Vulon Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I feel like I might have somehow broken quest progression here. My game is completely stable aside from the area around the temple of Miraak. I CTD immediately when I enter into that space; the farthest I can get before it crashes is the stone outside of the temple. If I fast travel to the temple, I crash before it loads. If I fast travel to the stone outside of the temple, I crash. If I fast travel anywhere else on Solstheim, I'm perfectly fine. I feel like the fact that I explored Solstheim thoroughly before meeting with the graybeards might somehow be the root of the problem. I'd like to think that wouldn't be an issue, but I'm 99% sure that the problem is related to quest progression, because I ventured across all of Solstheim without a single CTD prior to going back to Skyrim, meeting with the graybeards, getting attacked by cultists, and travelling back to Solstheim. I tried disabling every mod that affected DB directly, but was met with the same results. I just enabled papryus logging and tracing (I had no need for it before), but I checked, and it didn't collect any information from my previous load. Do you have to play for a certain length of time? I played probably around 15-20 minutes before the crash. I'd just like to know, first and foremost, if there's anyone else out there experiencing anything similar. If it persists, I'll try starting up a new game and meeting with the graybeards first prior to travelling to Solstheim, but I'd really like to continue on with this save game. The fact that it's only affecting this one area is perplexing to me. One thing that might be worth mentioning - there's a stone within the temple itself that I had previously discovered, and when the Dragonborn quest was added to my journal, the location marker for the stone within the temple was glitchy. If I clicked on the Dragonborn quest and clicked 'show on map', it would place a quest marker at the stone's exact location, but the stone's marker would be missing. And if I looked at the map outside of the quest, the marker would be visible. With my last load, however, the marker was gone completely, despite having discovered the location. Any thoughts on this? It could be merely an aesthetic glitch...or maybe my fears could be correct, and I could have possibly ruined the natural progression of the questline somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlehunter1 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 i have the same problem :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlehunter1 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) i have the same problem. but my skyrim isn't as stable as when i installed it. maybe because of the DLCs or maybe because of the mods.it is crashing around the temple. but one time i get into it. i trudged throught the enemies till i reached the end of the dungeon. then i wanted to get out of it. but the loading time was endless when i use the last door.so i returned to the start of the dungeon and used the first door. you should check this too. maybe you will have the same prob. PS: i visited the greybeards beforePPS: playing on soltsheim my game freezes too Edited February 13, 2013 by littlehunter1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulon Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) Good to know I'm not the only one. Well, not 'good', it sucks, but you know what I mean. >.> I'd try that, but the entire area is inaccessible for me. I just started the quest-line and can't proceed whatsoever, so I'm not sure which dungeon you're talking about. I assume you go to a dungeon right after reaching the temple of Miraak, based on what you're describing, but I have yet to experience that for myself. I have to work and then go to school, so I won't be able to check until later on today, but if you make any progress or run into any other bugs, let me know. I'll be sure to give it another try for myself when I get home. And if anyone has any possible work-arounds or advice, please help. This is a really aggravating issue.It's interesting that you visited the Graybeards before. That would seem to imply it's a problem with the Dragonborn questline itself, and not Solstheim. I take it you didn't discover the temple of Miraak until after visiting the Graybeards, and then you started crashing? Hmmm. Strange. I discovered practically every location on Solstheim before visiting the graybeards, and it was only when I started the Dragonborn questline itself that I started crashing around the area, so either we're both doing something wrong somehow, or the quest itself is just incredibly, incredibly buggy. Which wouldn't surprise me. Still, I'd like to be able to play through the content, considering I paid for it and everything. >.< *grumbles* Edited February 13, 2013 by Vulon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vulon Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 Update - I disabled every single mod. Still got a CTD. #@!$ this, I'm gonna stay away from Solstheim for a while. -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulon Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) Yet another update. Out of curiosity, I ended up starting a new game and, after getting to the graybeards as quickly as I could and making sure I was attacked by cultists, I traveled to Solstheim and made my way to Miraak's temple. And it crashed once again. So, on the one hand, I'm kind of relieved that it's not just my one save file that's broken, because I was worried my progression was screwed over in that file in general. On the other hand, it's arguably worse that Dragonborn itself seems broken at this point in time...Dx I could use some help. Has no one aside from myself and littlehunter experienced this particular bug? Here are the final lines in my Papyrus log prior to the crash. [02/13/2013 - 09:53:41PM] ~~~~~ Footprints: Checking for DLC. Any error printed next is harmless. ~~~~~[02/13/2013 - 09:53:41PM] ~~~~~ Footprints: Done checking for DLC ~~~~~[02/13/2013 - 09:53:41PM] ~~~~~ Footprints: Switching to SKSE Footprints, SKSE Installed ~~~~~[02/13/2013 - 09:53:44PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (060177DB)>]OnPackageStart()[02/13/2013 - 09:53:49PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (060177DB)>]OnPackageStart()[02/13/2013 - 09:53:52PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (060177DB)>]OnPackageStart()[02/13/2013 - 09:54:04PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (060177DB)>]OnPackageStart()[02/13/2013 - 09:54:10PM] VM is freezing...[02/13/2013 - 09:54:10PM] VM is frozen[02/13/2013 - 09:54:11PM] Saving game...[02/13/2013 - 09:54:11PM] VM is thawing...[02/13/2013 - 09:54:47PM] VM is freezing...[02/13/2013 - 09:54:47PM] VM is frozen[02/13/2013 - 09:54:48PM] Saving game... Looks like the DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript is the problem? I really wouldn't know. Help? : / Edited February 14, 2013 by Vulon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxdad Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I am also having the same CTD issue (DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript). I have been trying ALL the fixes I know of, and I have been working on finding a "cure" for the past week. I have read every post in this area of the forums, and I have come to the conclusion that the problem is Dragonborn DLC. I am about to attempt to play without that .esm in hopes of playing this game... but to be honest, I am not all that posistive. I will update when I have a chance. I have a rule, "never buy an update or DLC until it has been out for a whlie to be sure that the bugs are all found." I broke this rule with Dragonborn because I was so excited to expand the game... Now I can't play the game at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxdad Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I un-checked the Unofficial Dragonborn Patch, and ran my last saved game. It worked for exactly 11 minutes (which under the current circumstances is not bad) until I moved from an interior cell (Store in Riverwood.) The log entry was (BYOHHouseBuildingPlayerScript). I don't know where this comes from, but it looks like it has something to do with Hearthfire... any one know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulon Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) Sorry to hear you're having such large-scale issues. I've been fortunate in that my game runs just fine aside from the area around Miraak's temple. I can play on Solstheim so long as I don't travel too close to the temple without any crashes, and I have no problems in Skyrim itself. Well, I crashed once last night, but I was exploring an unfinished new land mass mod, so that hardly surprised me. As for your issue with that log entry, I honestly have no idea, but that does indeed sound like it might possibly have something to do with Hearthfire. I haven't tinkered around with Hearthfire yet, so I can't say for sure. I guess the only option at this point is to wait it out, huh? Hopefully a fix is made soon, either an official patch from Bethesda or an update to the unofficial Dragonborn patch. I initially purchased Skyrim on the ps3, and I've only been actively gaming on the PC since around Christmas. I was almost considering buying Dragonborn on the playstation store just to play through the quest, since it's half-off. But I'd really like to continue playing on PC - mods have spoiled me, at this point. :P Edited February 14, 2013 by Vulon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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