CTD when Accessing the World Map

[Maigrets]

I posted about this problem of mine on the Official forums and I had one reply from bg2408 who had heard of this only once before and with modded characters, not vanilla ones. I seem to attract the strange and weird issues when I do have one, which is rare.

 

I'm copying this from my post at Bethsoft in the hope someone may have seen this weird phenomenon before and knows what causes it.

OK, here goes.......

 

I'm having the strangest crash problem that I've never seen before. I'll try to explain as well clearly as possible. Recently I upgraded my system and re-installed Windows XP and Oblivion. No problems there. I'm also playing Fallout 3 with no problems.

 

AMD Phenom X3 Triple Core 8450

DFI LANPARTY DK 790FX

Geil GX22GB6400DC 2GB Kit

Asus EN9500GT

LG GH22-NS30 22 x

Seagate ST3500320AS Barracuda 7200.11

 

I installed all the same mods I was previously using except I replaced the BT Mod with Darn UI, latest version. However, I don't believe this is the cause. I used the OMOD following the instructions precisely and it works beautifully. The ini is correctly edited and I chose Font1.

 

If I use a character save from before the re-install I have no problems at all with menus, inventory, map etc. Everything Darn changed works flawlessly. This is with a save using 130 plus mods. I have multiple characters at various levels whose saves all work, EXCEPT their saves at the sewers exit CTD before I can exit at all. It's obviously related to the problem described below. Loading a save that's already outside works, and all saves after that are fine.

 

This is the mod list I'm using with one of my characters (lvl 25) which works fine without any issues. There are a number of texture replacers I use as well, but they all show up as intended. All Wyre Bashed (v230) and I'm using BOSS and OBMM to order them. The only mod that alters anything at all in the Tutorial is OOO I believe, and that's Captain Renault's armour.

The list looks like a mess, but that's how BOSS ordered them except for some unrecognized ones, including my own mods, that are mainly toward the bottom.

 

]Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.51]
02  Qarls_Harvest.esm
03  Ulrim's Horses.esm
04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]
05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.6beta3]
06  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9b2]
07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.37a]
08  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.2.2]
09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
0A  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
0B  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0C  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0D  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
0E  LoadingScreensAddOn.esp
0F  oc_darker_nights.esp
10  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
11  phinix-waterfix.esp
12  Symphony of Violence.esp
13  MIS Low Wind.esp
14  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
15  IWR - Windows Lights Shutters - Optimised.esp
16  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
17  Book Jackets DLC.esp
18  Days&Months.esp
19  More_Vegetables.esp
1A  OSRCustom.esp
1B  Qarls_Harvest.esp
1C  SummonChest_v2.1.esp
1D  Tc2rPoisonsOfNamira.esp
1E  Living Economy.esp
1F  JOJOeffect.esp
20  StandingJOJO.esp
21  Crowded Roads.esp  [Version 2.0]
22  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
**  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
23  CSR - Fine Iron.esp
24  CSR - Golden Saint.esp
25  Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp
26  Jade Dishes.esp
27  JQ-Amulets.esp
28  UFF Blood Ice.esp
29  tona_simple_dress-armor.esp
2A  Slof's Horses Base.esp
2B  Slof's Extra Horses.esp
2C  LadyDeadlock_LoveYourHorse.esp
2D  ExnemRuneskulls.esp
2E  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp
2F  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.50]
30  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.32]
31  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.41]
32  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]
33  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp  [Version 1.05]
34  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
35  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9b3]
36  Mart's Monster Mod - GhostApparitionFix.esp
37  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.6Beta3]
38  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.6Beta3]
39  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.6beta3]
3A  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.6beta3]
3B  Mart's Monster Mod - No Uberhulks.esp  [Version 3.6beta3]
3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced.esp  [Version 3.6beta3]
3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp  [Version 3.6Beta3]
3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp  [Version 3.6Beta3]
3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.6Beta3]
40  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.6Beta3]
41  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.6Beta3]
42  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 1.31]
43  Mart's Monster Mod - Hairy Spiders Addon.esp  [Version 0.15]
44  Mart's Monster Mod - Glass Golems.esp
45  Mart's Monster Mod - AlienSlofs WildHounds.esp  [Version 1.0]
46  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO+FCOM.esp  [Version 3.6Beta3]
47  TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp  [Version 1.38]
48  TamrielTravellers4MMM.esp  [Version 1.38]
49  Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp  [Version 1.38]
4A  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.38]
4B  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.38]
4C  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.38]
4D  TamrielTravellersHorseTextures.esp
4E  LoadingScreens-OOO.esp
4F  Qarls_Harvest addon_MMM.esp
50  OOO-No_Clutter_Ownership.esp
51  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp
52  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
53  LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp
54  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.2]
55  The Ayleid Steps.esp
56  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
57  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
58  Auto Potion.esp
59  JQ-PotionReplacer.esp
5A  RemoveTrainerBounds.esp
5B  Slof's Dogs.esp
5C  Ulrim's Horses.esp
5D  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
5E  RealisticForceMedium.esp
5F  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp
60  MidasSpells.esp
61  Midas OscuroGems.esp
62  Mighty Magick - Settings.esp
63  Mighty Magick - Spells and Creatures.esp
64  Mighty Magick - Shivering Isles.esp
65  Mighty Magick - Skills.esp
66  MidasSpells_MM.esp
67  EnchantRegen ArcaneBank.esp
68  Lem - Bounty Reduction Over Gametime.esp
69  No psychic guards v1.2.esp
6A  Realistic Arrow Flight.esp
6B  KseAliLeveling.esp
6C  actors_in_charge.esp
6D  BadderFireFX.esp
6E  BadderShockFX.esp
6F  MGothic Breton Race.esp
70  BJsGuildPortals1.1.esp
71  Cosmetic Compilation Merge.esp
72  Maple Leaf Cottage.esp
73  AliveWaters_nofish.esp
74  REBetterLCB.esp
75  ICshack_OG.esp
76  Ayleid Sanctuary.esp
77  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]
78  REBetterLHF1.1.esp
79  ForecastersWill.esp
7A  UFF_1SBBewitching.esp
7B  Improved Willpower.esp
7C  LevelerCheat.esp
7D  D2k-DeadlyPoison.esp
7E  green market district.esp
7F  BlueAndWhitePorcelain - Full.esp
80  adalyn_home2.0.esp
81  talon.esp
82  tona_simple_dress-armor_ver3.esp
83  Gloria Armor.esp
84  Flaming Fearblade.esp
85  My Dog Rosie.esp
86  Sher Ja Lion Companion.esp
87  Kali the Panther.esp
88  Satu Ra - Lord of Beasts.esp
89  Unique Dungeons - Lost Glory.esp
8A  Zira's Battle Horse Shop.esp
8B  Bashed Patch, Siouxie.esp

 

My strange and annoying problem is if I create a totally vanilla character for testing purposes I CTD if I try to access the map anywhere in the tutorial dungeon. I first thought this was only happening after exiting at the sewers, but I went back to a save inside at The Sanctum and it's the same.

The local map is OK, but the world map crashes the game. I'm using the Elven Map Redux, but it works fine with my old characters. It's a texture replacer only.

All other menus work except the world map for new characters.

 

I'm also creating a new race with extra content, and I can't access the map to see if the map marker shows up, but if I do the long, slow run to the location at level one the icon for the encampment shows on the compass. So I assume it does work on the map if I could access it. I made the map marker visible and can travel to for testing except I can't use it. Everything is present and correct in my mod so far and as mentioned the CTD happens with vanilla.

 

These characters, vanilla and my mod test one continue to have the CTD if I try to access the map after exiting unlike my modded characters. Something in the tutorial dungeon is wrong obviously, but I'm at a loss as to what it is. Especially for an totally vanilla PC. :wallbash:

 

Any insight would be highly appreciated. I'd rather not re-install since it took me most of a day, especially if it doesn't fix the problem, but I will if I have to.

 

I should add that I have tried to make a new vanilla character with Darn UI OMOD uninstalled and it still happens. I even got the game to make a new ini and used TES4Edit to check my mods. That didn't show anything as I expected because the problem is with a total vanilla game as well as modded. I also have SI which I forgot to mention before.

 

It's only with my game it seems, because I made a game save for someone before I realized the problem existed and it works for them. They can use the map with no issues. I did know about my old characters saves crashing at the exit at that time, because I was going to give one of those saves to the person who requested it. Now I know it's something in the tutorial but I don't know what it is.

 

Thanks in anticipation,

Anja :smile:

 

 

EDIT: Nevermind. I fixed my own problem. Thanks.