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Wait, I thought you said you were CTDing at Markath. CTDing or game lockup in the race menu is common. No one has quite put the finger on why except that it has to do with loading too many textures/meshes. Some things people do to mitigate this: use only one hair mod; enter race menu only in interior cells with no NPCs; install the low res textures for the hairs and skin textures when creating characters, then replace them with the high res textures versions after (if you are running MO, you can just repackage the textures into 'hi res' and 'standard' or 'low res' versions and toggle them in the installation order window as needed).

 

Items that have no textures usually point to improper installation of texture files. If textures start 'dissappearing' in game, that could point to an issue with vram. Try removing any '4K' textures and sticking with '2K' ones for now.

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Well whatever it is it's causing me to instantly crash trying to enter the Understone Keep in Makath. Everytime. Just instantly CTD's.. At least it's a good area to disable items and see why it's happening. I use hair mods with high textures and I appreciate you pointing that out.

 

I can live with the racemenu CTDs, but I am currently unable to enter the Understone Keep. Either it freezes on loading, and doesn't load, or it just crashes my game instantly.

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Not sure if any of this makes any sense to you, but this is my crash log:

 

 

 

Error: Property HirelingRehireScript on script follower3dnpc attached to 3DNPCFollowerQuest (7213184C) cannot be bound because 3DNPCFollowerQuest (7213184C) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (000EA159) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 6 in container (02007B86) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (000D1FAA) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (4310BE90) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (00017195) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 2 in container (00062243) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (4310BE95) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (4328ADD5) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] warning: Property InputMethod on script aaaTKDodgeScript attached to aaaTKDodgeQuest (63000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 2 in container (000DDEE4) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (4316C9D1) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (000C5885) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (00057BD5) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (00057BD4) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (4310BE96) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (43272C66) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to (020125B5) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (43185789) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] warning: Property hitpoints on script FishingNetScript attached to Item 5 in container (1D02593A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (00055653) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (4316C9D2) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (4328ADD7) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 2 in container (000DDEE7) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (00045837) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 2 in container (000DDEE6) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:33AM] Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 1 in container (43163A4E) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (9B252122) is not the right type
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:45AM] VM is freezing...
[02/13/2013 - 09:42:45AM] VM is frozen

 

 

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The papyrus log can sometimes yield useful information but it's a not crash log, so don't read it that way. The first two digits in the 10 digit block of the messages are 'load order corrected' and correspond to the plugin that was loaded at that spot when the log was made. The last eight digits are the exact FormID of the record. For example,

Error: Property p on script xxxAddPerkWhileEquipped attached to Item 2

in container (000DDEE6) cannot be bound because <NULL form>

(9B252122) is not the right type

You can use TES5Edit or Wrye Bash to look up which plugin '9B' is. The Editor ID in this example is blank and it includes a reference to a <NULL form> located in the plugin '9B.' You can use the information to check the plugin in TES5Edit, but (what looks like) a script intended to add a (probably hidden) perk to your character when an item is equipped doesn't look like something that will CTD your game just at Understone Keep.

 

[edit] SMIM have been reported by some users as causing CTDs. On the other hand, some users have reported they experience no issues with it. Individual load order and modded setups can be peculiar creatures.

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Just found another bug. When I stop the forsworn agent inside the city from killing Margret, and she rewards me. She won't actually give me the reward. She just stands there and won't progress the script to reward me. There is no option to respond, and hitting tab does nothing. Cannot escape either, it's just stuck.

 

Tried it 3 times, same results.
I have to force close the game from the task manager

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Alright. I've had enough of this. I am going to wipe my Skyrim folder and restart again for the 4th time. This time I will be downloading Dragonborn, and using Mod Organizer. I got some new games coming with the video cards I bought, so I can actually have something to play while I configure all of this.

 

I will be lowering my mod list, and giving you piece by piece lists for your suggestions. I cannot do this without you.

 

You willing to still help me?

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