBouillabaisse "Wayrest Bouillabaisse" [ALCH:00001000]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID OBND FULL MODL MODT YNAM DATA ENIT ZNAM KSIZ KWDA EFID EFIT EFID EFIT
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord ZNAM
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KSIZ
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KWDA
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFFoodBeerBatteredSpadetail "Beer Battered Spadetail" [ALCH:00001001]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID OBND FULL MODL MODT YNAM DATA ENIT ZNAM KSIZ KWDA EFID EFIT EFID EFIT
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord ZNAM
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KSIZ
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KWDA
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFFoodVichyssoise "Jehannoise" [ALCH:00001002]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID OBND FULL MODL MODT YNAM DATA ENIT ZNAM KSIZ KWDA EFID EFIT EFID EFIT
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord ZNAM
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KSIZ
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KWDA
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFFoodClamChowder "Haafingar Clam Chowder" [ALCH:00001003]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID OBND FULL MODL MODT YNAM DATA ENIT ZNAM KSIZ KWDA EFID EFIT EFID EFIT
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord ZNAM
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KSIZ
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KWDA
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFFoodSnowberryPie "Snowberry Pie" [ALCH:00001005]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID OBND FULL MODL MODT YNAM DATA ENIT ZNAM KSIZ KWDA EFID EFIT EFID EFIT
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord ZNAM
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KSIZ
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KWDA
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFFoodCoqAuVin "Coq Au Vin" [ALCH:00001006]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID OBND FULL MODL MODT YNAM DATA ENIT ZNAM KSIZ KWDA EFID EFIT EFID EFIT
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord ZNAM
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KSIZ
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KWDA
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFFoodSoupeAuPistou "Soupe Au Pistou" [ALCH:00001007]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID OBND FULL MODL MODT YNAM DATA ENIT ZNAM KSIZ KWDA EFID EFIT EFID EFIT
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord ZNAM
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KSIZ
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KWDA
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFFoodBeefStroganoff "Beef Stroganius" [ALCH:00001011]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID OBND FULL MODL MODT YNAM DATA ENIT ZNAM KSIZ KWDA EFID EFIT EFID EFIT
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord ZNAM
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KSIZ
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KWDA
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFFoodMeatPie "Glenpoint Savory Pie" [ALCH:01001000]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID OBND FULL MODL MODT YNAM DATA ENIT ZNAM KSIZ KWDA EFID EFIT EFID EFIT
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord ZNAM
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KSIZ
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KWDA
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFFoodMushroomQuiche "Mushroom and Cheese Quiche" [ALCH:01001001]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID OBND FULL MODL MODT YNAM DATA ENIT ZNAM KSIZ KWDA EFID EFIT EFID EFIT EFID EFIT
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord ZNAM
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KSIZ
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord KWDA
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFID
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record ALCH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord EFIT 54494645
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFFoodGravlax "Dawnstar Gravlaks" [ALCH:01001002]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID OBND FULL MODL MODT YNAM DATA ENIT ZNAM KSIZ KWDA EFID EFIT EFID EFIT
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFRecipeFoodBouillabaisse [COBJ:00001004]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID COCT CNAM BNAM NAM1 CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFRecipeFoodBeerBatteredSpadetail [COBJ:00001008]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID COCT CNAM BNAM NAM1 CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFRecipeFoodClamChowder [COBJ:00001009]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID COCT CNAM BNAM NAM1 CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFRecipeFoodCoqAuVin [COBJ:0000100D]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID COCT CNAM BNAM NAM1 CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFRecipeFoodSnowberryPie [COBJ:0000100E]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID COCT CNAM BNAM NAM1 CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFRecipeFoodSoupeAuPistou [COBJ:0000100F]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID COCT CNAM BNAM NAM1 CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFRecipeFoodVichyssoise [COBJ:00001010]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID COCT CNAM BNAM NAM1 CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFRecipeFoodBeefStroganoff [COBJ:00001012]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID COCT CNAM BNAM NAM1 CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFRecipeFoodMeatPie [COBJ:01001003]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID COCT CNAM BNAM NAM1 CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFRecipeFoodMushroomQuiche [COBJ:01001004]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID COCT CNAM BNAM NAM1 CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Error: record COBJ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNTO
[00:08] Background Loader: Errors were found in: BFRecipeFoodGravlax [COBJ:01001005]
[00:08] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID COCT CNAM BNAM NAM1 CNTO CNTO CNTO CNTO
[00:09] Background Loader: finished

 

 

Edited February 13, 2013 by ArchAngelAlien

[ripple]

It's understandable. We've all been there, banging out heads trying to figure out just WTF is wrong with our load order. It's basically -the- motivation for learning about load orders and reading plugin records. Making your own compatibility patch is how many users 'ease' into creating their own mods. It's not something you need to worry about right now if there are too many things on your plate. I only suggested it because it seemed like you were doing a bit of research and hadn't started a 'serious playthrough' just yet.

I really recommend MO, it's the 'next step' for managing mods. All previous mod managers from OBMM right up to NMM have been basically tools for automating the manual install of mods into the game data folder, which meant constant overwriting of loose files and loose scripts. MO uses a 'virtual data folder' so you no longer have to reinstall Skyrim to 'clean out left behind files' since the default game data folder will always be untouched (unless you manually install something into it). The only thing with MO is that it does take a bit of time to get use to, first because of the different 'architecture' and GUI, and second because you need to set up external utilities to run through MO so they will scan the 'virtual data folder' rather than the default game data folder. Fortunately, there's is now an 'intro video tutorial' by deathneko (which I don't think was available when you first tried MO).

I feel obligated to warn you that your modded Skyrim will CTD, no matter what you do. But the idea is that if you can mitigate and resolve as many issues beforehand, the CTDs will be infrequent and a 'manageable level.' I have 150 or so plugins in my set up, and CTDed maybe 4 or 5 times in the last month (average out to maybe 2-4 hours a day of play). I consider that 'manageable' as long as I save often. But I gather you already know all of this and isn't expecting an entirely CTD free game.

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I wish all these mods authors would create a package together, and
charge donations for a download or something. Like a big immersive mod
package that is maintained by them all for people who donate to enjoy.

This has been done in the past for the other Bethesda games (charging money notwithstanding, since modders can't do that). For Oblivion, there was FCOM, which was basically a giant compatibility patch for a number of 'overhaul mods' plus some additional content. There are many of these sorts of mods for Fallout 3 and NV. For example, FOOK2 for Fallout 3 or NVEC for Fallout NV that includes over a hundreds mods (I think including 2 of mine) with additional bug fixes and enhancements by the author, which is basically also a giant compatibility patch. The problem is that these 'overhaul mods' are a nightmare to maintain, almost always conflict with most of the mods out there (because of the scope of their edits and modifications), requiring constant updates (pretty much any time one of the mods they included updated) and compatibility patches to run with other 'big mods' (typically contributed by users made via xxxxEdit), and the authors end up spending countless hours troubleshooting individual load order setups, bugs generated by the mods they included which they have to wait for the original mod authors to fix, and dealing with ungrateful users who complain about X features they do not like and want to be removed, or Y features they want added. From the 'design side' of things, it was incredibly aggravating for the modders and a terrible time sink.

The Skyrim modding scene has attempted to 'streamline' this process by developing things like SkyProc based utilities instead of messy manually made giant patches that are more likely to lead to conflicts with various individual load orders. It's a more intelligent approach, just not 'new user friendly.'

Edited February 13, 2013 by ripple

[ArchAngelAlien]

I am at the point where I need to make sure I have no more Reproccer errors for weapons, then move on and create a batch patch combined level list. I've heard this is actually quite easy to do. One thing I do not understand is which mods have level lists, and can I just combine them all? I have not touched Wyre Bash much, so I could probably answer my own questions with a bit of reading and use of the program.

 

If I could manage a few CTDs every few hours, I would be fine with that. It's when I walk into a building, and i crashes and I cannot go into that building no matter what is when it's unacceptable. I don't want the mods to ever make it so I cannot partake in all the content. If it crashes here and there due to some scripts, then that's acceptable if I can continue on with the game.

 

So basically atm I am just trying to sort Reproccer and install the patches and patch my weapons correctly. Afterwards I will move onto making a batch patch after I look over my mod list and see if I can spare anything. After I create a batch patch for level lists I will begin a playthrough that will be specifically for testing. I will try all these mods first hand and see what I enjoy, and what I can live without. Remove the excess, re-batch patch and reproccer if I need to, and finally enjoy the game.

 

One question I have is that I have steered away from using ENB's for use of things like Night eye, and Gopher's Predator Vision. It seems like if you are using the ENB's Post processing methods in the ENB.ini file, you cannot enjoy these overlays or spells that require post processing. Is there anyway around this? ENBs make the game amazing, but they don't seem to really be that functional with everything in the game. It wouldn't be a big deal if I didn't play a female Kahjiit that uses Night Eye and may become a vampire later.

[ripple]

I am at the point where I need to make sure I have no more Reproccer errors for weapons, then move on and create a batch patch combined level list. I've heard this is actually quite easy to do. One thing I do not understand is which mods have level lists, and can I just combine them all? I have not touched Wyre Bash much, so I could probably answer my own questions with a bit of reading and use of the program.

Bashed Patch generation is automated, so you don't need to worry about which mod contain leveled lists edits (the bash tags for the plugins is what informs Wrye Bash which mods have those lists and what to do with them). I think I posted a link to the steps for generating (what boxes need to be ticked or unticked) a couple of pages ago. If you have BOSS and Wrye Bash installed, when you run Wrye Bash, all of the plugins that BOSS has flagged as mods containing leveled lists edits will be tagged accordingly. If you just can't get Wyre Bash to work for some reason, there is another alternative for automating the merging of leveled lists, but I'd rather not go there until you've exhausted all options for Wrye Bash because it does this much more intuitively and intelligently than the alternative. Also, I don't use SkyRe, but my understanding is that the ReProccer and the Bashed Patch are separate entities, which is to say that one needs to be unchecked in the load order while the other is being rebuilt. I could be wrong, best to double check with other ReProccer users.

 

[edit] Oh, also Wrye Bash v303 seems buggy for some users. Go to the Google code page for Wrye Bash and look for v302 instead. Use that until v304 moves out of beta.

If I could manage a few CTDs every few hours, I would be fine with that. It's when I walk into a building, and i crashes and I cannot go into that building no matter what is when it's unacceptable. I don't want the mods to ever make it so I cannot partake in all the content. If it crashes here and there due to some scripts, then that's acceptable if I can continue on with the game.

Let's aim for one CTD every few days. :smile: Although keep in mind that even though my '150 plugins' list may sound somewhat 'large', I do not use any of the usual culprits for CTDs like Warzones, SkyTest, or popular script intensive mods like Wet' n Cold, Footprints, and have no 'overhaul mods' (unless you count 'Automatic Variants'), so your 'mileage' might differ. If you are very careful about what mods you install, maintaining a stable load order after the initial pain of setting it up should not be difficult.

 

As for ENB, I am not sure. I use plain FXAA + the Imaginator.

Edited February 13, 2013 by ripple

[ArchAngelAlien]

Still on the ReProccer stages of setting up. I have about 6 files for Reproccer for patches, and I have no idea how to run them. I have to ask them via the mod chat, but it usually takes a few hours to get a response. You have to check things and run the Reproccer, then disable them afterwards? Bleh, *Rubs temple*. I've noticed Wet and Cold and Footprints have alot of scripts running. But they are just too awesome not to use. It's like candy, they offer you the tastiest candy ever, but if you eat too much of it you get sick.

 

This is going to be my final load order for testing, unless I cannot get the game up and running:

 

SKSE Plugins:

 

 

SKSE Version: 0.1.6.6

CFM_extensions.dll

SKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll Version: 1.14.3.0

 

 

 

Unrecognized Plugins:

 

 

KWTelescope.esp Active

manny Lantern Caretakers.esp Active

SkyMoPets.esp Active

lilithsobliterator3_0.esp Active

Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp Active

RND_RWLReduced-Patch.esp Active

mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - Convenient Horses.esp Active

mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - Hoth.esp Active

mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - NPC Bartering.esp Active

mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - Realistic Needs And Diseases.esp Active

mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Active

MageBackpack_byTumbajamba.esp Active

Dead Body Collision.esp Active

ReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp Active

Miscellaneous ReProccer Patch.esp Active

CBC EN LL ReProccer Patch.esp Active

BucklersOnly WIC ReProccer Patch.esp Active

 

 

 

I've moved KWTTelescope under Guess the Distance's esp, as they were made to work with eachother and this felt like the intelligent thing to do.

I moved manny Lantern Caretakers underneath Lanters of Skyrim. - Felt like the right place for it.

SkyMoPets - is a file for Skyrm Monster Mod that adds rings/ammy that summon creatures. I moved it under Skyrim Monster Mod.

lilithsobliterator3_0.esp - got moved to her other files, this one just isn't BOSS updated.

Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp - was moved to the section with my other custom weapon mods.

RND_RWLReduced-Patch.esp - got moved under my other RND patches, this one just seems to be lacking BOSS support.

The mjhKhajiitSpeakMod have all been moved under the main mod, as the author suggested.

MageBackpack_byTumbajamba - Was featured on the front page. I moved it a few spaces up, not sure where to place it.

Dead Body Collision - Was a front page mod on the nexus. I moved it above my Racenmenu.

The rest are Reproccer patches, still working on placement for these unfortunately.

 

Recognized Plugins:

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

Dawnguard.esm Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

HearthFires.esm Active

ApachiiHair.esm Active

ApachiiHairFemales.esm Active

ApachiiHairMales.esm Active

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active

JSwords.esm Active

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active

SkyMoMod.esm Active

SPIKE.esm Active

HighResTexturePack01.esp Active

HighResTexturePack02.esp Active

HighResTexturePack03.esp Active

DaedricShieldHiResFix.esp Active

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

HighResTexturePackFix.esp Active

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Active

Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active

Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp Active

BabettesFeastBalanced.esp Active

Birdsofskyrim.esp Active

CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp Active

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active

DSpSoB.esp Active

Note: Make sure you use Dawnguard version.

FishingInSkyrim.esp Active

GuessDistance.esp Active

JBS_hunting.esp Active

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp Active

Note: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp.

Realistic Wildlife Loot - Reduced.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Note: Use only one Realistic Wildlife Loot - *.esp

ribeable-broom.esp Active

skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp Active

Skymo-Dawn.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active

Convenient Horses.esp Active

Character Creation Overhaul.esp Active

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp Active

Note: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for 'bDoDepthOfField'. Make sure it is set to 1.

Footprints.esp Active

IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp Active

WetandCold.esp Active

SkyUI.esp Active

iHUD.esp Active

Bucklers Only.esp Active

Cloaks.esp Active

1nivWICCloaks.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active

Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp Active

dwarvenrifle.esp Active

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp Active

lilithscarver3_0.esp Active

lilithsdisemboweler.esp Active

lilithssickle.esp Active

nordicrangerarmor.esp Active

Silverlight Armor.esp Active

Dr_Bandolier.esp Active

HarvestOverhaul.esp Active

HarvestOverhaulDawnguard.esp Active

DeadlyDragons.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

PumpingIron.esp Active

Run For Your Lives.esp Active

When Vampires Attack.esp Active

Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp Active

Requires: CBBE

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Active

whiteruntrees.esp Active

Wyrmstooth.esp Active

AchieveThat.esp Active

Babette.esp Active

CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp Active

CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp Active

Headtracking.esp Active

Immersive Weapons.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

Proper Aiming.esp Active

SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Active

Note: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active

dD-Dawnguard-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp Active

dD-Increase Fall Damage.esp Active

torches for realistic lighting.esp Active

RealisticRoomRental.esp Active

RRR_Hearthfire-Patch.esp Active

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp Active

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Active

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.esp Active

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Active

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Active

Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.

Better Vampires.esp Active

Predator Vision.esp Active

ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp Active

ToL_SKSE_by_Brevi.esp Active

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active

Nature of the beast.esp Active

Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest version.

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Active

dovahkiinrelax.esp Active

Smaller Spell Light Radius.esp Active

SustainedSpells.esp Active

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp Active

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp Active

Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp

Locational Damage.esp Active

The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp Active

TKDodge.esp Active

ACE BYOG.esp Active

CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp Active

No Skill Limit.esp Active

vDynamicDifficulty.esp Active

SkyRe_Main.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.

 

Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'

Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.

Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:

Note: [Actor]

Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

Note: [Combat]

Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

SkyRe_Combat.esp Active

SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp Active

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

SkyRe_Survivalism.esp Active

BatTravel.esp Active

HarvestOverhaulSkyReCompatibility.esp Active

Beards.esp Active

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Active

Neovalen Race Compatibility.esp Active

3DNPC.esp Active

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active

RND_BabettesFeast-Patch.esp Active

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Active

RND_SkyMoMod-Patch.esp Active

RND_USKP-Patch.esp Active

HothFollower.esp Active

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active

Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active

ApachiiHairStyles.esp Active

ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp Active

My Home Is Your Home.esp Active

Follower Trap Safety.esp Active

CerwidenCompanion.esp Active

mjhKhajiitSpeak.esp Active

Note: This mod overwrites all dialogue enable only when playing Khajiit.

mjhKhajiitSpeakDLC - Dawnguard.esp Active

Note: This mod overwrites all dialogue enable only when playing Khajiit.

mjhKhajiitSpeakDLC - Hearthfire.esp Active

Note: This mod overwrites all dialogue enable only when playing Khajiit.

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active

CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp Active

TrueDeath.esp Active

getSnowy.esp Active

WATER.esp Active

WATER Plants.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

RND_Water-Patch.esp Active

RaceMenu.esp Active

RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active

Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.

ReProccer.esp Active

WTF.esp Active

Note: May need TES5Edit cleaning. Several test generations of this SkyProc Patch included ITMs. A cleaning guide is available here.

 

 

 

*Edit- Oops. Looks like Water Plants.esp got reinstalled after an update I did with SMIM. Cleaned it again.*

Edited February 13, 2013 by ArchAngelAlien

[ArchAngelAlien]

I read your previous pages, and got into Wyre. I rebuilt my bashed patch, and only included leveled lists and left the process to an automatic status. The included screenshot is what I did.

 

Is this correct?

 

http://i.imgur.com/7ze4Clc.jpg

[ripple]

Looks alright. Also tick 'merge patches' when rebuilding the Bashed Patch. Wrye Bash will then merge esp's containing only minor edits into the Bashed Patch, then automatically disable them so there are fewer plugins loaded when you start the game (in Wrye Bash, esp's whose changes have been merged into the Bashed Patch will be green and have a plus symbol beside them).

 

For the unrecognized plugins, I recognize 2 of them:

Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp - was moved to the section with my other custom weapon mods.

I've tried several crossbow mods, so I've lost track of which is which, but if this is the one I think it is, you can pretty much load it any where in the load order, as it uses a script to insert new leveled lists for crossbow distribution to respawning NPCs and contain no possible conflicts with other plugins. I'd compare it to the other plugins in your load order in TES5Edit just to be sure.

 

RND_RWLReduced-Patch.esp - got moved under my other RND patches, this one just seems to be lacking BOSS support.

Make sure you are using the 'Reduced loot' version of RWL, as this is the patch for that. If you are using the standard version of RWL, you'll need the standard RWL version of the RND patch. Edited February 13, 2013 by ripple

[ArchAngelAlien]

Okay, well I opened my game and tested and am experiencing CTDs every 45 seconds. It happens only when I move into Markath atm, as this is where I was experiencing other issues. I have a strange feeling it's because of a texture mod, but I am not sure.

 

Also when I load racemenu and switch to females it will instantly crash 8/10. When I can get it working, switching between female races causes a near instant CTD.

Edited February 13, 2013 by ArchAngelAlien

[ripple]

Why do you suspect it's a texture mod?

[ArchAngelAlien]

<p>Well, I run alot of them. And why would females be crashing when switching? I know there is scripts running in the background, such as Gopher's Predator vision will run a script when you switch races to enable the night eye effect for the set race, but it doesn't crash for males.</p>

<p> </p>

<p>Whenever I switch to females, it nearly instantly crashes in RaceMenu, yet in the game world they all load fine. I think before I start disabling mods with scripts, I disable all my texture mods, and see if that remedies the problem. I run alot of them.</p>

<p> </p>

<p>IT may not be the case. My log is full of scripts for my weapon skeleton placements. I really hope that isn't the issue because the game is not worth playing without my custom skeleton placements imo. </p>

<p> </p>

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<p>Edit</p>

<p> </p>

<p>Also I am getting wierd performance issues outside Skyrim. I run my PC with 4 monitors, but I am only running Syrim on 1. I have noticed shadows behaving badlly, my screens acting like the mouse cursor is placed on them. This could be an issue with my external graphics setting as well. But I doubt it. </p>

Edited February 13, 2013 by ArchAngelAlien