philosopher101 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I somewhat feel that a value for posts in the loungue woudl be good and bad.I am a logn time participant of the Lougue games and a common sight at the Goddess bar and grill, (except when everyone else is there) and i would like to have my own personal title that coexsists with my name. However, these reasons do not add up with everything else, i do spend littel time on the others topics, i have posted questions about Oblivion before, and am gratefull for the answer but i don't go out of my way to see what Deud has been up to in Cyrodil.It would be fari to say that i am not well-known outside of the disccusions section of the forums, everysicne my debut and subsequnetial dissatar of "philosophical question of the week" in had become quite sheepish, but encouragement retunred to me, if only partially. Were i to get credit for my posts in the Lounge i believe my total would be near, 350 or so, a condierable amoutn and if credit was continued to be given i would certainly have my custom name in a week or two. Untill then i think i'll have to wait for next christmas so i can be formerly called... "Worst Vapmire-Slayer Ever" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 many of the posts and topics here deal with and are invovled with "role playing" and as such are important part of this community as is the druids forum. Maybe try reading some of the things posted in it before sayind how unimportant this part of the site is to the community. I have found the info you leave in the forums very helpful,but frankly talking to a 13 year old child like you just have leaves me thought to reconsider how much respect you may have garnered from me. I don't dispute that there are some topics of value here, and that those topics aren't, in themselves important to those who have made them. My comments were directed mostly at threads like; http://thenexusforums.com/index.php?showtopic=57959 Currently at 390 pages.http://thenexusforums.com/index.php?showtopic=86184 Currently at 90 pages.http://thenexusforums.com/index.php?showtopic=73842 Currently at 186 pages.http://thenexusforums.com/index.php?showtopic=69943 Currently at 1279 pages.http://thenexusforums.com/index.php?showtopic=80134 Currently at 169 pages. And the dozens of "post whatever you want" kinds of threads which have been popping up in the last few months.I'm not disputing that these threads may not be fun, and I don't mean to suggest that these threads may not be important to how some choose to socialize. My dispute is that this is a gaming community, not a social community. As much as you may be personally invested in these threads, they are still secondary to what this forum is about, atleast in my opinion. The way several of those threads are setup, people can post 2-5 word responses for multiple pages. Sure, it may be fun, but how is bans deus ultima for saying ban alot.I just like Dezi,DOUBLE-ban buddah for being too cool.Sorry buddah but your level of coolness is too high for the forum :DBANS JOSH FOR BANNING ME FOR SAYING BAN.caps... -_-banning Deus for banning SheppardFor his annoyingness, messing up of the snow arena, and all round dragon degrading, I banish Spyro to the depths of Hades!ban alot for being... ... uh... alot^ban, for not coming up with legit reason to ban!I ban Marcus Wolfe for getting to ban twice. for 169 pages helping the community? Yeah, it's fun, but is it worth allowing those who do it 500+ times the privillage of having a custom title? You're right, I am a bit snobbish about this. I've worked hard getting my post count where it is by helping the people on this forum, same as you. I don't personally ask for the recognition, and havn't personally found it necessary to give myself my own custom title, but it is there just the same, it is something gained through beng part of this community. It's nice to look at the post count statictics and see oneself amongs so many other people you recognize as also being a part of the community. Unfortunately, many of the threads in the off topic lounge are rather spam happy. It is more because of these threads, and not the more meaningful threads here, that posts don't count. That was what I trying to get across. There are certainly some important threads in this section, hence the "and cause many legendary threads to go poof" comment. If you were going to start counting posts, you would have to have tighter requirements on what can be posted here... Essentially making it like any other section. And some of those threads, by nature, can only exist here. The debate is not the value of some, several posts here, but on the value of ALL posts in this section. For every good example of a relevent, thought out post, there are 20-30 bad ones. That is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarya Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Vagrant0, that is actually true. But, well, those that post 500 times a comment consisting of "cool" to booby girls pictures or inexperienced newbies that complain about just everything they encounter are allowed. Fair, huh? Yeah, those contribute to the community much, much more. No, I don't support the author, just the opposite. It's just that The Lounge still doesn't deserve to be so... um... despiced. At least in comparison. And... that really lessens the recognition value postcount has NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkatu Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I somehow feel attracted by this place and I realy don't give a crap about post count. I feel great :D :yes: I'm a member since 2007 and never posted on the forum before yesterday and I don't plan to, but this place is an exception. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarya Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 You probably posted in the threads attached to files and pictures. That counts as forum. Oh, and that counts for postcount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Vagrant0, that is actually true. But, well, those that post 500 times a comment consisting of "cool" to booby girls pictures or inexperienced newbies that complain about just everything they encounter are allowed. Fair, huh? Yeah, those contribute to the community much, much more. No, I don't support the author, just the opposite. It's just that The Lounge still doesn't deserve to be so... um... despiced. At least in comparison.Yes, I also believe that the image and file upload sections shouldn't be counted either... But I believe that has already been answered to. Afterall, sitebot wants his share of recognition too... I dunno, I always just saw this section as being just here for fun, a place to post random stuff without having to alienate or annoy another community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarya Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Anyway, postcount is hardly THAT important for new more draconian methods to be invented, so no need to make half of forum sections postcount-free. After all, what indicates the member's value is kudos system, not postcount. And kudos can't be spammed, as it can be given one per person and multiple accounts are not allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkatu Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 You probably posted in the threads attached to files and pictures. That counts as forum. Oh, and that counts for postcount. Yup, most of my comments are feedback to Oblivion mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezdimona Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 The debate is not the value of some, several posts here, but on the value of ALL posts in this section. For every good example of a relevent, thought out post, there are 20-30 bad ones. That is the problem.mycomment wasn't about the topics in the lounge per say. My comment was directed at you calling a 13 year old boy...lazy!!! Nice way to urge someone to post and encouage that they take a more active part in the community.And since when does a "gaming community" deal only with mods and factory made games? Many here don't play oblivion so their "lazy" in your eyes.Do you take an active role in your RL community by participating in town meetings,or take an active role in city state or county and country meetings? Do you supply any input to those or are you just "lazy too"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted269910User Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I think Vagrant chose that 'age' as a random pointer, as I think you full well know that there are lazy people from the age of 10 till 70, it is just a habit to choose to point out the younger ones and in my opinion the reason for that is that they'll still be able to learn otherwise. They're not 'driven' to respond in a certain way, but also due to the fact that the majority of the kids of that age are 'brats', with the few exceptions of pre-matured individuals. Now not to delve any deeper on that, you also have to remember that this IS a gaming community, heavily so, but as a counterbalance we have have The Lounge, Druid's Garden and the Roleplaying forums, also note that not a single forum I have ever seen/been in, has allowed the off-topic section to increase post count and I sincerely don't see a reason why they should. Now to argue for what I stated above, the kudos system is nice and all that, but can you deny the fact that still most people tend to look at the post count more than the amount of kudos a person has, unless the amount of kudos is ridiculously(I will not define my personal view on 'high'.) high? Also the amount of posts tends to show that the person might actually have some knowledge of the things that the forum revolves around, and that might give the wrong impression if someone with say, 7000+ posts, all from the off-topic section goes and argues about something that he might not know anything of in reality. If this happens to a newbie, he/she will likely be confused/trust the word of 'the one with the big post count', instead of double checking on the facts and that can cause unnecessary headaches to everyone, especially if it happens in a forum like tech support. This is simply one example of how things could go wrong and I can give a more specific example if necessary. Too many people, too often take the big post count as a representative of reliable source of info and even if there were a few reliable information sources spending their time in the off-topic section, that would not be enough to tip the balance when you consider the majority that may not know Jack Schitt. So, I basically see the fact that posting in the off-topic section doesn't raise your post count as a safety measure towards the newbies who might mistake the high post count as a reliable source of info and honestly saying it's not enough in some cases, to limit the amount of how wrong they could be about a reliable information source, into only those who actually have played/discussed the main point of this forum, Oblivion/Morrowind and now FO3, and should have at least a general level of knowledge about what they're talking of. ~Elraine P.S. Remember that this is my personal view and opinion on the subject, which you may or may not agree with, I just thought I'd share what I thought of it, should it make any sense to you. I also apologize for my, possibly, horrible grammar. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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