Brooksed Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Well, I'm going to post in the Lounge mostly, so I'm all for lounge posting (bearing in mind that what i've seen there aren't that many people posting here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezdimona Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I think Vagrant chose that 'age' as a random pointer, as I think you full well know that there are lazy people from the age of 10 till 70, it is just a habit to choose to point out the younger ones and in my opinion the reason for that is that they'll still be able to learn otherwise. They're not 'driven' to respond in a certain way, but also due to the fact that the majority of the kids of that age are 'brats', with the few exceptions of pre-matured individuals. Now not to delve any deeper on that, you also have to remember that this IS a gaming community, heavily so, but as a counterbalance we have have The Lounge, Druid's Garden and the Roleplaying forums, also note that not a single forum I have ever seen/been in, has allowed the off-topic section to increase post count and I sincerely don't see a reason why they should. Now to argue for what I stated above, the kudos system is nice and all that, but can you deny the fact that still most people tend to look at the post count more than the amount of kudos a person has, unless the amount of kudos is ridiculously(I will not define my personal view on 'high'.) high? Also the amount of posts tends to show that the person might actually have some knowledge of the things that the forum revolves around, and that might give the wrong impression if someone with say, 7000+ posts, all from the off-topic section goes and argues about something that he might not know anything of in reality. If this happens to a newbie, he/she will likely be confused/trust the word of 'the one with the big post count', instead of double checking on the facts and that can cause unnecessary headaches to everyone, especially if it happens in a forum like tech support. This is simply one example of how things could go wrong and I can give a more specific example if necessary. Too many people, too often take the big post count as a representative of reliable source of info and even if there were a few reliable information sources spending their time in the off-topic section, that would not be enough to tip the balance when you consider the majority that may not know Jack Schitt. So, I basically see the fact that posting in the off-topic section doesn't raise your post count as a safety measure towards the newbies who might mistake the high post count as a reliable source of info and honestly saying it's not enough in some cases, to limit the amount of how wrong they could be about a reliable information source, into only those who actually have played/discussed the main point of this forum, Oblivion/Morrowind and now FO3, and should have at least a general level of knowledge about what they're talking of. ~Elraine P.S. Remember that this is my personal view and opinion on the subject, which you may or may not agree with, I just thought I'd share what I thought of it, should it make any sense to you. I also apologize for my, possibly, horrible grammar. :confused:pardon me put that person is a 13 year old> That I know for a fact!!!!!! And rude is rude no matter how much you or anyone else tries to Justify it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted269910User Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I did not try to justify it and if it came across that way, I apologize. In that regard my point was that he could've aswell said 55 year olds. Maturity is not something that age necessarily defines, I personally don't judge/have an opinion on anyone based on their age. What matters is how they post/talk to others and the general level of knowledge they have of the discussion that is taking place and if they don't know what they're talking about, will they admit it or deny and fight for what may be totally wrong in reality. I hope this clarifies that part of my post a bit more. ~Elraine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezdimona Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I did not try to justify it and if it came across that way, I apologize. In that regard my point was that he could've aswell said 55 year olds. Maturity is not something that age necessarily defines, I personally don't judge/have an opinion on anyone based on their age. What matters is how they post/talk to others and the general level of knowledge they have of the discussion that is taking place and if they don't know what they're talking about, will they admit it or deny and fight for what may be totally wrong in reality. I hope this clarifies that part of my post a bit more. ~Elraineit does,and if my reply came across as an affront against you,it was not!...sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 The debate is not the value of some, several posts here, but on the value of ALL posts in this section. For every good example of a relevent, thought out post, there are 20-30 bad ones. That is the problem.mycomment wasn't about the topics in the lounge per say. My comment was directed at you calling a 13 year old boy...lazy!!! Nice way to urge someone to post and encouage that they take a more active part in the community.And since when does a "gaming community" deal only with mods and factory made games? Many here don't play oblivion so their "lazy" in your eyes.Do you take an active role in your RL community by participating in town meetings,or take an active role in city state or county and country meetings? Do you supply any input to those or are you just "lazy too"?First, I didn't call him lazy... he called himself that. I was merely pointing out that his lazyness for not wanting to spend time in other sections of the forum might be why he has such a disagreement about post count. Second, I don't normally look at people's ages. I answer based on what was posted, and entirely that. I don't recall ever suggesting that his age was an issue. As you probably know, there are several people in the 12-15 year old group who are rather capable at what they do, and are valued members of this community. There are also 12-15 year olds who are just outright immature, unwilling to reason, and make no attempts to hide this. There was NOTHING in his post to convey his age, so don't know where you're coming from on any of this. I quoted his EXACT words, if he had a problem with those words, he probably shouldn't have used them. If someone says "God, I feel so stupid, I just handed a perfect stranger my wallet" you should be able to agree with that person without themselves, or anyone else, getting on your case about it. Third, I really don't understand where all this hostility is coming from. What gave you the impression that I only value those who post on Oblivion Mods, or even Oblivion for that matter? I'm not sure if you've noticed, but this forum covers topics from several other games, as well as having areas related to less specific games and systems. It also has sections for Tech help, Debates, and literary works. Just because I am not an active poster in these areas does not mean I don't acknowledge that they are also part of this community. I just usually have nothing of considderable value to contribute to those sections. Most of my posts are in the Oblivion section because I personally spend time modding Oblivion, that is all. If I played Eve or Battlefield 2, modded Morrowind, or if spore was a playable game, I would likely be regularly posting there as well. So, seriously, where is all this hostility coming from? Not that I particuarly care what you think of me, you're welcome to feel however you want, but I do think there's some sort of misunderstanding here. Besides the point, it has kinda derailed the thread a bit. We're talking about the merits of allowing posts in this section change your post count, and really, it's Robin's decision, and I believe they have already spoken on the matter. Forgive me for being male, and not being able to grasp the subtle nuances of the things people say. This is kinda why I stick to those areas of the forum I do. It's just too easy to annoy people when you're blatently honest with your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezdimona Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 whatever..... My belief is no,posting in the lounge is and should not be supplied to post count. And I'm not hostile toward you,If I was you'd have gotten a PM from me, which you did not..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracoRazgriz Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I have to Agree with Vagrant on most points, However I Do Agree with Dezi that....that was Pretty harsh to a 13 year old. Also I would like to point out that for some of us making friends and hanging out with them brings us more joy.....Like me for example, It's what drew me to the Nexus in the first place and to count the Lounge as non-crucial is wrong. There are many here that if you took away their post counts or the mods they release ( Such as Dezi, Aeryn, or Lisn ) they provide One crucial service to the Community that you can't ignore.....they make people feel welcome, and I'm sorry but that earns My Respect more than some silly post count or mod upload. I don't have the highest post count or loads of kudos but I do provide some small service to the Community, you might not find it so but I do. I make Signature Banners, and your probably thinking why don't they just learn to make their own.......while I do encourage those who start making their own sigs, I make them for those who don't. That's My way of giving back to the Community, I'm not a modder.....I have no modding skills to speak of whatsoever, that doesn't mean I don't want to but that I'm unable to as the Computer I use is too outdated to effectively mod anything of worth to the Community. That aside, My main point is this.......Just because someone has a low post count/doesn't contribute outside of the Lounge that doesn't mean they don't contribute in some small way OR are any less of a person then you. - Raz Note> I know this is late but I had to get off earlier in a hurry......But I just felt like at least giving my two cence on the matter.......so if this has already been addressed I apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XanAlderon Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 Alright, arguments or not you have all sided against me. I'll go and earn some posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkatu Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Alright, arguments or not you have all sided against me. I'll go and earn some posts. That's right mister, you are grounded!!.... oh, wait let me try this again *cough, cough* That's right mister, go earn some post for the love of your title! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philosopher101 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I think the greatest disapointment here, i sthat i'm not earning posts for arguing about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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