CTD after around 15 minutes

[Destructor240]

So my problem is that every time after arround 15 miuntes no matter where i am or what i do my game crashes without any error message or any other reason.

I have arround 230 mods installed so looking for the one mod or the two which cause the ctd will take ages and ages.

So if anyone has a clue how to speed that process up or knows what could cause this please tell me :D

thanks in advance for all answers.

[Vulon]

230 mods is well past the stable limit, which is around 155 or so, if I recall correctly. It's no wonder you're crashing. :P

 

First, a copy of your load order would be helpful. And do you have Papyrus logging enabled?

[Destructor240]

No i dont have papyrus logging ald the list will follow shortly and i realized the mod manager was showing more mods than i had installed cause half of them were doubled no idea why tho

Edited March 16, 2013 by Destructor240

[Destructor240]

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
JSwords.esm
customGraph.esm
DrowCompanions.esm
moonpath.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
Dawnguard.esm
Omegared99-Compilation.esm
BBLuxurySuite.esm
AP Skyrim.esm
AsharaDimonizedDress.esm
CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
DirectorsTools.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Dragonborn.esm
DarkAtronach.esp
zzz_Jenassa_MAKEOVER_by83Willow.esp
Alduin's son.esp
Angelic_Demonic.esp
ApachiiHairStyles.esp
ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp
ArrowsOfLight.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
Blades_of_Chaos.esp
CrainteVomir.esp
DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp
Double Axes Standalone.esp
Dragonbone Weapons.esp
Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp
DwemerAutoBlade.esp
EtherealEdge.esp
EzEWorldMap.esp
FS_AngelsInSkyrim.esp
Mannequin.esp
Gizmodian-Obliviweapons.esp
RealFireArrows.esp
Hideout.esm
GreenWaterFix.esp
armored-horses.esp
viciousdawnbreaker.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
People Have Lanterns.esp
longercandlelight.esp
MidasSkyrim.esp
DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp
Northborn Fur Hoods.esp
RingoftheTimeLords.esp
Shadow Striping Fix.esp
Spells Cast Light.esp
The Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esp
torches for realistic lighting.esp
dovahkiinrelax.esp
Gatti3Evilrose.esp
R18Pn - Diano Armor.esp
Dogsofskyrim.esp
Catsofskyrim.esp
ASX - Spells.esp
Scythe Weapon mingyannu.esp
WhiterunREVISION.esp
WhiterunFortified.esp
RRBetterWhiterunInt.esp
Encryptions Water Arrow.esp
Behemoth Dragon.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
EternalShineArmorAndWeapons.esp
smash locks and more.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
BuildableHouse.esp
Naughty Books.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - Bridges x2 - OnOff.esp
Leeloo_Monokini.esp
UFO - AllwaysDrawWeapons.esp
dd - realistic ragdoll force - realistic.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One 2x brighter.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - Around Cities_bright.esp
ZazimelDrow.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - No Imperial.esp
Cloaks - Player Only.esp
ASX_Spells.esp
Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp
Blade_of_Olympus.esp
SoS - Civilization.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
MomoDash.esp
SkyRe_Combat.esp
SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
SkyRe_Lighting.esp
SkyRe_Main.esp
SkyRe_DreadKnightWeaponSet_0.99.esp
SkyRe_Plugin_JaySuSSwords_1.3D.esp
SkyRe_Races.esp
SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
Crimson Tide - Blood.esp
Hell Sword.esp
BBLSapachii.esp
WATER.esp
WATER - Get Wet.esp
SkyRe_Vampirism.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
The Dance of Death.esp
Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp
DaedricCrossbow.esp
AdamantineCrystalArmor.esp
Darklilith.esp
Dynasty Armor.esp
Gatti2Misogi.esp
GattiBondage0.esp
navetsea female face preset.esp
Spriggan Armor 2.esp
SuccubusCBBE3GiftByNausicaa.esp
SummonSuccubus.esp
TribalGlass.esp
FNISspells.esp
DragonboneCrossbow.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Avatar of Baltazar.esp
lilithssickle_2_0.esp
NightingaleCrossbow.esp
SuccubusRace.esp
Avatar Of Grenth.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
BlackTowerUpdate.esp
BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp
BBLSVisitors.esp
BBLSspouse.esp
BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp
BBLSmusic.esp
BlackSacramentArmor.esp
Dread Huntress Armor.esp
DEATH-DEALER.esp
lilithscarver2_1.esp
lilithsdisemboweler.esp
lilithsslayer.esp
ConanSwords.esp
Tundra Defense.esp
Blaze Of Eventide.esp
FullBootForKKSA.esp
FlameAtronachArmor.esp
HentaisJamellaArmor.esp
Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp
Hentai_mixed_Armor.esp
Daedric Extra Armor.esp
sextoys-calyps-2.esp
Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp
HallsOfDovahndor.esp
LustmordVampireArmor.esp
Remodeled Armor.esp
Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
Silverlight Armor.esp
Angelina Jolie.esp
LeiFangAndChristieByNausicaa.esp
XRCO.esp
Neo'sTinaByNausicaa.esp
WickedBlade.esp
DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp
svs L&M.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
DHuntress.esp
KCEDeathBell.esp
LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp
Warmer Magic Lights v2 - Big.esp
VampireLeatherArmorSet.esp
ViceroyInquisitor.esp
Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp
Montures Monstres.esp
DemonHunterV2armor.esp
DirectorsTools_FogUnlocker.esp
Pinups.esp
Pinups2.esp
Pinups3.esp
Pinups4.esp
Pinups5.esp
Black Overlord Armor Set.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
Iridum Eyes by Halendia.esp
NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp
Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp
Wyrmstooth.esp
KKFur.esp
TeraArmors-CBBEByNausicaa.esp
svs Princess of Thieves.esp
DragonCombatOverhaulDragonBornPatch.esp
DragonCombatOverhaul.esp

[Vulon]

To enable Papyrus logging, just go into your 'Skyrim_default.ini' in your main Skyrim folder and edit the text under the Papyrus section so it looks like this -

 

 

[Papyrus]

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0

bEnableLogging=1

bEnableTrace=1

bLoadDebugInformation=1

After a while of playing, you should start getting Papyrus logs. It's a good way of tracking bugs and figuring out what might have caused you to crash. It's not fool-proof, and it doesn't necessarily mean the last line of your log is what caused you to crash, but it's helpful in figuring out what might've caused the CTD.

[Vulon]

Okay, so, right off the bat, it looks like you have some stuff loaded incorrectly. 'Green water fix' should be loaded after the WATER mods, and Dawnguard and Dragonborn should be loaded right after your update.esm. Also, CoT Interiors Warm should most likely be loaded right after Climates of Tamriel.esm. I'm sure you have other instances of stuff being loaded in a conflicting manner, but I'm too lazy to go through that entire list and figure it out. I'd also highly recommend you download and install the unofficial patches for Skyrim, Dawnguard, and Dragonborn, so long as you follow the installation instructions and put them in the right order. :P

 

Also, you should download BOSS to help sort your load order.

 

How stable, generally, is your game within the 15 minutes you can play before you crash?

Edited March 17, 2013 by Vulon

[Destructor240]

runs smooth (my pc can handle it with all the enhanced gfx and enb at around 30 fps) i was able to play 20 min right now and tried to finish the first dragonborn mission but it crashed on me while i was inside the cave.

[Vulon]

Did you enable Papyrus logging? If so, you should have a log now. If you take a look at it, you should be able to get a sense of what's causing you to CTD in particular by paying attention to warnings and the like. Aside from using BOSS to sort and manage your load order, I can't really suggest much else at the moment.

[Vikmourne]

Hi. I think I'm having the same problem. I'm having random CTDs while outdoors.

- The crash could happen anywhere between 5 minutes to 20 minutes after stepping outside.

- I haven't seen it occur in Solstheim (aside from a random CTD after a 4 hour "Wait")

- I do not get any notice or dialog box related to the crash

- I've tried turning on Papyrus logs but they don't seem to be working properly? (The modified dates on the logs are at least a week ago)

 

Here is my mod load order:

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

SPIKE.esm

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

unofficial skyrim patch.esp

unofficial dawnguard patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

better dynamic snow.esp

Clanking Armor.esp

IceBreaker's Improved Reverb-v0.02-Cleaned.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

the real fus ro dah.esp

realrainCoT.esp

MintyLightningMod.esp

MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

enhanced soundtrack 02.esp

enhanced soundtrack 01.esp

Weapons and Armor fixes.esp

Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

Economics of Skyrim.esp

Economics of Skyrim - Dawnguard.esp

Armored Skeleton.esp

arrowsstick.esp

better embers.esp

Birds.esp

bladesfactionfix.esp

BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

CrossbowsRevamped.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

DSpSoB.esp

EternalTorch.esp

improvedskillbooks.esp

improvedquestbooks.esp

Immersive Brigands.esp

Immersive Dawnguard.esp

Immersive Factions.esp

Immersive Mercenaries.esp

Immersive Patrols.esp

Immersive Travelers.esp

Immersive Werewolves.esp

item sorting with weightless items.esp

knownspells.esp

ktxcompleteskyforge.esp

lanterns of skyrim - all in one.esp

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp

Moss Rocks.esp

People Have Torches.esp

RealShelter.esp

skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp

werewolvesofskyrim.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Footprints.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

SkyUI.esp

black mage armor.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

dragonpriestmasks.esp

twohanded dawnbreaker.esp

Unique Uniques.esp

vagabondarmor.esp

warchiefarmor.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

HarvestOverhaul.esp

HarvestOverhaulDawnguard.esp

HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfire.esp

bettercitiesjarlshouses.esp

bettercitiesdocksolitude.esp

betterdawnstar.esp

bettermarkarthexterieur.esp

bettermorthal.esp

betterwinterhold.esp

Breezehomeshelves02.esp

Immersive Events.esp

Riften Small.esp

SBT Smal2.esp

SBT Smal1.esp

SBT Smal3.esp

Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp

AchieveThat.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp

br_hoodcirclets.esp

dynamicmerchants.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Headtracking.esp

nosalt.esp

OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp

Proper Aiming.esp

dd - enhanced blood main.esp

stronger daedric artifacts.esp

stupidlysimplemining.esp

the_god_auriel.esp

UnreadBooksGlow.esp

betterravenrock.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

dd - realistic ragdoll force - realistic.esp

better vampires.esp

DragonFire.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

Realistic crime report radius.esp

Duel - Combat Realism.esp

DragonCombatOverhaul.esp

DragonCombatOverhaulDragonBornPatch.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

Skyrim Perk Enhancements.esp

SPERG Dawnguard Patch.esp

Beards.esp

azarhair.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp

UFO - AllwaysDrawWeapons.esp

reduced distance npc greetings.esp

xced.esp

getSnowy.esp

Purewaters.esp

PurewatersDG.esp

PurewatersDB.esp

Waves.esp

arvakskull-marker.esp

barenziahquestmarkers.esp

impatienceofasaint-markers.esp

minemapmarkers.esp

skyforge_map_marker.esp

smakit_house_markers.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

wood elf speed.esp

stormcloakrobes.esp

MageBackpack_byTumbajamba.esp

IHSS.esp

DaggerSounds4Daggers.esp

imperialrobes.esp

BFT Ships and Carriages.esp

DragonbornDockMarkers.esp

SkaalKidAetaCoat.esp

 

 

I am noticing some mods in my list that are also in OP's list:

 

ApachiiHair.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Dr_Bandolier.esp

DragonCombatOverhaul.esp

DragonCombatOverhaulDragonBornPatch.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

UFO - AllwaysDrawWeapons.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

dd - realistic ragdoll force - realistic.esp

 

 

Provided it's the same CTD, could one of those be the culprit?

Edited March 17, 2013 by Vikmourne

[Destructor240]

My problem right now is that i played for 15 mins or so with the logs turned on then the game crashed so i went to look what happend but theres only on log in the folder that says:[04/02/2012 - 02:40:08PM] EditorPapyrus log opened (PC)
[04/02/2012 - 02:40:08PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[04/02/2012 - 02:40:22PM] Log closed

thats it nothing more just that