Game freezes when leaving The Ragged Flagon - Cistern / The Ratway

[vollachr]

EDIT: It seems it's everything in riften, not just The Ragged Flagon - Cistern / The Ratway, whatever interior I enter in riften, the game freezes when leaving.

 

Hi,

I've been playing SSE with virtualy no real problems so far, even with the large amount of mods I installed.

Thing is, now, all of a sudden, I can't leave The Ragged Flagon - Cistern after entering it, when I try to exit back to riften, after the loading screen the screen fade to black and game freezes.

I change the fade time on cell transition to minimum using the ini file and now instead of full black screen I can see the GUI and crosshair on top on the black screen, but the game still freezes.

I have a long list of mods installed, many of them are just loose textures & meshes replacers with a total of 230 ESM, ESL & ESP files loaded, including the original game ESM files and a few creation club ESL files.

If it's any help, here's my load order:

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl

ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl

ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl

RSkyrimChildren.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

Vibrant weapons.esl

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm

High Poly Head.esm

AnimatedHarvesting.esl

EFFCore.esm

FISS.esp

ELOS Oaks Mixed Greens SSE.esl

RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

RM Sweater Dresses.esl

Diverse Random NormalAttack.esp

FlowerGirls SE.esm

SkyUI_SE.esp

Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp

Obsidian Weathers.esp

TrueStormsSE.esp

SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

TakeNotes.esp

Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

Paper UI Sounds.esp

Shadows.esp

fortdawnguardimmersive.esp

High Poly NPCs - Immersive Fort Dawnguard.esp

ProudspiremanorTNFBP.esp

proudspiremanortnf.esp

VHTNFBP.esp

HjerimTNF BP.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

AnotherSortingMod_2017-SSE.esp

RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp

S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp

Snow Shader Fix.esp

BlendedRoads.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

AOS_EBT Patch.esp

SkyrimHouseRemodel.esp

hjerimtnf.esp

Book Covers Skyrim.esp

Sounds of Skyrim - Complete Edition.esp

BW Ria.esp

BW Beleval.esp

BW Ingjard.esp

Frea.esp

Adelaisa.esp

Aela.esp

Annekke.esp

BW Aranea.esp

BW Borgakh.esp

BW Brelyna.esp

BW Delphine.esp

BW Eola.esp

BW Illia.esp

BW Jenassa.esp

BW Njada Stonearm.esp

Uthgerd.esp

BW Aela.esp

faendalfaceliftse.esp

KSHairdosSMP.esp

KS Hairdo's.esp

Realistic Haircolors.esp

DJQ_RayyaReplacer.esp

Elisif Makeover.esp

CRArmor.esp

EFFCore-ASM-SSE.esp

Realistic-Voice.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

Audiobooks of Skyrim.esp

TorchesCastShadows.esp

Smoking Torches And Candles.esp

chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp

Dynamic Sweep Attack.esp

LockpickSmithingByKamus.esp

KaliliesBrows.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

CommunityOverlays3.esp

CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp

CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp

HM_HotkeyMod.esp

DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp

Reduce Attack Scating Movement.esp

_SBWaterWays.esp

RSChildren.esp

RealisticRSChildren.esp

VHTNFSSE.esp

HoneysideTNF BP.esp

HSTNF.esp

WSEnhancer.esp

JBMod.esp

Sex Scene Framework.esp

Secret Lives.esp

Better Harvesting (animal loot version).esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

Realistic Boat Bobbing.esp

BHTNF.esp

RiverwoodInteriorsEnhanced.esp

HearthfireMultiKid.esp

MarriageModSE.esp

Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp

BW Iona.esp

Jordis.esp

RelightingShadows.esp

CinematicFireFX.esp

EmbersHD.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

dynamic fires.esp

dz_undress_main.esp

WACCF_ASM-SSE.esp

Demon Armor.esp

Sex Scene Framework - Lore Friendly Relationships.esp

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

UIExtensions.esp

ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp

IHSS.esp

3BBB.esp

DustEffectsSSE.esp

Ranger Outfit.esp

Northgirl.esp

TERAArmorsSSE.esp

Celes Mercy.esp

Better Females - Eyebrows.esp

RaceMenuHH.esp

AudibleNPCDialogues.esp

SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp

AnotherSortingMod_2020 No perk mod.esp

UNP Undies.esp

FemaleOutfitReplacer.esp

AsharaImperialOutfit.esp

Footprints.esp

S3DRocks.esp

LoweredHoods.esp

LoweredHoods_WACCF.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp

Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp

Brows.esp

FNIS.esp

CBBE.esp

LessIntrusiveHUD.esp

Skyrim Horses Renewal.esp

Brighter toggleable Candlelight and Torches.esp

Craftable Torches.esp

Audiobooks of Skyrim - Audio Settings.esp

Daring Demon Hunter.esp

Northgirl_ASM-SSE.esp

BookOfPerkPoints.esp

BW Lydia.esp

SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp

Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp

SOS - Shop.esp

Sex Scene Framework - Flower Girls.esp

dz_tnf_merged.esp

dz_hjerim_TNF_BP_ver2.esp

dz_honeyside_TNF_BP_ver2.esp

dz_proudspire_TNF_BP_ver2.esp

dz_vlindrelhall_TNF_BP_ver2.esp

LADX_SSE.esp

Undriel_Everlight.esp

Useful Scrapping.esp

Sneak Tools.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

LoS II - SMIM patch.esp

Carry Weight x100.esp

Luxurious Seduction.esp

Aymarandfriends.esp

mcCampingLite.esp

IMAGINATOR SSE - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp

RBB - USSEP Patch.esp

LustmordVampireArmor.esp

RaceMenu.esp

XPMSE.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

FNISSexyMove.esp

FNIS_PCEA2.esp

IMAGINATOR - MCMenu.esp

RSC CRF Patch.esp

AOS_ISC_Integration.esp

Obsidian_TS_Patch_Spectral.esp

Obsidian_TS_Patch_Spectral_WaterFix.esp

Obsidian_TS_AOS_Patch.esp

DarkerNights.esp

ObsidianWaterFix.esp

WetandCold.esp

Obsidian_TS_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp

Wet&Cold - WaterFix - Addon.esp

WetandCold - Fur Hoods Fix.esp

LoweredHoods_WetAndCold.esp

dz_breezehome_tnf.esp

dz_hjerim_tnf.esp

dz_honeyside_tnf.esp

dz_immersive_fort_dawnguard.esp

dz_proudspire_tnf.esp

icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp

Cloaks_CCOR_Patch.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_ASM-SSE.esp

Smithing Perks Overhaul SE.esp

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

EFFDialogue.esp

RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp

RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp

RDO - USSEP Patch.esp

Open Cities Skyrim.esp

Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp

Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp

Underwater Visibility Fix - RW2.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities Blacksmith Water Fix.esp

WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp

Atlas Map Markers.esp

Open Cities - Atlas Map Markers SE -- Patch v2.esp

I've tried entering and exiting other areas in various places without any issue so far, only The Ragged Flagon - Cistern / The Ratway seems to be a problem so far, problem first encountered yesterday but it's been at least a few days prior to that since I was last in said location ingame & I've installed/updated mods since, so I'm not exactly sure when it started.

I've tried disabling key mods that I thought might cause the problem & I installed/updated lately, but it didn't help so far, even tried using FallrimTools to clean my save files, didn't do much as well.

Can texture mods cause such a problem or is it definetly one of the plugins?

Any suggestions will be appreciated, thanks.

 

EDIT: It seems it's everything in riften, not just The Ragged Flagon - Cistern / The Ratway, whatever interior I enter in riften, the game freezes when leaving.

Edited October 8, 2020 by vollachr

[vollachr]

OK, a little update, since I got no response yet....

 

I've been doing troubleshooting by disabling all or almost all plugins and re-enable them a few at a time, finally found which mod cause my problem, it happens to be Open Cities Skyrim - SSE, which is weird since I've had it installed almost since I started playing and it didn't cause any problems before, tried re-installing it, still causing said problem, it only goes away when Open Cities is disabled or uninstalled.

 

I thought it might be a load order issue but both Vortex & LOOT won't keeps it where it is, seems it as low in the load order as it can get.

 

Any ideas how to fix the problem, other than stop using Open Cities?

[vollachr]

OK, no matter what I do, Open Cities is the cause, all other mods re-enabled and the problem is gone, well, mostly, it still happens when leaving Honeyside in Riften or when trying to leave Riften itself into the outside Skyrim world, everything else working fine.

 

Also, when using console command "coc riftenhoneyside" and leaving honeyside the problem is gone. but when I enter through the door and try to leave the game freezes.

 

Very Weird.

 

At least removing Open Cities solved most of the problem, wish I had another solutiion though, I'd love to keep Open Cities installed, before anyone asked, I downloaded and installed all compatibility patches relevant for my mod list for open cities, so either I have a mod that need a patch and don't have one or my game just don't like Open Cities.

 

Anyway, any ideas?

Edited October 10, 2020 by vollachr