nekineznanec Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Ok, so I've been wandering what the technical limits of a map size in the Creation Engine are. For those of you who dont know, creation engine is the engine powering skyrim, so to rephrase my question: what is the map size limit in skyrim? I haven't seen many mods that would actually add map area outside of the current skyrim boundaries. Save for mods like moonpath to elsewyr, which basically make new dungeons, and dont add to the open skyrim world. If someone was to put their mind and time to it, how big could a map actually be made? Could it span the whole of tamriel? Even larger? Could someone create the whole of westeros in creation engine? How does creation engine handle the open world? Is it divided into cells, which load when a player approaches them? If so, is the only limit the number of cells? If anyone could explain this to me i'd be grateful. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrganicView Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I don't know about the creation engine itself, but in Gamebryo ( Oblivion ) you could have all of tamriel. Since Creation Engine is based on Gamebryo, i'd assume it's the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamb0 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 There is a limit of 512 x 512 cells (-256 to 255 on the x and y axis).This equates to a .raw heightmap of 16384 x 16384 pixels, which equates to (reaches for calculator)...approx 29.5 square km. The whole of Tamriel should fit inside. There is a group of folk working on such a mod atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekineznanec Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 Is that so? Could you maybe link to the mod page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekineznanec Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 Another question: do you mean 29.5 square km or 29.5 by 29.5 km? The difference is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerpenna Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 If I am not mistaken, Skyrim´s map, excluding the parts of the map that are not playable (stuck behind invisible borders), is about 28 square km. So no way all of Tamriel is 29 sq km. Its probably 29x29 km, which translates to about 900 sq km. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamb0 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) Sorry, I wasn't clear. The total area of a 16384 x 16384 is approx 29km², which equates to ~ 841 square km. or 262144 cells.The whole of Tamriel easily fits into this, with plenty of room to spare. The heighmap for Skyrim itself is only 119 cells wide, so you still have 197 cells on the left and 196 cells on the right to play with, which is more than 1½ times the Skyrim width on both sides...Pretty big. Edited March 20, 2013 by Tamb0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerpenna Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) Tamb0... 29km² does not equates to 841 square km. Because km² means "square kilometers". 29km² = 29 square kilometers841km² = 841 square kilometers 29 x 29 km = 841km² = 841 square kilometers What you mean is an square area with a sides that are 29km long. Or "an area with sides that are 29km". Edited March 20, 2013 by rogerpenna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamb0 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) Tamb0... 29km² does not equates to 841 square km. Because km² means "square kilometers". ... I think you'll find that it does. Taken from wikipedia: "Note also that if a piece of land, say a large park, is described as five kilometres square, that means it has the shape of a square, each side of the square being five kilometres long. This means that the park has an area of twenty-five square kilometres (and not five square kilometres)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_kilometre **Edit**I think you're mis interpreting the meaning of the little 2. It actually means squared, (as in z multiplied by z) not square. 4² = 165² = 2525² = 625etc Edited March 20, 2013 by Tamb0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerpenna Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Tamb0... 29km² does not equates to 841 square km. Because km² means "square kilometers". ... I think you'll find that it does. Taken from wikipedia: "Note also that if a piece of land, say a large park, is described as five kilometres square, that means it has the shape of a square, each side of the square being five kilometres long. This means that the park has an area of twenty-five square kilometres (and not five square kilometres)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_kilometre **Edit**I think you're mis interpreting the meaning of the little 2. It actually means squared, (as in z multiplied by z) not square. 4² = 165² = 2525² = 625etc Sorry Tambo, but I think you are the one making the confusion here. 29²km = 841 square kilometers but 29km² IS NOT 841 square kilometers. your own quote from Wikipedia betrays you. 29km² reads as twenty nine square kilometers which is NOT the same as 841 square kilometers your Wikipedia quote talks about 5 kilometers square, which means a square with 5 km in each side. 5 kilometers square is NOT written as 5km². 5km² is 5 square kilometers. 29 square kilometers = 29km² = area841 square kilometers = 841km² = area these two different areas are not equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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