mtrix534 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 My game crashes whenever I try to launch it. The main menu screen flickers for an instant, and then the whole thing closes automatically. Please help. Here's my load order (it's pretty long, I know). GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmAOM.esmBBLuxurySuite.esmApachiiHair.esmSkyrim Project Optimization.esmClimatesOfTamriel.esmSPIKE.esmAP Skyrim.esmSummerWear.esmApachiiHairFemales.esmFallOut3Hairs.esmApachiiHairMales.esmSPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.espFA Guard Helmet.espDeadlySpellImpacts.espAOM.espMashupUNP.espBBLuxurySuiteExt.espBBLSVisitors.espBBLSspouse.espBBLSHousecarlsmovein.espBBLuxurySuiteClassier.espSkyRealism - Grass.espUnlimitedBookshelves.espClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.espBrows.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espBlitzConsoleCommands.espAZ Argonian & Khajiit Vampire No Color Change.esp11more Khajiit part 5.esp11more khajiit part 6.esp111more Khajiit part 4.espmore followerszamphire.espmore Khajiit part 3.esp11Khajiitpart 2.espKhajiit Claws - 15dmg.espPrometheus_BeastSkeletons.espCloaks.espCloaks - No Imperial.espCloaks - Player Only.espImmersive Weapons.espHelmets - Khajiit Ears Hair.espASX_Spells.espCharacter Creation Overhaul.espCCO - Diverse Races And Genders.espCCO - Permanent Birthsigns.espDragonChristine.espSabreFurBag.espSkyUI.espNocturnal outfit.espApachiiHairStyles-FemaleOnly.espSummerWearSA.espDGInvestedMagic.espApachiiHelmetWigs.espClearWater.espUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.espBetter Dynamic Snow.espBeards.espLingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.espcalyps-animal-ears.espPumpingIron.espCrimson Tide - Blood.espsvs Princess of Thieves.espAOM2.espargonianraptor.espzzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_normal.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espERSO 01 - Vanilla Races Redone.espERSO 02 - Enhanced Fauna and Monsters for Skyrim.espERSO 03 - Mighty Dragons Unleveled.espERSO 08 - RUS-00 Main plus Dawnguard.espERSO 09.2 - Radiance.espERSO 10 - RUS-(SIM)-Travellers and Adventurers.espERSO 10.02 - Adventurers and Travelers.espERSO 11 - RUS-(SIM)-Assassins and Thieves.espERSO 12 - RUS-(SIM)-Werewolves.espERSO 14 - Vendors richer and Inns more expensive.espERSO 14.08 - Respawn Vendor Stuff 10 days.espERSO 15 - Timescale 15.espERSO 18 - LAWE Hardcore.espERSO 20 - Standing Stones Overhaul.espERSO 22 - Better Necromancy Spells.espERSO 24 - Pickpocket Perks Changes.espERSO 04 - Mighty Odahviing.espERSO 04.2 - Mighty Durnehviir.espERSO 21.03 PM Dwemer.espERSO 21.02 PM Blackreach.espERSO 21.01 PM Dungeons.espInvestedMagic.espIridum Eyes NRT.espAzarHair.espRealShelter.espRemove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.espSkyrim Flora Overhaul.espSFO - Expanded Diversity.espUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espWetandCold.esp1nivWICCloaks.espOpen Cities Skyrim.espStaticMeshImprovementMod.espDraco's Enchantment Overhaul Mod With Vendor.espFootprints.esphothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Any help is much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiegril Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Is your load order from BOSS? It looks strange to me, and it also seems like you may be using several versions of mods where you are needing to only chose one (like Cloaks).If you are not using BOSS, I would suggest you download and run it. If you are using BOSS, I'd suggest you read the log it generates, and take care of all the messages it gives you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtrix534 Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 I actually learned about BOSS about 2 minutes after posting this. After some screwing around in BOSS, I got a new load order. The game no longer crashes before it can get to the menu, BUT once I try to load a save it stays at the load screen forever. The only way out is ctrl + Alt+ delete, where it says skyrim is "Not responding." I guess that still qualifies as a "Crash," but nothing about the load menu itself is wrong. It is just stuck there permanently. All that aside: here's my new load order giving me the problems described above: Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmApachiiHair.esmApachiiHairFemales.esmApachiiHairMales.esmFallOut3Hairs.esmAOM.esmAP Skyrim.esmBBLuxurySuite.esmClimatesOfTamriel.esmSPIKE.esmSummerWear.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espBetter Dynamic Snow.espRemove Interior Fog V2 - Skyrim.espRemove Interior Fog V2 - Dawnguard.espStaticMeshImprovementMod.espAOM.espAOM2.espApachiiHelmetWigs.espPrometheus_BeastSkeletons.espDragonChristine.espUnlimitedBookshelves.espRealShelter.espSabreFurBag.espSkyrim Flora Overhaul.espSPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.espCharacter Creation Overhaul.espFootprints.espWetandCold.espSkyUI.espBBLSspouse.espCloaks.esp1nivWICCloaks.esp1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esphothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espLingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.espMashupUNP.espERSO 01 - Vanilla Races Redone.espERSO 02 - Enhanced Fauna and Monsters for Skyrim.espERSO 03 - Mighty Dragons Unleveled.espERSO 04 - Mighty Odahviing.espERSO 04.2 - Mighty Durnehviir.espERSO 08 - RUS-00 Main plus Dawnguard.espERSO 10 - RUS-(SIM)-Travellers and Adventurers.espERSO 10.02 - Adventurers and Travelers.espERSO 11 - RUS-(SIM)-Assassins and Thieves.espERSO 12 - RUS-(SIM)-Werewolves.espERSO 14 - Vendors richer and Inns more expensive.espERSO 14.08 - Respawn Vendor Stuff 10 days.espERSO 15 - Timescale 15.espERSO 20 - Standing Stones Overhaul.espERSO 21.01 PM Dungeons.espERSO 21.02 PM Blackreach.espERSO 21.03 PM Dwemer.espERSO 22 - Better Necromancy Spells.espERSO 24 - Pickpocket Perks Changes.espBBLuxurySuiteExt.espPumpingIron.espzzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_normal.espCCO - Permanent Birthsigns.espFA Guard Helmet.espHelmets - Khajiit Ears Hair.espImmersive Weapons.espSFO - Expanded Diversity.espSkyRealism - Grass.espOpen Cities Skyrim.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.espClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espASX_Spells.espDeadlySpellImpacts.espInvestedMagic.espCrimson Tide - Blood.espApachiiHairStyles-FemaleOnly.espBeards.espBrows.espIridum Eyes NRT.espBBLSHousecarlsmovein.espBBLSVisitors.espBBLuxurySuiteClassier.espargonianraptor.espCCO - Diverse Races And Genders.espClearWater.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espBlitzConsoleCommands.espAZ Argonian & Khajiit Vampire No Color Change.esp11more Khajiit part 5.esp11more khajiit part 6.esp111more Khajiit part 4.espmore followerszamphire.espmore Khajiit part 3.esp11Khajiitpart 2.espKhajiit Claws - 15dmg.espNocturnal outfit.espSummerWearSA.espDGInvestedMagic.espcalyps-animal-ears.espsvs Princess of Thieves.espERSO 09.2 - Radiance.espERSO 18 - LAWE Hardcore.espAzarHair.espDraco's Enchantment Overhaul Mod With Vendor.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiegril Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Have you read the BOSS log? There are a few things I can see that would generate messages from BOSS that you need to take care of, for example the Cloaks thing. After you address all of those, you can paste your BOSS log easily in a post--just have it generate the log as a .txt file, then copy/paste. Enclose in spoiler tage, cause it's pretty long. In addition, you may want to try disabling the ApachiHair Females and ApachiiHair Males (not the main one), because they can cause the hang you are describing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun22 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 i have the same problem i uninstalled it but its still crashing and it worked fine before i tryed the mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtrix534 Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) Just ran BOSS again after disablling ApachiiHair Females and Males (but leaving the main one intact): BOSSVersion 2.1.1 ======================================Summary====================================== Plugin Type Count Recognised (or sorted by user rules) 99 Unrecognised 21 Inactive 13 All 120 Plugin Message Type Count Warning 2 Error 0 All 34 * Your masterlist is already at the latest revision (r6475; 2013-02-28). No update necessary.* No change in recognised plugin list since last run.* Note: Latest BOSS thread ("http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1441520-relz-boss-for-skyrim/")* Note: The BOSS team has been overwhelmed with the popularity of submissions of unrecognised plugins from the BOSS Log and the number of outstanding unique submissions. As of 05 February 2013 we are at over 4000+ plugins to add to the Masterlist. Some dating as far back as 30 August 2012. If you are interested in helping to get these plugins added to BOSS's masterlist, please PM Aellis at Bethesda Softworks ("http://forums.bethsoft.com/user/364024-aellis/") or Nexus ("http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?showuser=65745/").* Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date. ======================================SKSE Plugins====================================== SKSE Version: 0.1.6.9 rmm_plugin.dll SKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll Version: 1.14.3.0 ======================================Recognised Plugins====================================== These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action. Skyrim.esm Active Update.esm Active* Contains dirty edits: 73 ITM, 1 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). Dawnguard.esm Active* Contains dirty edits: 607 ITM, 82 UDR records with 3.0.28. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} ApachiiHair.esm Active ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm FallOut3Hairs.esm Active AOM.esm Active* Contains dirty edits: 8 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). AP Skyrim.esm Active BBLuxurySuite.esm Active ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active* Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). SPIKE.esm Active Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active Remove Interior Fog V2 - Skyrim.esp Active* Note: Use Remove Interior Fog V2 - Dawnguard.esp in addition to include Dawnguard locations. Remove Interior Fog V2 - Dawnguard.esp Active StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active AOM.esp Active* Contains dirty edits: 8 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). AOM2.esp Active ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp Active Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp Active DragonChristine.esp Active UnlimitedBookshelves.esp Active RealShelter.esp Active SabreFurBag.esp Active Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}} Character Creation Overhaul.esp Active Footprints.esp Active WetandCold.esp Active SkyUI.esp Active BBLSspouse.esp Active Cloaks.esp Active Cloaks - No Imperial.esp* Note: Use only one cloaks*esp Cloaks - Player Only.esp* Note: Use only one cloaks*esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} 1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp* Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp. 1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp* Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp.* Incompatible with: Cloaks of skyrim (even with compatibility patch). To fix this use another WICCloaks esp or uninstall cloaks of skyrim. 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch-No Imp.esp* Incompatible with: 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch esp hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp Active MashupUNP.esp Active ERSO 01 - Vanilla Races Redone.esp Active* Note: Use only one ERSO 01 file. ERSO 02 - Enhanced Fauna and Monsters for Skyrim.esp Active* Note: Use only one ERSO 02 file. ERSO 03 - Mighty Dragons Unleveled.esp Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} ERSO 04 - Mighty Odahviing.esp Active ERSO 04.2 - Mighty Durnehviir.esp Active ERSO 08 - RUS-00 Main plus Dawnguard.esp Active ERSO 10 - RUS-(SIM)-Travellers and Adventurers.esp Active ERSO 10.02 - Adventurers and Travelers.esp Active ERSO 11 - RUS-(SIM)-Assassins and Thieves.esp Active ERSO 12 - RUS-(SIM)-Werewolves.esp Active ERSO 14 - Vendors richer and Inns more expensive.esp Active ERSO 14.08 - Respawn Vendor Stuff 10 days.esp Active* Note: Use only one ERSO 14.08 file. ERSO 15 - Timescale 15.esp Active* Note: Use only one ERSO 15 file. ERSO 20 - Standing Stones Overhaul.esp Active* Note: Use only one ERSO 20 file. ERSO 21.01 PM Dungeons.esp Active ERSO 21.02 PM Blackreach.esp Active ERSO 21.03 PM Dwemer.esp Active ERSO 22 - Better Necromancy Spells.esp Active ERSO 24 - Pickpocket Perks Changes.esp Active BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp Active PumpingIron.esp Active zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_nounderwear.esp* Note: Use only one zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer esp zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_noskirtnounderwear.esp* Note: Use only one zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer esp zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_normal.esp Active* Note: Use only one zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer esp zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_nobra.esp* Note: Use only one zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer esp zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_noskirt.esp* Note: Use only one zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer esp CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp Active* Contains dirty edits: 0 ITM, 24 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). FA Guard Helmet.esp Active Helmets - Khajiit Ears Hair.esp Active Immersive Weapons.esp Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}} SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Active* Note: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp SkyRealism - Grass.esp Active Open Cities Skyrim.esp Active Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp Active Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Active Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.esp Active Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Active ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active* Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active ASX_Spells.esp Active DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Active InvestedMagic.esp Active Crimson Tide - Blood.esp Active ApachiiHairStyles-FemaleOnly.esp Active Beards.esp Active Brows.esp Active Iridum Eyes NRT.esp Active BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp Active BBLSVisitors.esp Active BBLuxurySuiteClassier.esp Active argonianraptor.esp Active CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp Active ClearWater.esp Active RaceMenu.esp Active RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active* Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author. ======================================Unrecognised Plugins====================================== The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed. SummerWear.esm Active BlitzConsoleCommands.esp Active AZ Argonian & Khajiit Vampire No Color Change.esp Active 11more Khajiit part 5.esp Active 11more khajiit part 6.esp Active 111more Khajiit part 4.esp Active more followerszamphire.esp Active more Khajiit part 3.esp Active 11Khajiitpart 2.esp Active Khajiit Claws - 15dmg.esp Active Nocturnal outfit.esp Active SummerWearSA.esp Active DGInvestedMagic.esp Active calyps-animal-ears.esp Active svs Princess of Thieves.esp Active ERSO 09.2 - Radiance.esp Active ERSO 18 - LAWE Hardcore.esp Active AzarHair.esp Active Draco's Enchantment Overhaul Mod With Vendor.esp Active 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch-No ImpGuards.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch-NoGuards.esp Still getting stuck on loading screen. Edited March 2, 2013 by mtrix534 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiegril Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active * Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul--I think you need to address this. Also, you have a bunch of mods unrecognized by BOSS, you need to manually place them properly, if you have not already. I would double check those in particular to make sure you have all that the mod author requires and that they are compatible with your other mods, since that won't show up on the BOSS log for unrecognized mods. Edit: Just had a nother thought--are you starting a new game with all this, or are you adding mods to a game you've been playing a while? If it's a new game, I'd exit Helgen before adding anything, mod-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun22 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 i just tryed starting a new game without mods just the dlc and still not working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtrix534 Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 I don't even use climates of tamriel. How is it still in my load order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtrix534 Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 Also does "placing them properly" just mean that they are behind the mods under the "masters" in the description? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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