[IDEA]Actual spears in dragonborn

[elderago]

so I get dragonborn all excited about using spears, and I load up get one and equipe them...and I find out they are used as arrows no new throwing animations or even as melee swords, just arrows. I mean I can take the horns on stahlrim armor, but this is so mind boggling stupid, since 1. those are too big to be use as arrow and 2. thrown spears are actually called javiln

 

so instead of complaining I am going to do what bethesda said they would do: add spears into dragonborn. My plan is fairly simple just make the spears melee weapons and put them as item drops on reikling (you know because they are ACTUALLY carrying spears)

 

my question is how do I edit creature drop lists ? I am not really familier with the creation kit (do to the fact that I hate the thing)

 

Edit: they DO have melee spears (as great swords) but are listed as non droppable and are not in the game, I fail to understand why bethesda did this

 

EDIT 2: was easy to get them in game. but the sword animations feel very weird, I'm not releasing this until I can get proper spear animations working (something I have no skill in what so ever)

Edited February 10, 2013 by elderago

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"Edit: they DO have melee spears (as great swords) but are listed as non droppable and are not in the game, I fail to understand why bethesda did this"

Bethesda doesn't want to allow player to use spear with sword animations. They want to do something better, but they weren't ready to implement fully working spears in game yet.

 

Rieklings have wholly different animations for them, and thus they are allowed to use them.

 

I could believe that throwed spears are arrows simply because of technical reasons.

Explanation:

When player gets hit by arrow, it sticks to his body, and later might be usable by player itself. (That's why you have arrows in your inventory even though you never picked them up)

If those arrows/spears would be simply made into unusable, those would still be in your inventory, possibly causing issues at the moment when you have over 9000 riekling spears in your inventory. (Even though you can't see them)

But probably it'd be possible to make stickin' arrow that doesn't clutter up your inventory.

Probably Bethesda thought that it'd be just weird if you couldn't use those at all.

 

"2. thrown spears are actually called javiln"

Depends. Rieklings hit with them too.

Melee javelin is called spear :hurr:

Nuh, just kiddin'.

Riekling spears have stone-like tips, that are quite similar to arrows, javelins are (as far as I know) usually much more slim, especially planned for throwing.

Riekling spears aren't really "optimal" for throwing, thus I'd rather call them "spear" than "Javelin"

 

"EDIT 2: was easy to get them in game. but the sword animations feel very weird, I'm not releasing this until I can get proper spear animations working (something I have no skill in what so ever) "

And that's something that has been discussed since release of Skyrim.

It's not possible to add fully working brand new weapon style in game.

[elderago]

I kpretty much know these points, I think my disappointment just got the better of me, plus it was 2:30 am, I don't think clearly then

 

I guess if you want to have spears your better off playing morrowind.

Edited February 10, 2013 by elderago