Frequent freezing/crashing

[Rukimster]

I keep experiencing too frequent freezes or CTDs when walking outside or entering/exiting buldings. The game used to only freeze solid, so I decided to do a complete re-install. Cleaned everything up and put my mods in place, so now it just crashes with the windows error message every once in a while. I'm playing New Vegas through the 4GB-enabler with the latest NVSE hooked up. Here is the mod list:

 

 

[X] FalloutNV.esm

[X] DeadMoney.esm

[X] HonestHearts.esm

[X] OldWorldBlues.esm

[X] LonesomeRoad.esm

[X] GunRunnersArsenal.esm

[X] ClassicPack.esm

[X] TribalPack.esm

[X] CaravanPack.esm

[X] More Perks.esm

[X] More Traits.esm

[X] More Perks for Dead Money.esm

[X] More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm

[X] More Perks for Old World Blues.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Core.esm

[X] MercenaryPack.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

[X] WMR.esm

[ ] FalloutNV_lang.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

[X] Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

[X] The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

[X] The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

[X] CONELRAD 640-1240.esp

[X] More Perks Update.esp

[X] More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp

[X] More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp

[X] More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp

[X] More Traits Update.esp

[X] bzArmour.esp

[X] EVE FNV.esp

[X] EVE FNV-[GRA Patch for EVE 1.3].esp

[X] WeaponModsExpanded.esp

[X] Project Nevada - WMX.esp

[X] WMX-EVE.esp

[X] WMX-DeadMoney.esp

[X] WMX-HonestHearts.esp

[X] WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

[X] WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

[X] WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

[X] WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp

[X] 1nivVSLArmors.esp

[X] 1nivPNSLPatch.esp

[X] JustAnArmorPack_NV.esp

[ ] JustAnArmorPack_WithCheatBox.esp

[ ] JustAnArmorPack_WithCheatBoxAndAliceArmors.esp

[X] Omegared99 - Enb Transparency Fix.esp

[X] WMR_HonestHearts_S.esp

[X] WMR_OldWorldBlues_S.esp

[X] WMR_LonesomeRoad_S.esp

[X] WMR_Vanilla_S.esp

[X] WMR_DeadMoney_S.esp

[X] WMR_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_LonesomeRoad_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_Vanilla_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_HonestHearts_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_OldWorldBlues_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp

[X] Western Sky - Darker Nights.esp

[X] Malagar 2.esp

The final esp is my merged patch.

My system is:

Intel i5 3450

ATI Radeon HD 7970 Ghz

8GB RAM

[SMB92]

Your load order is so bad it's not funny. Go download BOSS and have it sort your LO and recreate your merged patch.

 

OMG you have one of the PN esps above a esm, I know that one is flagged as a master but whoa, not meant to be. You badly need BOSS. You will probably have to start a new game also.

[Rukimster]

Oh dear, is it that bad? I used the BOSS auto-sort thing embedded in FOMM and now I'm guessing that it was a horrible mistake. So I fixed the load order with the actual BOSS thing and here's what I got sans the merged patch:

 

 

[X] FalloutNV.esm

[X] DeadMoney.esm

[X] HonestHearts.esm

[X] OldWorldBlues.esm

[X] LonesomeRoad.esm

[X] GunRunnersArsenal.esm

[X] ClassicPack.esm

[X] MercenaryPack.esm

[X] TribalPack.esm

[X] CaravanPack.esm

[X] More Perks.esm

[X] More Perks for Dead Money.esm

[X] More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm

[X] More Perks for Old World Blues.esm

[X] More Traits.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Core.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

[X] WMR.esm

[ ] FalloutNV_lang.esp

[X] The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

[X] The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

[X] CONELRAD 640-1240.esp

[X] More Perks Update.esp

[X] More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp

[X] More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp

[X] More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp

[X] More Traits Update.esp

[X] bzArmour.esp

[X] WeaponModsExpanded.esp

[X] Project Nevada - WMX.esp

[X] WMX-DeadMoney.esp

[X] WMX-HonestHearts.esp

[X] WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

[X] WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

[X] WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

[X] WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp

[X] EVE FNV.esp

[X] EVE FNV-[GRA Patch for EVE 1.3].esp

[X] WMX-EVE.esp

[X] Western Sky - Darker Nights.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

[X] Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

[X] 1nivVSLArmors.esp

[X] 1nivPNSLPatch.esp

[X] JustAnArmorPack_NV.esp

[ ] JustAnArmorPack_WithCheatBox.esp

[ ] JustAnArmorPack_WithCheatBoxAndAliceArmors.esp

[X] Omegared99 - Enb Transparency Fix.esp

[X] WMR_HonestHearts_S.esp

[X] WMR_OldWorldBlues_S.esp

[X] WMR_LonesomeRoad_S.esp

[X] WMR_Vanilla_S.esp

[X] WMR_DeadMoney_S.esp

[X] WMR_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_LonesomeRoad_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_Vanilla_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_HonestHearts_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_OldWorldBlues_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp

EDIT: Ok, it seemed to work without crashing for a bit longer this time, but it did crash after about 40 minutes of walking the desert (crashed upon closing the trading interface). However, that was my old save. Should I try starting anew?

Edited March 7, 2013 by Rukimster

[Rukimster]

So this is my current load order (BOSS-compiled) and I'm still getting crashes all the same. Any ideas?

 

 

[X] FalloutNV.esm

[X] DeadMoney.esm

[X] HonestHearts.esm

[X] OldWorldBlues.esm

[X] LonesomeRoad.esm

[X] GunRunnersArsenal.esm

[X] ClassicPack.esm

[X] MercenaryPack.esm

[X] TribalPack.esm

[X] CaravanPack.esm

[X] Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

[X] More Perks.esm

[X] More Perks for Dead Money.esm

[X] More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm

[X] More Perks for Old World Blues.esm

[X] More Traits.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Core.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

[X] WMR.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

[ ] FalloutNV_lang.esp

[X] The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

[X] The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

[X] CONELRAD 640-1240.esp

[X] More Perks Update.esp

[X] More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp

[X] More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp

[X] More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp

[X] More Traits Update.esp

[X] bzArmour.esp

[X] WeaponModsExpanded.esp

[X] Project Nevada - WMX.esp

[X] WMX-DeadMoney.esp

[X] WMX-HonestHearts.esp

[X] WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

[X] WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

[X] WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

[X] WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp

[X] EVE FNV.esp

[X] EVE FNV-[GRA Patch for EVE 1.3].esp

[X] WMX-EVE.esp

[X] Western Sky - Darker Nights.esp

[X] Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp

[X] ILO - PipBoy Light.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

[X] Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

[X] 1nivVSLArmors.esp

[X] 1nivPNSLPatch.esp

[X] JustAnArmorPack_NV.esp

[X] Omegared99 - Enb Transparency Fix.esp

[X] WMR_HonestHearts_S.esp

[X] WMR_OldWorldBlues_S.esp

[X] WMR_LonesomeRoad_S.esp

[X] WMR_Vanilla_S.esp

[X] WMR_DeadMoney_S.esp

[X] WMR_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_LonesomeRoad_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_Vanilla_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_HonestHearts_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_OldWorldBlues_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp

[X] Merged Patch.esp

[SMB92]

Ok so the WMR default esps want to be above WMX and then the WMX patches after WMX is per normal, the 3 Project Nevada esps under ILO want to be right under the Project Nevada extra options esm, Project Nevada - WMX wants to hbe just after the last WMX preorder esp, but before EVE.

 

I suggest you get NVEC (llok on my sig) and get More Perks Merged, there is a description on how to install it there. Also NVEC includes EVE now.

[Rukimster]

Thank you for your help! I will try NVEC and report back with the results soon. Edited March 8, 2013 by Rukimster

[Rukimster]

So I installed NVEC and started a new game, but it still crashes all the same. Here is my current LO:

 

[X] FalloutNV.esm

[X] DeadMoney.esm

[X] HonestHearts.esm

[X] OldWorldBlues.esm

[X] LonesomeRoad.esm

[X] GunRunnersArsenal.esm

[X] ClassicPack.esm

[X] MercenaryPack.esm

[X] TribalPack.esm

[X] CaravanPack.esm

[X] NVEC Complete.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Core.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

[X] WMR.esm

[X] More Perks.esm

[X] Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

[X] Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

[X] NVEC PN COMBO Patch.esp

[ ] FalloutNV_lang.esp

[X] The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

[X] CONELRAD 640-1240.esp

[X] bzArmour.esp

[X] WMR_HonestHearts_S.esp

[X] WMR_OldWorldBlues_S.esp

[X] WMR_LonesomeRoad_S.esp

[X] WMR_Vanilla_S.esp

[X] WMR_DeadMoney_S.esp

[X] WMR_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp

[X] WeaponModsExpanded.esp

[X] WMX-DeadMoney.esp

[X] WMX-HonestHearts.esp

[X] WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

[X] WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

[X] WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

[X] WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp

[X] Project Nevada - WMX.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_LonesomeRoad_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_Vanilla_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_HonestHearts_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_OldWorldBlues_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp

[X] NVEC Complete WMX Patch.esp

[X] 1nivVSLArmors.esp

[X] 1nivPNSLPatch.esp

[X] JustAnArmorPack_NV.esp

[X] Omegared99 - Enb Transparency Fix.esp

[X] Western Sky - Darker Nights.esp

[X] ILO - PipBoy Light.esp

[X] Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp

[X] The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

[X] Merged Patch.esp

Also, I'm using this 4GB enabler and nvse 2 beta 12. The problem seems to be somewhere in the Mojave itself, since I ran through Dead Money in one sitting with no freezes or crashes whatsoever. It's worth noting that about a year ago I ran almost the same set of mods and it worked perfectly fine, though I did have a different rig back then.

 

EDIT: I would also like to add that I'm not using any temp-monitoring overlays or anything. The only "external" thing running with the game is the ENB mod with an SMAA injector, but I guess it doesn't matter since it ran perfectly fine in Dead Money.

EDIT 2: Yet another thing I forgot to mention is that I'm using the Ojo Bueno texture pack. Whenever I try to use NMC textures (no matter the size) I keep getting black textures and crashes, which is super-weird too, since medium NMC ran perfectly fine on my old HD6870 GPU.

EDIT 3: Removed the texture pack. At first it held on for almost two hours, but then BAM, crashes every 20-30 minutes again.

Edited March 10, 2013 by Rukimster

[SMB92]

Mod configuration menu wants to be at the top of the esp list. Other than that your LO looks much better. I'd say start a new game cos your previous save is likely broken now anyway...

[Rukimster]

This is really beoming ridiculous (or hilarious). I checked FNV for conflicts, removed some potentially troublesome mods and started a new game. BAM, crash within the first 20 minutes. How is that even possible? Could it be a hardware issue (something in the vein of the game not liking my sound card or something) at all? Here's the load order:

 

[X] FalloutNV.esm

[X] DeadMoney.esm

[X] HonestHearts.esm

[X] OldWorldBlues.esm

[X] LonesomeRoad.esm

[X] GunRunnersArsenal.esm

[X] ClassicPack.esm

[X] MercenaryPack.esm

[X] TribalPack.esm

[X] CaravanPack.esm

[X] More Perks.esm

[X] NVEC Complete.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Core.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

[X] WMR.esm

[X] NSkies URWLified.esm

[X] Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

[X] Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

[ ] FalloutNV_lang.esp

[X] The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

[X] The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

[X] CONELRAD 640-1240.esp

[X] WMR_HonestHearts_S.esp

[X] WMR_OldWorldBlues_S.esp

[X] WMR_LonesomeRoad_S.esp

[X] WMR_Vanilla_S.esp

[X] WMR_DeadMoney_S.esp

[X] WMR_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp

[X] WeaponModsExpanded.esp

[X] WMX-DeadMoney.esp

[X] WMX-HonestHearts.esp

[X] WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

[X] WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

[X] WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_LonesomeRoad_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_Vanilla_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_HonestHearts_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_OldWorldBlues_S.esp

[X] WMR_WMX_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp

[X] WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp

[X] Project Nevada - WMX.esp

[X] NVEC Complete WMX Patch.esp

[X] NVEC PN COMBO Patch.esp

[X] Omegared99 - Enb Transparency Fix.esp

[X] NSkies URWLifiedDM.esp

[X] NSkies URWLifiedHH.esp

[X] NSkies URWLifiedOWB.esp

[X] Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp

[X] ILO - PipBoy Light.esp

[X] ILO - NSkies URWLified Patch.esp

[X] Merged Patch.esp

[SMB92]

Your LO is pretty god, but in saying that you need to learn that the game is as stable as a straw hut. You can make various changes to INi settings for performance which will reduce CTD's a bit, and also NV stutter remover, butat the end of the day you need to manually patch your LO, as in create your own patch in FNVedit. It doesn't happen overnight. You need to look into the FNVedit training manual, find the link to it on NVEC's home page, it's in my sig.