Sam04956 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) I wanted to start over for Dragonborn, so I deleted all my mods, and downloaded a bunch of new ones. I installed them all at once, which probably isn't the best way of doing things but oh well...Anyway first of all, even without mods starting Skyrim up takes a very long time (maybe about 10 seconds? Maybe more?). With the new mods I was getting a lot of CTDs and very long loading screens (also freezing during the loading screens most of the time). I have tried using boss to change my load order, I have tried changing it myself, either way the game wasn't working too well (or at all sometimes).I am using SKSE and probably half the time I was using Simple Borderless Window.BOSS logs: SKSE:SKSE Version: 0.1.6.6CFM_extensions.dllFPSCounter.dll Version: 2.1.0.0SKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll Version: 1.14.3.0SkyrimUWFM.dll Version: 1.2.0.0Recognised:Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 73 ITM, 1 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Dawnguard.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 607 ITM, 82 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Dragonborn.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 57 ITM, 8 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm ActiveNote: Obsolete. Update to the latest version.ClimatesOfTamriel.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.SPIKE.esm ActiveWARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 66 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.WinterholdDestruction.esm ActiveHighResTexturePack01.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack02.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack03.esp ActiveBrawl Bugs CE.esp ActiveError: Delete. Already included in SkyRe_main.esp v0.99.18KillThemGenerals.esp ActiveError: Delete. Already included in Unofficial Skyrim Patch.espMagnus20.esp ActiveWarning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Magnus50.espWarning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Magnus100.espWarning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)prisonerfix.esp ActiveUnofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial High Resolution Patch.esp ActiveDelphine Makeover D2.esp ActiveChesko_Frostfall.esp ActiveBetter Dynamic Snow.esp ActiveWarmer Magic Lights v2.esp ActiveWarning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp ActiveArs Metallica.esp ActiveArs Metallica - Dawnguard.esp ActiveArs Metallica - Hearthfire.esp ActivePrometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp ActiveBring Out Your Dead.esp ActiveHigh Level Enemies.esp ActiveHigh Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp ActiveImmersive Battles.esp ActiveImmersive Brigands.esp ActiveImmersive Dawnguard.esp ActiveImmersive Patrols.esp ActiveImmersive Travelers.esp ActiveImmersive Werewolves.esp ActiveConvertible Azura's Star.esp ActiveScenicCarriages.esp ActiveSkyrim Flora Overhaul.esp ActiveSteel Bolts For All.esp ActiveConvenient Horses.esp ActiveAuto Unequip Ammo.esp ActiveDragon Soul Relinquishment.esp ActiveFootprints.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp ActiveDr_Bandolier.esp ActiveDr_BandolierDG.esp ActiveBandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp ActiveBandolierForNPCs.esp ActiveBandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp ActiveHarvestOverhaul.esp ActiveHarvestOverhaulDawnguard.esp ActiveLock Overhaul.esp ActiveDeadlyDragons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Gildergreen Regrown.esp ActivePumpingIron.esp ActiveRun For Your Lives.esp ActiveWhen Vampires Attack.esp ActiveTundra Defense.esp ActiveAK- Azura's Black Star.esp ActiveAddChoices01.esp ActiveArtifactOverhaul.esp ActiveBloodx5.esp ActiveDawnguardDawnbreaker_SunEd.esp ActiveWarning: Use only one DawnguardDawnbreaker espDeadly Traps.esp ActiveDistant DetailHF.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 328 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp ActiveHeadtracking.esp ActiveNonEssentialChilds.esp ActiveSFO - Expanded Diversity.esp ActiveNote: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.espSickly Diseases.esp ActiveSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp ActivedD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActiveRequires: Dawnguard Compatibility_Patch.Thieves Guild Requirements.esp ActiveExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp ActiveDont_Steal_My_Crops.esp ActivePopulated Cities 2.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 59 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Open Cities Skyrim.esp ActiveOCS + Skyrim Sewers.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhauldD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp ActiveNote: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.RealisticCarryWeight.esp ActiveRealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp ActiveRND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp ActiveRND_HearthFires-Patch.esp ActiveRND_USKP-Patch.esp ActivePredator Vision.esp ActiveBoundTools.esp ActiveBFSEffects.esp ActiveBetter Stealth AI for Followers.esp ActiveSkyRe_Main.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:Note: [Actor]Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000Note: [Combat]Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0SkyRe_Combat.esp ActiveSkyRe_EncounterZones.esp ActiveSkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}SkyRe_StandingStones.esp ActiveSkyRe_Survivalism.esp ActiveGDO_Plugin_SkyRe.esp ActiveHarvestOverhaulSkyReCompatibility.esp ActiveUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp ActiveUFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp ActiveMy Home Is Your Home.esp ActiveReduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp ActiveBald_Jiub.esp ActiveFollower Trap Safety.esp ActivemoveitLWT.esp ActiveAlternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ActiveSkyRe_Races.esp ActiveWATER.esp ActiveWATER Plants.esp ActiveWATER DB Waves.esp ActiveRND_Water-Patch.esp ActiveFollower Map Markers.esp ActiveRaceMenu.esp ActiveRaceMenuPlugin.esp ActiveNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.SKSE Hotkeys.esp ActiveWetandCold.esp ActiveBashed Patch, 0.espASIS.esp ActiveWarning: Unmark Automatic Perks and Automatic Spells flags in ASIS patch options. Or you will have bugs and CTDs in game when using SkyRe and ASIS.SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp ActiveNote: Deactivate 'SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp' before creation of ASIS patch and activate only after creation of ASIS patch.ReProccer.esp ActiveUnrecognised:Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp Activeupgradeablecivilwararmour.esp ActiveVampire Royal.esp ActiveDenselite.esp ActiveApprenticeOfThuum.esp ActiveFootprints - Ash.esp ActiveHigh Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp ActiveImmersive Mercenaries.esp ActiveSavior'sPants.esp ActiveImmersiveBountyHunting.esp ActiveDead Body Collision.esp Activejustified knockbacks.esp ActiveRND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp ActivedD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp ActiveDragonmount-no-spell.esp ActiveDragonmount-Odahviing.esp ActiveAnyway can someone please help me figure out what is wrong with my mods?P.S Open cities sewers was causing CTDs on startup I think. Edited February 15, 2013 by Sam04956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Copy/paste your BOSS log instead (with the messages). Include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated, enclose both in spoiler tags so they don't clutter the screen. Edited February 15, 2013 by ripple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam04956 Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Ok it will take a few minutes I emptied my data folder yesterday so I am just putting everything back so BOSS can work. It is just taking a while to copy for some reason. Edited February 15, 2013 by Sam04956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam04956 Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 Sorry it took so long, here it is. SKSE:SKSE Version: 0.1.6.6CFM_extensions.dllFPSCounter.dll Version: 2.1.0.0SKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll Version: 1.14.3.0SkyrimUWFM.dll Version: 1.2.0.0Recognised:Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 73 ITM, 1 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Dawnguard.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 607 ITM, 82 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Dragonborn.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 57 ITM, 8 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm ActiveNote: Obsolete. Update to the latest version.ClimatesOfTamriel.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.SPIKE.esm ActiveWARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 66 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.WinterholdDestruction.esm ActiveHighResTexturePack01.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack02.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack03.esp ActiveBrawl Bugs CE.esp ActiveError: Delete. Already included in SkyRe_main.esp v0.99.18KillThemGenerals.esp ActiveError: Delete. Already included in Unofficial Skyrim Patch.espMagnus20.esp ActiveWarning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Magnus50.espWarning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Magnus100.espWarning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)prisonerfix.esp ActiveUnofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial High Resolution Patch.esp ActiveDelphine Makeover D2.esp ActiveChesko_Frostfall.esp ActiveBetter Dynamic Snow.esp ActiveWarmer Magic Lights v2.esp ActiveWarning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp ActiveArs Metallica.esp ActiveArs Metallica - Dawnguard.esp ActiveArs Metallica - Hearthfire.esp ActivePrometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp ActiveBring Out Your Dead.esp ActiveHigh Level Enemies.esp ActiveHigh Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp ActiveImmersive Battles.esp ActiveImmersive Brigands.esp ActiveImmersive Dawnguard.esp ActiveImmersive Patrols.esp ActiveImmersive Travelers.esp ActiveImmersive Werewolves.esp ActiveConvertible Azura's Star.esp ActiveScenicCarriages.esp ActiveSkyrim Flora Overhaul.esp ActiveSteel Bolts For All.esp ActiveConvenient Horses.esp ActiveAuto Unequip Ammo.esp ActiveDragon Soul Relinquishment.esp ActiveFootprints.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp ActiveDr_Bandolier.esp ActiveDr_BandolierDG.esp ActiveBandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp ActiveBandolierForNPCs.esp ActiveBandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp ActiveHarvestOverhaul.esp ActiveHarvestOverhaulDawnguard.esp ActiveLock Overhaul.esp ActiveDeadlyDragons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Gildergreen Regrown.esp ActivePumpingIron.esp ActiveRun For Your Lives.esp ActiveWhen Vampires Attack.esp ActiveTundra Defense.esp ActiveAK- Azura's Black Star.esp ActiveAddChoices01.esp ActiveArtifactOverhaul.esp ActiveBloodx5.esp ActiveDawnguardDawnbreaker_SunEd.esp ActiveWarning: Use only one DawnguardDawnbreaker espDeadly Traps.esp ActiveDistant DetailHF.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 328 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp ActiveHeadtracking.esp ActiveNonEssentialChilds.esp ActiveSFO - Expanded Diversity.esp ActiveNote: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.espSickly Diseases.esp ActiveSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp ActivedD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActiveRequires: Dawnguard Compatibility_Patch.Thieves Guild Requirements.esp ActiveExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp ActiveDont_Steal_My_Crops.esp ActivePopulated Cities 2.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 59 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Open Cities Skyrim.esp ActiveOCS + Skyrim Sewers.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhauldD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp ActiveNote: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.RealisticCarryWeight.esp ActiveRealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp ActiveRND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp ActiveRND_HearthFires-Patch.esp ActiveRND_USKP-Patch.esp ActivePredator Vision.esp ActiveBoundTools.esp ActiveBFSEffects.esp ActiveBetter Stealth AI for Followers.esp ActiveSkyRe_Main.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:Note: [Actor]Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000Note: [Combat]Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0SkyRe_Combat.esp ActiveSkyRe_EncounterZones.esp ActiveSkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}SkyRe_StandingStones.esp ActiveSkyRe_Survivalism.esp ActiveGDO_Plugin_SkyRe.esp ActiveHarvestOverhaulSkyReCompatibility.esp ActiveUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp ActiveUFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp ActiveMy Home Is Your Home.esp ActiveReduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp ActiveBald_Jiub.esp ActiveFollower Trap Safety.esp ActivemoveitLWT.esp ActiveAlternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ActiveSkyRe_Races.esp ActiveWATER.esp ActiveWATER Plants.esp ActiveWATER DB Waves.esp ActiveRND_Water-Patch.esp ActiveFollower Map Markers.esp ActiveRaceMenu.esp ActiveRaceMenuPlugin.esp ActiveNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.SKSE Hotkeys.esp ActiveWetandCold.esp ActiveBashed Patch, 0.espASIS.esp ActiveWarning: Unmark Automatic Perks and Automatic Spells flags in ASIS patch options. Or you will have bugs and CTDs in game when using SkyRe and ASIS.SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp ActiveNote: Deactivate 'SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp' before creation of ASIS patch and activate only after creation of ASIS patch.ReProccer.esp ActiveUnrecognised:Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp Activeupgradeablecivilwararmour.esp ActiveVampire Royal.esp ActiveDenselite.esp ActiveApprenticeOfThuum.esp ActiveFootprints - Ash.esp ActiveHigh Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp ActiveImmersive Mercenaries.esp ActiveSavior'sPants.esp ActiveImmersiveBountyHunting.esp ActiveDead Body Collision.esp Activejustified knockbacks.esp ActiveRND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp ActivedD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp ActiveDragonmount-no-spell.esp ActiveDragonmount-Odahviing.esp Active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) 1) Cleaning: download TES5Edit from that link and follow the instructions on the page to clean the plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits.' 2) The plugins not recognized by BOSS: when you run BOSS, those plugins go to the bottom of the load order. They should absolutely not be allowed to load there, after your compatibility patches (e.g. ReProccer, Bashed Patch). You'll need to manually arrange their load order position, depending on whether they conflict with the other plugins you are using. The only reliable way to do this is to compare these esp's with the other plugins in your load order in TES5Edit, look for conflicting records, and decide who you think should 'win' in cases of conflicts (plugins loaded later override conflicting records of plugins loaded earlier). 3) Stability: Any mod that adds more spawns and spawn points to the worldspace will make worldspace travel more unstable (how much more unstable depends on what is added and how much of it is added). So mods like SkyTest, Warzones, ASIS increased spawn, Immserive Patrols will collectively degrade outdoor stability. This is further compounded by the various mods you are using which have continually running scripts (e.g. Wet n' Cold, Frostfall, Footprints). If you find you are experiencing stability issues, as a last resort you might consider trimming such mods from your load order and starting a new game (so you don't have to deal with orphan junk left behind in the save game from uninstalled mods). In fact, I recommend you trim that load order significantly. You are using too many mods and stability issues or bugs resulting from mod conflicts will be inevitable. Edited February 15, 2013 by ripple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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