soleguardian Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) !!!Still unsolved!!! A few days ago I was playing the Maids of Skyrim mod and getting a lot of conversation lag. I went on the mods page, and I saw that it could be a result of other script intense mods. So, the first one that came to my mind that I really never used was the mod Interesting NPCs. I simply unchecked the mod in the skyrim launcher and thought that would be the end of it. Boy was I wrong. I started up skyrim and as soon as the Bethesda logo goes away, I crash. It's not the computer, its brand new and was running it fine. I'll post my load order and see if anyone can help me out, I'd really like to get back to playing the game. GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esmApachiiHair.esmRaceCompatibility.esmOblivionHairPackAIO.esmJSwords.esmUndergroundBathhouse.esmSummerWear.esmUpdate.esmOrientalRace.espLunariRace.espDovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.espFlameAtronachArmor.espFullBootForKKSA.espMacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.espPushup-Bikini.espRaven Set v1.4.espWATER.espGuild Duelist Armor.espBirdsofskyrim.espCloaks.espI5K Skull Hunt.espbuildablehouse.espBlackSacramentArmor.espDaedric Extra Armor.espRitual Armor of Boethiah.espSleekSteel_StandAlone.espStatues.espThe Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esphuntingprofit.esptheRoadstrokersRoyalElvenSet.espnightshade_armor_UNPB.espNeo's Slave Leia.espTGLNordArmor.espLong Elven Bow.espCrystalAxe.espThunderBirdArmor.espHuntressArmor.espField Alchemy.espDerrax_Male_Werewolf_HUMANpenis.espDerrax_Male_Werewolf_ANIMALpenis.espFemaleWerewolf.espUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.espDreamBurrowsSageOutfit.espFantasy Music Overhaul.espAngelic_Demonic.espWickedBlade.espTERA Weapons.espWet.espGDRangerArmor.espzz_GDRAHoods.espTemptressVixen.espShowRaceMenuAlternative.espMaormer.espBetterDarkBrotherhood.espReplacement Crowns.espSkyrim Cafe.espZazimelDrow.espeasysmith.espAgehaArmorCollection.espViceroyInquisitor.espCraftablePantysCBBEv3M.espRaceMenuPlugin.espSweet&Sexy Lingerie.espDemonHunterV2armor.espLadyLaceCloaks_EN.espTERAArmors_CBBE.espRaceMenu.espAlduin's son.espAlduinWing.espamk Border Lace Lingerie.espBikini-MTM.espTundra Defense.espBoundGear.espDryad Race.espBrows.espDark Dungeons for ENB.espHentaiSuccubusArmor.espIsabeau Ladyhawke.espOsare Maid Outfit.espRevampedExteriorFog.espRiverwood Reborn.espDynasty Armour Compilation.espHentai'sSerenityByNausicaaCBBE.espKKFur.espNS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.espReaper's Landscape - The Dead Forest.espSovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.espSirenRace.espSummerWearSA.espAzarHair.espCloaks - No Imperial.espCloaks - Player Only.espImperial Real Estate - Vanguards Cabin.espskyrimdefenders.espMarriage Options Redone (females).espcrimson tide - blood.espthrowingweapons.espquest_seaofghosts.espdhuntress.esp Edited February 24, 2013 by soleguardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 'Interesting NPC' is not script intensive, so disabling it will not really improve your game's performance. Can you replace your mod list with a BOSS log (with the messages)? Include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated. Enclose them in spoiler tags so they won't clutter up the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soleguardian Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) Here is the Boss Log These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 73 ITM, 1 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.ApachiiHair.esm ActiveRaceCompatibility.esm ActiveJSwords.esm ActiveWarning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)UndergroundBathhouse.esm ActiveRevampedExteriorFog.esp ActiveDark Dungeons for ENB.esp ActiveFantasy Music Overhaul.esp ActiveBirdsofskyrim.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 31 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.huntingprofit.esp ActiveNS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp ActiveI5K Skull Hunt.esp ActiveStatues.esp ActiveAlduin's son.esp ActiveAlduinWing.esp Activeamk Border Lace Lingerie.esp ActiveAngelic_Demonic.esp ActiveBlackSacramentArmor.esp ActiveBoundGear.esp ActiveCloaks.esp ActiveCloaks - No Imperial.esp ActiveNote: Use only one cloaks*espCloaks - Player Only.esp ActiveNote: Use only one cloaks*espCraftablePantysCBBEv3M.esp ActiveCrystalAxe.esp ActiveDaedric Extra Armor.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)DemonHunterV2armor.esp ActiveRequires: CBBE female body.dhuntress.esp ActiveRequires: CBBE female body.Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)DreamBurrowsSageOutfit.esp ActiveDynasty Armour Compilation.esp ActiveFlameAtronachArmor.esp ActiveRequires: CBBE female body.FullBootForKKSA.esp ActiveRequires: CBBE female body.GDRangerArmor.esp ActiveGuild Duelist Armor.esp ActiveHentaiSuccubusArmor.esp ActiveHuntressArmor.esp ActiveLadyLaceCloaks_EN.esp ActiveNeo's Slave Leia.esp Activenightshade_armor_UNPB.esp ActiveOsare Maid Outfit.esp ActiveRequires: DIMONIZED UNP female bodyPushup-Bikini.esp ActiveRaven Set v1.4.esp ActiveRitual Armor of Boethiah.esp ActiveSleekSteel_StandAlone.esp ActiveSovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)TERAArmors_CBBE.esp ActiveRequires: CBBE female body.TERA Weapons.esp Activethrowingweapons.esp ActiveThunderBirdArmor.esp ActivetheRoadstrokersRoyalElvenSet.esp ActiveWickedBlade.esp Activezz_GDRAHoods.esp ActiveBetterDarkBrotherhood.esp Activebuildablehouse.esp ActiveReaper's Landscape - The Dead Forest.esp Activequest_seaofghosts.esp Activeskyrimdefenders.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 240 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp ActiveRequires: CBBEThe Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esp Activetheaviary.espTundra Defense.esp ActiveReplacement Crowns.esp ActiveField Alchemy.esp ActiveDerrax_Male_Werewolf_HUMANpenis.esp ActiveFemaleWerewolf.esp ActiveShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp Activecrimson tide - blood.esp ActiveBrows.esp ActiveMacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp ActiveDryad Race.esp ActiveLunariRace.esp ActiveOrientalRace.esp ActiveTemptressVixen.esp ActiveZazimelDrow.esp ActiveUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.SMSkyrim.espWATER.esp ActiveRaceMenu.esp ActiveRaceMenuPlugin.esp ActiveNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author. And here is the unrecognized plugins. OblivionHairPackAIO.esm ActiveSummerWear.esm ActiveTGLNordArmor.esp ActiveLong Elven Bow.esp ActiveWet.esp ActiveMaormer.esp ActiveSkyrim Cafe.esp Activeeasysmith.esp ActiveAgehaArmorCollection.esp ActiveViceroyInquisitor.esp ActiveBikini-MTM.esp ActiveIsabeau Ladyhawke.esp ActiveRiverwood Reborn.esp ActiveHentai'sSerenityByNausicaaCBBE.esp ActiveKKFur.esp ActiveSirenRace.esp ActiveSummerWearSA.esp ActiveAzarHair.esp ActiveImperial Real Estate - Vanguards Cabin.esp ActiveMarriage Options Redone (females).esp Active Edited February 23, 2013 by soleguardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiewiel Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I dont see much mods which run a lot of scripts its mostly armor replacer and 3-4 race mods.If I remember right frostfall and convienent horses have the feature to display script lag (Im sure about convienent horses, Im using it). You can create a new save, install one of those mods and let the script lag check run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosisab Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The described symptoms are those of missing ESM. Verify if there is not disabled ESMs or if a mod having ESM was removed make sure to remove all other mods depending on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) Try disabling the plugins not recognized by BOSS and see if you can get past the logo screen. CTD at the logo screen is typically caused by loading a plugin with a missing master. I didn't spot anything like that in your load order, and neither did BOSS, so it may be one of the 'unrecognized' plugins. Some things (probably) not related to your logo screen CTD but would be related to in game CTDs. 1) Cleaning: download TES5Edit, follow the instructions on the page, and clean the plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits.' You need to remove identical to master entries as well as undelete/disable deleted references. 2) Maintenance: go through your BOSS log and attend to all the error messages, for example: JSwords.esm Active Warning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) acompatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtainedhere. (Compatibility Patch)...and... Daedric Extra Armor.esp Active Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibilitypatch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here.(Compatibility Patch) These plugins contain error records (which can cause in game CTDs), likely because they were made using a pre-CK tool. Download the updated fix patch where available, or uninstall them where it is. Go through the log because there were more than just these two mods that needed attention. Edited February 23, 2013 by ripple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soleguardian Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 Okay, I'll go check those and get back to you on if it works or not. Thanks for being helpful so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soleguardian Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 I downloaded the compatibility patches for the mods stated by Boss. Tes5Edit is not working for me though. It tries to check a dawnguard.esm and I don't even have Dawnguard so it crashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) That means there is a plugin in your load order which has Dawnguard as its master. That mod is the reason your CTD at the loading screen. When you run TES5Edit to load up all the plugins in your load order, and it bounces that error message at you, which esp is the one that triggers the check and causes the error? Edited February 24, 2013 by ripple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soleguardian Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) The plugin is [NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp] I'll try disabling/removing it and see if it makes the game work. I found a few other plugins of conflict after several more scans. Vanguard Home required Dragonborn, and Marraige Options Redone requires a specific file of Apachii Sky Hair. Edited February 24, 2013 by soleguardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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