sixtofive Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 i'm not disagreeing that they have a strong slant added in, but to be honest, so does every other news network out there. whether you like them or not just depends on your views of the topic being discussed, same with the rest of the garbage that's out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalSnafu Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 i'm not disagreeing that they have a strong slant added in, but to be honest, so does every other news network out there. whether you like them or not just depends on your views of the topic being discussed, same with the rest of the garbage that's out thereUnfortunately all news channels are slanted at least a little bit to the right. That's because of the channels' sponsors...did you know that Kerr Mcgee sponsors CNN? When was the last time you needed to buy an Oil Rig...? Many companys sponsor news channels so they can control the contents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_gobes Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 I treat what I hear on Fox news the same as with any other news channel all of it with some suspicion of truth. News channels are often bogus just to make a story. (namely bad news) if they opened their eyes there is more than enough good things going on to fill in the bogus slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Thief Oriana Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 I treat what I hear on Fox news the same as with any other news channel all of it with some suspicion of truth. News channels are often bogus just to make a story. (namely bad news) if they opened their eyes there is more than enough good things going on to fill in the bogus slots. *Cough* like what they made up in the columbine story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixtofive Posted August 8, 2004 Share Posted August 8, 2004 what did they make up for the columbine story? i didn't see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Thief Oriana Posted August 8, 2004 Share Posted August 8, 2004 what did they make up for the columbine story? i didn't see it I didnt mean just fox news, others did it as well. it was all this BS about them being picked on and all. For the most part, though, news casts are fallasy(SP?) and fantasy, like movies "Based on a true story". Theyre hyped and jazzed to get viewers. and dont get me started about the anchor-people themselves :P... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surian Posted August 9, 2004 Author Share Posted August 9, 2004 I just watched a really good documentary called Outfoxed. It's about fox news and the inner workings of the FNC (Fox News Corp). THey talk to former editors/anchormen/crew etc... that worked for Fox as well as people from other news groups and authors related to Fox. A lot of the stuff I knew already, but a lot of it was new stuff for me and it really scares me that they are still considered a valid news group. I think that the main thrust of the documentary was against Rupert Murdoc... and from everything I've ever heard of him (before and after watching this movie) he is a very evil man, and I don't use that word lightly. Some things that I thought were particularly interesting were figures that people watching Fox for their news were asked some questions as were some who watched PBS or NPR. The questions are very simple and have very simple answers (yes or no), the finding were that people who watch FOX are more likely to have completely incorrect assumptions compaired to people who watch PBS or NPR. There were other figures done for CBS NBC and the other major news groups (not covered in this documentary) and the figures were also pretty alarmingly bad for Fox compaired to the other news groups. Here are some examples: Did we find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?FOX VIEWERS: 33% said yes.NPR/PBS VIEWERS: 11% said yes. Does world opinion favor the US's involvment in Iraq?FOX: 35% said yes.PBS: 5% said yes. Has the US found links between Al-Queda and Iraq?FOX: 67% said yes.PBS: 16% said yes. A good quote from the movie by Bob McChesney (author of "The Problem of the Media"): If you're told as a journalist that the more people who consume your media, the less they'll know about the subject and the more likely they are to support the government in all their decisions; that's the worst thing you could be told as a journalist. Former people who worked for FOX also reported (and it's pretty well known) that anyone who is a liberal that works for FOX is pretty quickly either rooted out or learns to surpress their feelings. If you ever report something that is critical of the republican party you are either fired or punished some other way. Alan Colmes is probably the only liberal on the staff of FOX and he's such a moderate democrat that he agrees almost whole-heartedly with everything that the current administration does anyway and therfor is not really adding anything to any discussions. Also there have been a lot of reports from former workers and recently some phisical evidence, that FOX sends memos down to the employees working on their shows with a "message of the day" announcement. It basically says to the FOX news team "here is what we want you to talk about" and almost always has a far right bend. Sometimes very blatently. A copy of an internal FOX memo:Date: 4/28/2004 from: MoodyLet's refer to the US marines we see in the foreground as "sharpshooters" not snipers, which carries a negative connotation." There were some that refereanced Kerry speaches and said not to cover them in entirety unless they could pull something negative from them as well. A FAIR study (FAIR stands for Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting) shows Republicans outnumber Democrat guests by 5 to 1 on Special Report with Brit Hume. And those that were actually Democrats tended to be centrist or conservative Democrats who were often brought on to affirm Bush policy from "the other side of the fence" to give the illusion that "no one is against us". Also, in 2000, just before the election, FOX news's former anchorman Carl Cameron interviewed (then) Governer G.W.Bush. It was pretty well known within FOX that his wife was actively campaigning for Bush at the time. There is a pretty long clip in Outfoxed from that interview that took place just before the cameras started to roll. Cameron and Bush are chatting it up like old chums and Carl Cameron makes it perfectly clear that he admires Bush and his wife is campaigning for him and had been workig with Bush's sister closely. Compair that to CNN where there was a producer who's husband was a lawer for the Gore team, and she was told very quickly that she was to have nothing to do with Campaign coverage due to a conflict of interest. That was the very same summer as the above mentioned FOX anchorman interviewed Bush. And the list goes on and on and on.... Oh, and the CEO of FOX news is the former media strategist for Nixon, Reagan, and Bush Sr.'s presidential campaignes. His name is Roger Ailes. So, I would say that this is NOT just an example of how all media is biased. FOX is more than just biased, it's litterally a public mouthpiece for the GOP and is very outspoken about it. It's dangerous for them to claim to be a legitimate news group when they are so clearly under republican control that it's a slap in the face to anyone who cares to think about it. "Fair and balanced" is probably the biggest case of false advertisement I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyjet3 Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Every news station has a political stance and I think that is wrong and stupid... Fox is very guilty of this but several other ones are the same. Some stations are very conservative (fox) while others are quite liberal (CNN). When you think about it the only reason they do it is to grab a hold of a certain group of people. They just want the audience to like them. Therefore they take the political stance of who watchs them most... I don't understand why you people have problems with republican stances... If every news station became liberal, you guys never would have started or continued this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefiddell Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 I', not American and ive never watched Fox or CNN or any other of the American Media Channels. But what shocked me where those figures that Surian posted, all of them untrue and wrong and it shows how many people actually believed it. If Fox is really making believe those things then IMO it doesn't deserve to be on the air and should be taken down. I dont know anything about American politics but if all you news channels in your country are either fixcated on one party or another then i'd say get your news from abroad and actually learn the real truth. Thats why i like the BBC, our government doesn't control that (but i'm sure Blair and Co would love to mind you). I maybe going a little over the top here but it sounds to me that Fox is practically brain washing people and breeding 'Praise America and down with the rest of the world' people. yes slightly exagerated (sp?). I know our government isn't perfect ( <_< infact far from it). But there not trying to brain wash us......just trying to control our lives from birth to death (which is also very bad!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eiade Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 I maybe going a little over the top here but it sounds to me that Fox is practically brain washing people and breeding 'Praise America and down with the rest of the world' people. Well from what I have heard from the political nuts of MWSource, biased news stations are not biased so they can achieve political goals. They are biased because of their sponsors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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