Waterfront crash

[vulkanis2ug]

For some reason, any time I quick travel to the waterfront my game crashes, and if I quick travel to the goddess store I can take one step before a crash. If I try to get in through normal means it'll crash as soon as I get in the waterfront vicinity.

 

I don't have the slightest idea what could be causing it, so I would really appreciate it if someone could look at my mod order and tell me whatsup, thanks..

 

Oblivion.esm

CM Partners.esm

Cobl Main.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

VampireFaceBugFix.esm

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

CM Partners.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Glue MW Ingred.esp

Shivering Isles Horse.esp

10Physic Magic effect ENG.esp

10Physic Magic effect ENG-new balace.esp

77_Umpa_Animation.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

Ancient Elven Sorcerer - EV.esp

AsianElves.esp

CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp

CTAddPose_v_1.esp

CuteElf11.esp

EFGAddPose.esp

Elves Of Lineage II.esp

HazeElves.esp

HGEC Rogue Mage & Scoundrel.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

Nec - Extra Mystic Elf Face.esp

Nec Character Eva-Remake.esp

Nec Character Karla Edited.esp

Nec Mystic Dark Elf-Remake.esp

Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp

Nec-Character_Clair.esp

Nec-Character_Karla.esp

Nec-Elf_Kaleah.esp

personality_idles2.esp

personality_idles3b.esp

personality_idles3b_nc.esp

personality_idlespcb.esp

shinyEmotions.esp

Slof's Sexy Anims.esp

Soqui Race.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

adelina.esp

Ancient Silver Armor.esp

Argent Iron Armor.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Gold-Heavy.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Gold-Heavy-Alt-helm.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Gold-Light.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Gold-Light-Alt-helm.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Heavy.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Heavy-Alt-helm.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Light.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Light-Alt-helm.esp

ArynnsDrowWitchHGEC.esp

AT2 01-Shiki Armor Set.esp

AW_banbana.esp

Battle China Dress.esp

Battledress.esp

BlackLuster.esp

Blood Elves and Egyptian Armors for Exnems body.esp

Blood Illusion and Arcania armors for Exnem's body.esp

ColourWheels Sexy Servant Uniform v1_2.esp

Colourwheels_Sexy_Sweetclothes.esp

Dancers clothes.esp

Dark_Mistress.esp

DarkIllusionArmor.esp

Deceiver's Armour.esp

Diano2_UltraLite.esp

DianoArmor2.esp

DM-Elite Witch.esp

DM-Lingerie.esp

DMACArmor.esp

ExnemEC_Warrior01.esp

Gloria Armor.esp

GoddessArmor_Exnem.esp

Growlfs Hot Clothes.esp

Hentai_Compilation.esp

hentai_NightPrincess_ru.esp

HGEC Indigo Armor Recoloured.esp

HGEC_Draconic_Armor.esp

IvyArmor.esp

javbmb.esp

javrmb.esp

JB Catsuit Variants.esp

Journeyman_armor.esp

KDCirclets.esp

Lich King's Helm PLAYA.esp

Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

LKF_EY_Vampirehunter.esp

Llirala Verano's Clothing.esp

Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp

MHSNfuru.esp

MHSNKirin.esp

Nightshade_Armor.esp

ninjamask.esp

Noble Plate Armory.esp

NPR Knight Armor.esp

Queensarmory.esp

Rogue Sun's Blood Lust Dress.esp

SchwarzeKatzeArmor.esp

SK_Berserk_v0.6.esp

Slaveknight armor.esp

Slof's Male Clothing.esp

Sorceress_Armors.esp

SwordDancer.esp

tda_Armoury_BETA.esp

tona_shadow-walker.esp

tona_simple_dress-armor_ver3.esp

tona_whitesquall-armor_ver2.esp

UFF & RM Black Plate Armor.esp

UFF & ROBERT Assassin Elite Armor.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

JB Catsuit Weapons.esp

mythsandlegends.esp

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

Sacredblade.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Weather_non-HDR_2.1.2_bugfree.esp

fwBoethiaCustomRaceFix.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

Housewives v101.esp

Spell Delete.esp

Lynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp

VaultsofCyrodiil.esp

BasicInstinct.esp

hilarity_121.esp

MidasSpells.esp

The Sixth Element - no willpower.esp

dark & necromancer spells.esp

Magus Demon Fistos.esp

Aliyah.esp

CM Sandra.esp

CM_Kailinda.esp

DAClair.esp

DACog-Rein.esp

DADark Seducers.esp

DADemons.esp

DAEluna.esp

DAEva.esp

DAFeria.esp

DAGolden Saint.esp

DAKaleahSuccubus.esp

DALineage2Elves.esp

DAMeridiaKatrina.esp

DANecsKarla.esp

DARaewyn.esp

DATiamsGirls.esp

DAValeriaCuteElf.esp

jaysonandcompany.esp

kgtVeeda.esp

LAURAnpc.esp

morenpCS.esp

RTT.esp

Sonia.esp

Castle_Almgard-V2.esp

Dibella Temple Final.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp

IC Island Estate v1.1.esp

BravilSeaDomes.esp

bartholm.esp

CasinoIC01.esp

kalikuts_raretradegoods2_0.esp

Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp

BattleHorn Advanced.esp

Celestiel - EV.esp

UFF Gypsy Market.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

Knights.esp

Pats Business Mod---Shop Version 1.6.esp

Merchant_Tim.esp

JQ-AssassinQuest.esp

Legion Faction Mod.esp

TOTF.esp

VHBloodlines 1.2.esp

Shock color.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

SW01Plus.esp

[dezdimona]

General Load-Order Guidelines

Here are the guidelines that I adhere to, personally.

 

~ Unofficial Oblivon Patch should always be first on the list. The fixes are great, but most aren't essential, so if a mod overwrites them its not a big deal, and the fixes have the potential for screwing up other mods if loaded later.

 

~ Offical Content (DLC's) should be loaded last, until you complete all quests associated with them (that includes buying all furniture for the houses and whatnot). Once they're complete, they can be safely moved up in the list. This is especially important for Knights of the Nine, which will have some fairly major problems unless loaded last (unless you get the UOP for KotN)

 

~ Major overhaul mods (OOO, Frans, MMM) should be loaded near the end. That gives you the most complete experience with any of those particular mods. It also lets you carefully choose which other mods to load afterwards... only move mods that you know will conflict and that you want the changes from. For example, I have Improved Soul Gems below OOO because I know that OOO changes the icons of some of the SG's, and ISG needs to be below to show through.

 

Some people will recommend putting larger mods first, but personally I disagree. There are a number of mods out there that make minor tweaks, and loading after a large mod will end up completely overwriting a chunk from one of the bigger mods because of the way conflicts work in Oblivion (even one minor change will take precedence over the entire record... for example, simply tweaking the speed of a weapon can cause every stat of that weapon to be retained to vanilla levels if loaded later).

 

So basically, it stacks up like this...

 

Oblivion.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch

<Minor Mods / DLC's (Post-Completion)>

<Major Overhaul Mod/Mods>

<Mods that specifically conflict with overhauls and need to take precedence>

<DLC's (Pre-Completion)>

 

 

 

Expanded Load-Order Guidelines

by dev_akm

 

I would extend this to include:

 

Oblivion.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch

<Weather/Environment/Sound Mods>

<Minor Mods/New Items/Houses/DLC's (Post-Completion)>

<Major Overhaul Mods>

<Mods that specifically conflict with overhauls and need to take precedence>

<DLC's (Pre-Completion)>

<Quests>

<Compatibility Patches/UOMP/Merged Leveled Lists>

 

And a special-case warning for Knights.esp (Knights of the Nine) -- you may not be able to move it earlier than some other mods (some people have had problems after moving it before OOO, for example).

 

That's basically the structure I use and I have 140+ mods working well together.

 

Another way of describing this (posted by DMan77):

....

Oblivion

unoffical patch

Deeper realism mods that add sights and sounds

added content like weapons/items

gameplay changes, like 'must eat and sleep'

The OOO type

the 'new begining' type mod..

[thebigba]

For some reason, any time I quick travel to the waterfront my game crashes, and if I quick travel to the goddess store I can take one step before a crash. If I try to get in through normal means it'll crash as soon as I get in the waterfront vicinity.

 

I don't have the slightest idea what could be causing it, so I would really appreciate it if someone could look at my mod order and tell me whatsup, thanks..

 

Oblivion.esm

CM Partners.esm

Cobl Main.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

VampireFaceBugFix.esm

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

CM Partners.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Glue MW Ingred.esp

Shivering Isles Horse.esp

10Physic Magic effect ENG.esp

10Physic Magic effect ENG-new balace.esp

77_Umpa_Animation.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

Ancient Elven Sorcerer - EV.esp

AsianElves.esp

CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp

CTAddPose_v_1.esp

CuteElf11.esp

EFGAddPose.esp

Elves Of Lineage II.esp

HazeElves.esp

HGEC Rogue Mage & Scoundrel.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

Nec - Extra Mystic Elf Face.esp

Nec Character Eva-Remake.esp

Nec Character Karla Edited.esp

Nec Mystic Dark Elf-Remake.esp

Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp

Nec-Character_Clair.esp

Nec-Character_Karla.esp

Nec-Elf_Kaleah.esp

personality_idles2.esp

personality_idles3b.esp

personality_idles3b_nc.esp

personality_idlespcb.esp

shinyEmotions.esp

Slof's Sexy Anims.esp

Soqui Race.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

adelina.esp

Ancient Silver Armor.esp

Argent Iron Armor.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Gold-Heavy.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Gold-Heavy-Alt-helm.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Gold-Light.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Gold-Light-Alt-helm.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Heavy.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Heavy-Alt-helm.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Light.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Light-Alt-helm.esp

ArynnsDrowWitchHGEC.esp

AT2 01-Shiki Armor Set.esp

AW_banbana.esp

Battle China Dress.esp

Battledress.esp

BlackLuster.esp

Blood Elves and Egyptian Armors for Exnems body.esp

Blood Illusion and Arcania armors for Exnem's body.esp

ColourWheels Sexy Servant Uniform v1_2.esp

Colourwheels_Sexy_Sweetclothes.esp

Dancers clothes.esp

Dark_Mistress.esp

DarkIllusionArmor.esp

Deceiver's Armour.esp

Diano2_UltraLite.esp

DianoArmor2.esp

DM-Elite Witch.esp

DM-Lingerie.esp

DMACArmor.esp

ExnemEC_Warrior01.esp

Gloria Armor.esp

GoddessArmor_Exnem.esp

Growlfs Hot Clothes.esp

Hentai_Compilation.esp

hentai_NightPrincess_ru.esp

HGEC Indigo Armor Recoloured.esp

HGEC_Draconic_Armor.esp

IvyArmor.esp

javbmb.esp

javrmb.esp

JB Catsuit Variants.esp

Journeyman_armor.esp

KDCirclets.esp

Lich King's Helm PLAYA.esp

Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

LKF_EY_Vampirehunter.esp

Llirala Verano's Clothing.esp

Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp

MHSNfuru.esp

MHSNKirin.esp

Nightshade_Armor.esp

ninjamask.esp

Noble Plate Armory.esp

NPR Knight Armor.esp

Queensarmory.esp

Rogue Sun's Blood Lust Dress.esp

SchwarzeKatzeArmor.esp

SK_Berserk_v0.6.esp

Slaveknight armor.esp

Slof's Male Clothing.esp

Sorceress_Armors.esp

SwordDancer.esp

tda_Armoury_BETA.esp

tona_shadow-walker.esp

tona_simple_dress-armor_ver3.esp

tona_whitesquall-armor_ver2.esp

UFF & RM Black Plate Armor.esp

UFF & ROBERT Assassin Elite Armor.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

JB Catsuit Weapons.esp

mythsandlegends.esp

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

Sacredblade.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Weather_non-HDR_2.1.2_bugfree.esp

fwBoethiaCustomRaceFix.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

Housewives v101.esp

Spell Delete.esp

Lynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp

VaultsofCyrodiil.esp

BasicInstinct.esp

hilarity_121.esp

MidasSpells.esp

The Sixth Element - no willpower.esp

dark & necromancer spells.esp

Magus Demon Fistos.esp

Aliyah.esp

CM Sandra.esp

CM_Kailinda.esp

DAClair.esp

DACog-Rein.esp

DADark Seducers.esp

DADemons.esp

DAEluna.esp

DAEva.esp

DAFeria.esp

DAGolden Saint.esp

DAKaleahSuccubus.esp

DALineage2Elves.esp

DAMeridiaKatrina.esp

DANecsKarla.esp

DARaewyn.esp

DATiamsGirls.esp

DAValeriaCuteElf.esp

jaysonandcompany.esp

kgtVeeda.esp

LAURAnpc.esp

morenpCS.esp

RTT.esp

Sonia.esp

Castle_Almgard-V2.esp

Dibella Temple Final.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp

IC Island Estate v1.1.esp

BravilSeaDomes.esp

bartholm.esp

CasinoIC01.esp

kalikuts_raretradegoods2_0.esp

Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp

BattleHorn Advanced.esp

Celestiel - EV.esp

UFF Gypsy Market.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

Knights.esp

Pats Business Mod---Shop Version 1.6.esp

Merchant_Tim.esp

JQ-AssassinQuest.esp

Legion Faction Mod.esp

TOTF.esp

VHBloodlines 1.2.esp

Shock color.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

SW01Plus.esp

 

You seem to have alot of mods that place things in the imperial city, I.E. Armor mods, Appache goddess store, Things like that try deactivating the apache store and then playing ... If thats is not the problem the try looking for any mods that over lap each other ( read the read me on each mods location.) You can troubleshoot by deactivating mods and testing in game over and over... with that list it looks like you will be having fun :-)

[bben46]

Often, a crash like this is from something added by a mod that was subsequently removed. If you put in a mod, then made a save with that mod, Then load the save with the mod no longer present. It can't find the change and may crash.

 

So it may not be in you mod order, but in what is no longer in your mod list.

[vulkanis2ug]

Thanks for the replies, as for thebigba I actually want to keep the apache goddess store :P but I'll try deactivating a couple

[myrmaad]

Thanks for the replies, as for thebigba I actually want to keep the apache goddess store :P but I'll try deactivating a couple

I think you might have better luck thinking about what Bben mentioned. If you have installed Wrye Bash, all you have to do is click on a savegame in your list and it will show you any mods that are missing from your current list that were present in that save. Makes trouble shooting much easier. If you go the other way of disabling all the mods that modify the waterfront district (don't bother with other mods that alter the IC, you only want to look at mods that alter the cell where you're crashing, after all) then it will take a bit longer and be quite inexact, you could go through all the trouble of turning everything off and still not know the true root of the crash.

 

Avoid saving while you're troubleshooting or make sure you have a good pre-troubleshooting expedition savegame to go back to, otherwise you could end up altering and losing any of those mod items or quests.

 

If you use OBMM you can run it's conflict detector, and note all the conflicts listed that alter the Waterfront District. That will narrow down the mods you need to try turning off.

 

And if you really want to see what changes your mods are making, go download Tes4View and Edit (here on Nexus).

[Eaglezero6205]

Try disabling all your waterFront mods Such as possibly Farmers Strike back where it puts a basement

in the abandoned house of the waterfront dist. where you can buy Farmtools as weapons.

 

Ive had my game crash Once when fast traveling to the waterfront but ONCE is all.

 

And I only have the above mod with Hash Armor M-16, M-203, Kabar,Camo Armor,Alex Scorpian Armor, Horse Armor, Expert MArksman Oh and I think the Leyawin Bridge mod is what Caused mine

along with the ROWBOATS so I dont check those anymore. the reason I ran these two was for the

No boundaries on Cyrodil ,However there are other ways to remove the boundaries.

 

Hope this helps. And good luck

[vulkanis2ug]

Thanks for the replies, as for thebigba I actually want to keep the apache goddess store :P but I'll try deactivating a couple

I think you might have better luck thinking about what Bben mentioned. If you have installed Wrye Bash, all you have to do is click on a savegame in your list and it will show you any mods that are missing from your current list that were present in that save. Makes trouble shooting much easier. If you go the other way of disabling all the mods that modify the waterfront district (don't bother with other mods that alter the IC, you only want to look at mods that alter the cell where you're crashing, after all) then it will take a bit longer and be quite inexact, you could go through all the trouble of turning everything off and still not know the true root of the crash.

 

Avoid saving while you're troubleshooting or make sure you have a good pre-troubleshooting expedition savegame to go back to, otherwise you could end up altering and losing any of those mod items or quests.

 

If you use OBMM you can run it's conflict detector, and note all the conflicts listed that alter the Waterfront District. That will narrow down the mods you need to try turning off.

 

And if you really want to see what changes your mods are making, go download Tes4View and Edit (here on Nexus).

 

 

Yea I do have wrye bash so I'll try that out first, I also have OBMM but I don't know how to run the conflict detector if you could point me to that, thanks again

[bben46]

Wrye Bash is much better at finding this type of conflict. With OBMM you have to drill down to see just what it is that is conflicting and it takes quite a while with a lot of mods.

[vulkanis2ug]

how exactly do I go about finding conflicts