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I've been going through mods like crazy lately, and I finally got something semi-stable. Unfortunately now that it doesn't crash every 10 seconds I've been having a weird problem. At first it was just draugr and skeletons, and I couldn't loot the dead bodies. That broke a few quests but not the game. But now I can't talk to any NPC associated with the main questline, or any merchants. There's a few other npc's that I can't talk to, and they are all involved with side quests related to merchants.

Since I know it's important, here's my massive load order

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
HmmWhatToWear.esm
HmmWhatToWearDawnGuard.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
JSwords.esm
LevelersTower.esm
SPIKE.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
N_43 Hair Pack.esp
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
skyradio.esp
Weapons and Armor fixes.esp
Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp
ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp
BooksBooksBooks.esp
Console Books.esp
IngredientsOfTamriel.esp
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
PerkPointPotion.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.esp
Tytanis.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
AutoHarvest.esp
WetandCold.esp
SkyUI.esp
iHUD.esp
BlackSacramentArmor.esp
BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
Books+.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - No Imperial.esp
Cloaks - Player Only.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
WestWindAssault.esp
EliteRogueArmour.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
HarvestOverhaul.esp
HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
DeadlyDragonsSpells.esp
DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp
DeadlyMonsters.esp
buildablehouse.esp
EBM.esp
Skyrim Home.esp
GypsyEyesCaravan.esp
AchieveThat.esp
Books+ (No skill books).esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
Predator Vision.esp
WerewolfMastery.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
MidasSkyrim.esp
Phenderix's Magic Evolved - Cleaned.esp
Phenderix's Magic Evolved - Cleaned - No Perks.esp
ShoutCD.esp
TrueDragonblood-DawnguardV001.esp
ACE Realistic Fighting.esp
The Dance of Death.esp
ACE BYOG.esp
ACE Speech.esp
ACE Archery.esp
ACE Armor.esp
ACE Enchanting.esp
ACE Magic.esp
ACE Melee.esp
ACE Smithing.esp
ACE Synergy.esp
SkyRe_Main.esp
SkyRe_Combat.esp
SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
NewSuccubusRace.esp
LunariRace.esp
OrientalRace.esp
TemptressVixen.esp
Lovergirl Race.esp
BVLT - Human.esp
VL - Trans. Overhaul Ashen.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
SupermodelDawnguard.esp
Blaze Of Eventide.esp
CerwidenCompanion.esp
SGFChastity.esp
SGFEris.esp
SGFKodelia.esp
SGFLucretia.esp
SGFSabeena.esp
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
SkyRe_Races.esp
Cartographers Map Markers.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
ReProccer.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
BecomeAVampire.esp
TrueDragonblood-DragonboornV001.esp
TemperableArrows.esp
ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp
ApprenticeOfThuum.esp
Merged Patch.esp

 

 

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1) Can you replace your load order with a BOSS log (with the messages)? Include a list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated.

 

2) Why are you using a TES5Edit merged patch?

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Here's what boss has for me

 

BOSS
Version 2.1.1
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Summary
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Plugin Type Count
Recognised (or sorted by user rules) 108
Unrecognised 12
Inactive 31
All 120
Plugin Message Type Count
Warning 7
Error 1
All 49
* Your masterlist has been updated to revision 6583 (2013-03-26).
* No change in recognised plugin list since last run.
* Note: The BOSS team has been overwhelmed with the popularity of submissions of unrecognised plugins from the BOSS Log and the number of outstanding unique
submissions. As of 19 March 2013 we are at over 4970+ plugins to add to the Masterlist dating as far back as 15 September 2012. If you are interested in
helping to get these plugins added to BOSS's masterlist, please PM Aellis (Bethesda Softworks Forums ("http://forums.bethsoft.com/user/364024-aellis/") or
* Note: It appears you do not have the latest version of SKSE. If you wish to update it can be found here ("http://skse.silverlock.org/").
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SKSE Plugins
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SKSE Version: 0.1.6.6
CFM_extensions.dll
showRaceMenu_preCacheKiller.dll
SKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll Version: 1.14.3.0
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Recognised Plugins
======================================
These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.
Skyrim.esm Active
Update.esm Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
* Contains dirty edits: 73 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here
Dawnguard.esm Active
* Contains dirty edits: 607 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
HearthFires.esm Active
* Contains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here
Dragonborn.esm Active
* Contains dirty edits: 57 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here
ApachiiHair.esm Active
ApachiiHairFemales.esm Active
RaceCompatibility.esm Active
Skyrim Project Optimization.esm Active
JSwords.esm Active
LevelersTower.esm Active
SPIKE.esm Active
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
* Requires: Skyrim 1.9.29+
* Note: Recommend to use the Unofficial Dawnguard Patch ("http://www.darkcreations.org/forums/files/file/352-unofficial-dawnguard-patch/") in addition to
Dawnguard. This is need for correct work with Dawnguard.
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp Active
USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp Active
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active
* Requires: Skyrim 1.9.29+
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Active
skyradio.esp Active
Weapons and Armor fixes.esp Active
* Error: Delete. Already included in Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
* Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here
Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp Active
* Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch
BooksBooksBooks.esp
Console Books.esp
* Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here
IngredientsOfTamriel.esp Active
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp Active
PerkPointPotion.esp Active
Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.esp Active
Convenient Horses.esp Active
AutoHarvest.esp
WetandCold.esp
SkyUI.esp Active
iHUD.esp Active
BlackSacramentArmor.esp Active
BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp Active
Books+.esp
* Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 18 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here
Cloaks.esp Active
Cloaks - No Imperial.esp
* Note: Use only one cloaks*esp
Cloaks - Player Only.esp
* Note: Use only one cloaks*esp
EliteRogueArmour.esp Active
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp Active
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp Active
Dr_Bandolier.esp Active
HarvestOverhaul.esp Active
HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp Active
DeadlyDragons.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
DeadlyDragonsSpells.esp Active
DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp Active
DeadlyMonsters.esp Active
SkyRe_Main.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}
* Incompatible with: ACE Speech.esp
* Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here
* Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'
* Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/13652") mod.
* Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:
* Note: [Actor]
* Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000
* Note: [Combat]
* Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
* Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
* Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
* Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0
SkyRe_Combat.esp Active
SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active
SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active
SkyRe_Survivalism.esp Active
* Requires: Chesko_Frostfall.esp
buildablehouse.esp Active
EBM.esp
* Contains dirty edits: 24 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here
* Warning: This file contains 3 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions
should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") is located here
Skyrim Home.esp Active
AchieveThat.esp Active
Books+ (No skill books).esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active
Immersive Weapons.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active
Predator Vision.esp Active
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active
MidasSkyrim.esp Active
Phenderix's Magic Evolved - Cleaned.esp
* Note: Use only one of Phenderix's Magic Evolved esp
Phenderix's Magic Evolved - Cleaned - No Perks.esp Active
* Note: Use only one of Phenderix's Magic Evolved esp
ShoutCD.esp Active
TrueDragonblood-DawnguardV001.esp Active
* Incompatible with: ShoutCD.esp
ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp Active
ACE Realistic Fighting.esp Active
The Dance of Death.esp Active
* Warning: Dawnguard detected. Use The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp instead.
ACE BYOG.esp
ACE Speech.esp
ACE Archery.esp
ACE Armor.esp
ACE Enchanting.esp
ACE Magic.esp
ACE Melee.esp
ACE Smithing.esp
ACE Synergy.esp
N_43 Hair Pack.esp Active
LunariRace.esp Active
NewSuccubusRace.esp Active
* Contains dirty edits: 94 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here
* Warning: Mod contains undeleted French data that might cause conflicts. If this becomes a problem, please contact the author and urge them to clean their
mod.
OrientalRace.esp Active
TemptressVixen.esp Active
ApprenticeOfThuum.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active
* Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see
special instructions on mod page ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/14037").
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active
SupermodelDawnguard.esp Active
Blaze Of Eventide.esp
BVLT - Human.esp Active
* Warning: This file contains unexpected (or out of order) records and should be removed.
CerwidenCompanion.esp Active
SGFChastity.esp
SGFEris.esp
SGFKodelia.esp
SGFLucretia.esp
SGFSabeena.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp Active
SkyRe_Races.esp Active
* Incompatible with: EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
Cartographers Map Markers.esp Active
* Contains dirty edits: 281 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here
RaceMenu.esp Active
RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active
* Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable
RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
ReProccer.esp Active
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The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules
functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or
description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.
HmmWhatToWear.esm Active
HmmWhatToWearDawnGuard.esm Active
WestWindAssault.esp Active
GypsyEyesCaravan.esp Active
Lovergirl Race.esp Active
VL - Trans. Overhaul Ashen.esp
TNT - HWtW Applicifier T3nd0's Stats.esp Active
TrueDragonblood-DragonboornV001.esp Active
TemperableArrows.esp Active
Merged Patch.esp

 

 

 

And as for the TES5Edit, I guess it's just a force of habit from FO3 and FNV, because Gopher suggested one for those two

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Merged Patch: The merged patch should generally not be used unless you are familiar with reading records in TES5Edit and can manually edit the merged patch to make it functional. While the merged patch function in TES5Edit can merge records that Wrye Bash (currently) cannot touch (e.g. NPC records), the algorithm is not as 'intelligent' as the Bash Patch's (e.g. bash tags) and conflicting records that are not intended to be merged (for example, those intended to 'replace') will also be merged (thus necessitating manual editing after its generation). This was the case even with FNVEdit and FO3Edit, but many users didn't know about it.

 

So unless that merged patch has been manually checked and edited by you to ensure the above parameters, I would recommend you disable it first and see if it fixes your issue.

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Well, I'm very experienced with TESVEdit, that's why I use it. Same with FONVEdit and FO3Edit, I know how (through trial and error mostly) make a merged patch and make it work. I don't think that's the problem though, because even without it still happens. I've also noticed with some seemingly random armor pieces that there is no collision mesh. I wonder if the problems may be related, since I also can't move the draugr corpses or any bones. Oddly though, the black sacrament armor mod adds an effect to the Ancient Black Sacrament Assassin's Bow that reduces the enemy to a pile of bones and I can loot those just fine... I've already started a clean save, but I think I may just have to reinstall and try my luck with that

 

I've found that If I reanimate any of the draugr and kill them again so that they turn into an ash pile I can loot them...

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You should also clean the mods flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits.'

 

I am not sure if you are suppose to use SkyRe with ACE. Both are overhauls and their edits overlap. Try starting a new game without SkyRe and see if that is the cause. A lot of users have reported they found errors in the ReProccer. Since I don't use Skyre, I can't confirm if this is an issue with the ReProccer of the problem is on the user end.

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Alas, playing without skyre didn't help. But at least it motivated me to fix my reproccer... I've also completely uninstalled ace.

 

One fixed reproccer and bashed patch later and everything works fine. I'm not exactly sure how it fixed it, but I won't question it

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