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I wanted to start over for Dragonborn, so I deleted all my mods, and downloaded a bunch of new ones. I installed them all at once, which probably isn't the best way of doing things but oh well...
Anyway first of all, even without mods starting Skyrim up takes a very long time (maybe about 10 seconds? Maybe more?). With the new mods I was getting a lot of CTDs and very long loading screens (also freezing during the loading screens most of the time). I have tried using boss to change my load order, I have tried changing it myself, either way the game wasn't working too well (or at all sometimes).
I am using SKSE and probably half the time I was using Simple Borderless Window.

BOSS logs:

SKSE:
SKSE Version: 0.1.6.6
CFM_extensions.dll
FPSCounter.dll Version: 2.1.0.0
SKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll Version: 1.14.3.0
SkyrimUWFM.dll Version: 1.2.0.0

Recognised:
Skyrim.esm Active
Update.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 73 ITM, 1 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Dawnguard.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 607 ITM, 82 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
HearthFires.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Dragonborn.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 57 ITM, 8 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm Active
Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest version.
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
SPIKE.esm Active
WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 66 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
WinterholdDestruction.esm Active
HighResTexturePack01.esp Active
HighResTexturePack02.esp Active
HighResTexturePack03.esp Active
Brawl Bugs CE.esp Active
Error: Delete. Already included in SkyRe_main.esp v0.99.18
KillThemGenerals.esp Active
Error: Delete. Already included in Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Magnus20.esp Active
Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)
Magnus50.esp
Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)
Magnus100.esp
Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)
prisonerfix.esp Active
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Active
Delphine Makeover D2.esp Active
Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active
Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active
Warmer Magic Lights v2.esp Active
Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)
Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp Active
Ars Metallica.esp Active
Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp Active
Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp Active
Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp Active
Bring Out Your Dead.esp Active
High Level Enemies.esp Active
High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp Active
Immersive Battles.esp Active
Immersive Brigands.esp Active
Immersive Dawnguard.esp Active
Immersive Patrols.esp Active
Immersive Travelers.esp Active
Immersive Werewolves.esp Active
Convertible Azura's Star.esp Active
ScenicCarriages.esp Active
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active
Steel Bolts For All.esp Active
Convenient Horses.esp Active
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active
Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp Active
Footprints.esp Active
SkyUI.esp Active
Dr_Bandolier.esp Active
Dr_BandolierDG.esp Active
BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp Active
BandolierForNPCs.esp Active
BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp Active
HarvestOverhaul.esp Active
HarvestOverhaulDawnguard.esp Active
Lock Overhaul.esp Active
DeadlyDragons.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Gildergreen Regrown.esp Active
PumpingIron.esp Active
Run For Your Lives.esp Active
When Vampires Attack.esp Active
Tundra Defense.esp Active
AK- Azura's Black Star.esp Active
AddChoices01.esp Active
ArtifactOverhaul.esp Active
Bloodx5.esp Active
DawnguardDawnbreaker_SunEd.esp Active
Warning: Use only one DawnguardDawnbreaker esp
Deadly Traps.esp Active
Distant DetailHF.esp Active
Contains dirty edits: 328 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active
Headtracking.esp Active
NonEssentialChilds.esp Active
SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Active
Note: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
Sickly Diseases.esp Active
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active
Requires: Dawnguard Compatibility_Patch.
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp Active
ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp Active
Dont_Steal_My_Crops.esp Active
Populated Cities 2.esp Active
Contains dirty edits: 59 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Open Cities Skyrim.esp Active
OCS + Skyrim Sewers.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Active
Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active
Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp Active
Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.
RealisticCarryWeight.esp Active
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Active
RND_USKP-Patch.esp Active
Predator Vision.esp Active
BoundTools.esp Active
BFSEffects.esp Active
Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp Active
SkyRe_Main.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}
Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.
Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'
Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.
Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:
Note: [Actor]
Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000
Note: [Combat]
Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0
SkyRe_Combat.esp Active
SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active
SkyRe_Survivalism.esp Active
GDO_Plugin_SkyRe.esp Active
HarvestOverhaulSkyReCompatibility.esp Active
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active
Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active
My Home Is Your Home.esp Active
Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Active
Bald_Jiub.esp Active
Follower Trap Safety.esp Active
moveitLWT.esp Active
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active
SkyRe_Races.esp Active
WATER.esp Active
WATER Plants.esp Active
WATER DB Waves.esp Active
RND_Water-Patch.esp Active
Follower Map Markers.esp Active
RaceMenu.esp Active
RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active
Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
SKSE Hotkeys.esp Active
WetandCold.esp Active
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
ASIS.esp Active
Warning: Unmark Automatic Perks and Automatic Spells flags in ASIS patch options. Or you will have bugs and CTDs in game when using SkyRe and ASIS.
SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active
Note: Deactivate 'SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp' before creation of ASIS patch and activate only after creation of ASIS patch.
ReProccer.esp Active

Unrecognised:
Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp Active
upgradeablecivilwararmour.esp Active
Vampire Royal.esp Active
Denselite.esp Active
ApprenticeOfThuum.esp Active
Footprints - Ash.esp Active
High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp Active
Immersive Mercenaries.esp Active
Savior'sPants.esp Active
ImmersiveBountyHunting.esp Active
Dead Body Collision.esp Active
justified knockbacks.esp Active
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active
Dragonmount-no-spell.esp Active
Dragonmount-Odahviing.esp Active




Anyway can someone please help me figure out what is wrong with my mods?


P.S Open cities sewers was causing CTDs on startup I think.

Edited by Sam04956
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Copy/paste your BOSS log instead (with the messages). Include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated, enclose both in spoiler tags so they don't clutter the screen.

Edited by ripple
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Sorry it took so long, here it is.

 

 

SKSE:
SKSE Version: 0.1.6.6
CFM_extensions.dll
FPSCounter.dll Version: 2.1.0.0
SKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll Version: 1.14.3.0
SkyrimUWFM.dll Version: 1.2.0.0

Recognised:
Skyrim.esm Active
Update.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 73 ITM, 1 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Dawnguard.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 607 ITM, 82 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
HearthFires.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Dragonborn.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 57 ITM, 8 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm Active
Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest version.
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
SPIKE.esm Active
WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 66 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
WinterholdDestruction.esm Active
HighResTexturePack01.esp Active
HighResTexturePack02.esp Active
HighResTexturePack03.esp Active
Brawl Bugs CE.esp Active
Error: Delete. Already included in SkyRe_main.esp v0.99.18
KillThemGenerals.esp Active
Error: Delete. Already included in Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Magnus20.esp Active
Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)
Magnus50.esp
Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)
Magnus100.esp
Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)
prisonerfix.esp Active
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Active
Delphine Makeover D2.esp Active
Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active
Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active
Warmer Magic Lights v2.esp Active
Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)
Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp Active
Ars Metallica.esp Active
Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp Active
Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp Active
Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp Active
Bring Out Your Dead.esp Active
High Level Enemies.esp Active
High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp Active
Immersive Battles.esp Active
Immersive Brigands.esp Active
Immersive Dawnguard.esp Active
Immersive Patrols.esp Active
Immersive Travelers.esp Active
Immersive Werewolves.esp Active
Convertible Azura's Star.esp Active
ScenicCarriages.esp Active
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active
Steel Bolts For All.esp Active
Convenient Horses.esp Active
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active
Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp Active
Footprints.esp Active
SkyUI.esp Active
Dr_Bandolier.esp Active
Dr_BandolierDG.esp Active
BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp Active
BandolierForNPCs.esp Active
BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp Active
HarvestOverhaul.esp Active
HarvestOverhaulDawnguard.esp Active
Lock Overhaul.esp Active
DeadlyDragons.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Gildergreen Regrown.esp Active
PumpingIron.esp Active
Run For Your Lives.esp Active
When Vampires Attack.esp Active
Tundra Defense.esp Active
AK- Azura's Black Star.esp Active
AddChoices01.esp Active
ArtifactOverhaul.esp Active
Bloodx5.esp Active
DawnguardDawnbreaker_SunEd.esp Active
Warning: Use only one DawnguardDawnbreaker esp
Deadly Traps.esp Active
Distant DetailHF.esp Active
Contains dirty edits: 328 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active
Headtracking.esp Active
NonEssentialChilds.esp Active
SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Active
Note: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
Sickly Diseases.esp Active
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active
Requires: Dawnguard Compatibility_Patch.
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp Active
ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp Active
Dont_Steal_My_Crops.esp Active
Populated Cities 2.esp Active
Contains dirty edits: 59 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Open Cities Skyrim.esp Active
OCS + Skyrim Sewers.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Active
Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active
Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp Active
Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.
RealisticCarryWeight.esp Active
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Active
RND_USKP-Patch.esp Active
Predator Vision.esp Active
BoundTools.esp Active
BFSEffects.esp Active
Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp Active
SkyRe_Main.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}
Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.
Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'
Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.
Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:
Note: [Actor]
Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000
Note: [Combat]
Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0
SkyRe_Combat.esp Active
SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active
SkyRe_Survivalism.esp Active
GDO_Plugin_SkyRe.esp Active
HarvestOverhaulSkyReCompatibility.esp Active
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active
Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active
My Home Is Your Home.esp Active
Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Active
Bald_Jiub.esp Active
Follower Trap Safety.esp Active
moveitLWT.esp Active
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active
SkyRe_Races.esp Active
WATER.esp Active
WATER Plants.esp Active
WATER DB Waves.esp Active
RND_Water-Patch.esp Active
Follower Map Markers.esp Active
RaceMenu.esp Active
RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active
Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
SKSE Hotkeys.esp Active
WetandCold.esp Active
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
ASIS.esp Active
Warning: Unmark Automatic Perks and Automatic Spells flags in ASIS patch options. Or you will have bugs and CTDs in game when using SkyRe and ASIS.
SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active
Note: Deactivate 'SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp' before creation of ASIS patch and activate only after creation of ASIS patch.
ReProccer.esp Active

Unrecognised:
Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp Active
upgradeablecivilwararmour.esp Active
Vampire Royal.esp Active
Denselite.esp Active
ApprenticeOfThuum.esp Active
Footprints - Ash.esp Active
High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp Active
Immersive Mercenaries.esp Active
Savior'sPants.esp Active
ImmersiveBountyHunting.esp Active
Dead Body Collision.esp Active
justified knockbacks.esp Active
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active
Dragonmount-no-spell.esp Active

Dragonmount-Odahviing.esp Active

 

 

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1) Cleaning: download TES5Edit from that link and follow the instructions on the page to clean the plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits.'

 

2) The plugins not recognized by BOSS: when you run BOSS, those plugins go to the bottom of the load order. They should absolutely not be allowed to load there, after your compatibility patches (e.g. ReProccer, Bashed Patch). You'll need to manually arrange their load order position, depending on whether they conflict with the other plugins you are using. The only reliable way to do this is to compare these esp's with the other plugins in your load order in TES5Edit, look for conflicting records, and decide who you think should 'win' in cases of conflicts (plugins loaded later override conflicting records of plugins loaded earlier).

 

3) Stability: Any mod that adds more spawns and spawn points to the worldspace will make worldspace travel more unstable (how much more unstable depends on what is added and how much of it is added). So mods like SkyTest, Warzones, ASIS increased spawn, Immserive Patrols will collectively degrade outdoor stability. This is further compounded by the various mods you are using which have continually running scripts (e.g. Wet n' Cold, Frostfall, Footprints). If you find you are experiencing stability issues, as a last resort you might consider trimming such mods from your load order and starting a new game (so you don't have to deal with orphan junk left behind in the save game from uninstalled mods). In fact, I recommend you trim that load order significantly. You are using too many mods and stability issues or bugs resulting from mod conflicts will be inevitable.

Edited by ripple
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