CTD when attempting to enter Windhelm

[Nocturnstalker]

So I recently picked Skyrim back up after a year and some change of letting it sit around. I did a fresh install and went through making sure my mods are all up to date. After a bit of work I got it to run but now when I attempt to enter a building or move to another area the game CTDs. I disabled saving on wait/travel all of that. I have a papyrus log but I have no understanding of what it is saying.

Any help would be much appreciated.

 

[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM] Error: File "KnapsackEnhanced.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (2F0286F3)]._de_compatibility.RunStartupCheck() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 609
[_DE_Main_1_6 (2F015CAE)]._de_epmonitor_1_6.MainLoop() - "_de_epmonitor_1_6.psc" Line 402
[_DE_Main_1_6 (2F015CAE)]._de_epmonitor_1_6.OnUpdate() - "_de_epmonitor_1_6.psc" Line 357
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM] SkyRe Traveller_Rank1 [Perk < (1908DCAA)>]
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM] SkyRe Traveller_Rank2 [Perk < (1908E232)>]
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM] SkyRe Traveller_Rank3 [Perk < (1908E234)>]
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM] SkyRe Traveller_Rank4 [Perk < (1908E235)>]
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM] SkyRe Traveller_Rank5 [Perk < (1908E236)>]
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM] SkyRe Forestry_Rank1 [Perk < (1C002F9F)>]
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM] SkyRe Forestry_Rank2 [Perk < (1C002FA0)>]
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM] SkyRe Forestry_Rank3 [Perk < (1C002FA1)>]
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM] SkyRe GlacialSwimmer [Perk < (1C002FA3)>]
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM] SkyRe Windbreaker [Perk < (1C002FA4)>]
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM] SkyRe WellInsulated [Perk < (1C002FA5)>]
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM] ============================================[Frostfall: Warning Start]============================================
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM]
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM] Frostfall compatibility check complete.
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM]
[04/01/2013 - 12:10:42AM] ============================================[ Frostfall: Warning End ]============================================

 

[ripple]

While the papyrus log can sometimes yield useful information when bug tracking, it's not a 'crash log', so don't read it as such. Post your BOSS log (with the messages), include the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated. Enclose them in spoiler tags like you did with the papyrus log.

[Nocturnstalker]

Ok here is the BOSS log

 

 

 

BOSS

Version 2.1.1

 

 

======================================

Summary

======================================

 

 

Plugin Type Count

Recognised (or sorted by user rules) 88

Unrecognised 8

Inactive 0

All 96

 

 

Plugin Message Type Count

Warning 1

Error 0

All 30

 

 

* Your masterlist is already at the latest revision (r6613; 2013-04-01). No update necessary.

* Note: Latest BOSS thread ("http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1450569-relz-boss-for-skyrim/")

* Note: The BOSS team has been overwhelmed with the popularity of submissions of unrecognised plugins from the BOSS Log and the number of outstanding unique submissions. As of 19 March 2013 we are at over 4970+ plugins to add to the Masterlist dating as far back as 15 September 2012. If you are interested in helping to get these plugins added to BOSS's masterlist, please PM Aellis (Bethesda Softworks Forums ("http://forums.bethsoft.com/user/364024-aellis/") or Nexus Mods ("http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?showuser=65745/")).

* Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.

 

 

======================================

SKSE Plugins

======================================

 

 

 

SKSE Version: 0.1.6.13

 

CFM_extensions.dll

 

CharacterMakingExtender_plugin.dll

 

SKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll Version: 1.15.1.0

 

 

======================================

Recognised Plugins

======================================

 

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

 

Skyrim.esm Active

 

Update.esm Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

* Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

Dawnguard.esm Active

* Contains dirty edits: 607 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

HearthFires.esm Active

* Contains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

Dragonborn.esm Active

* Contains dirty edits: 57 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

ApachiiHair.esm Active

 

RaceCompatibility.esm Active

 

SPIKE.esm Active

 

TERAArmors.esm Active

 

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp Active

 

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active

 

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

 

 

Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active

 

Convenient Horses.esp Active

 

Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp Active

 

Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp Active

 

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active

 

Character Creation Overhaul.esp Active

 

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp Active

 

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp Active

* Note: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for 'bDoDepthOfField'. Make sure it is set to 1.

 

 

WetandCold.esp Active

 

SkyUI.esp Active

 

iHUD.esp Active

 

Cloaks.esp Active

 

1nivWICCloaks.esp Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

 

 

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active

 

DragonbornArmorFix.esp Active

 

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

LustmordVampireArmor.esp Active

 

TERAArmors.esp Active

* Requires: DIMONIZED UNP female body ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/6709")

 

 

Lock Overhaul.esp Active

 

DeadlyDragons.esp Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

DeadlyMonsters.esp Active

 

SkyRe_Main.esp Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}

* Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9286").

* Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'

* Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/13652") mod.

* Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:

* Note: [Actor]

* Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

* Note: [Combat]

* Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

* Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

* Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

* Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

 

 

SkyRe_Combat.esp Active

 

SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp Active

 

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active

 

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active

 

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

 

 

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active

 

SkyRe_Survivalism.esp Active

 

PumpingIron.esp Active

 

AchieveThat.esp Active

 

BetterQuestObjectives.esp Active

 

BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp Active

 

BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp Active

 

BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp Active

 

CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp Active

* Contains dirty edits: 0 ITM, 24 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Active

 

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Active

 

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Active

 

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp Active

 

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp Active

 

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active

 

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active

 

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Active

 

RND_USKP-Patch.esp Active

 

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active

 

Better Vampires.esp Active

 

Predator Vision.esp Active

 

ToL_SKSE_by_Brevi.esp Active

 

WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6.esp Active

* Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6b.esp Active

* Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

dovahkiinrelax.esp Active

 

NoSneakAttackSound.esp Active

 

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Active

 

CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp Active

 

OrientalRace.esp Active

 

CerwidenCompanion.esp Active

 

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active

 

CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp Active

 

CharacterMakingExtender.esp Active

 

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Argonian.esp Active

 

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Breton.esp Active

 

PC Exclusive Animation Path - DarkElf.esp Active

 

PC Exclusive Animation Path - HighElf.esp Active

 

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Imperial.esp Active

 

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Khajiit.esp Active

 

PC Exclusive Animation Path - Nord.esp Active

 

PC Exclusive Animation Path - ORC.esp Active

 

PC Exclusive Animation Path - RedGuard.esp Active

 

PC Exclusive Animation Path - WoodElf.esp Active

 

PC Exclusive Animation Path - 0- Main.esp Active

 

SkyRe_Races.esp Active

 

ReProccer.esp Active

 

ReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp Active

 

 

======================================

Unrecognised Plugins

======================================

 

 

The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.

 

HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp Active

 

SkyRe_HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonbornPatch.esp Active

 

HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp Active

 

ImmersiveBountyHunting.esp Active

 

CuteDesigns.esp Active

 

MageBackpack_byTumbajamba.esp Active

 

ReProccerDragonborn.esp Active

 

Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp Active

 

 

 

Edited April 1, 2013 by Nocturnstalker

[ripple]

1) Cleaning: download TES5Edit from that link, follow the instructions on the page, and clean the plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits.' You'll need to remove identical to master entries as well as undelete/disable deleted references.

 

2) then, disable the plugins not recognized by BOSS and see if you can transition cells without CTDs. If you can, then you know one or more of them are responsible.

[MightyZ0G]

tesvedit is easy to use

when the list of installed mods appears, right click on it and select none then find the file that needs cleaning and double click on it

(that will load the file and any master files it relies on)

when that has loaded the file and masters, right click on the file that needs cleaning and select filter for cleaning

when that has finished you can right clcik on it again and remove the ITMs

the when that has finished you can right click again and remove UDRs

 

then exit and select yes to save file.

 

do this for each file that needs cleaning.

 

when you have done that and BOSS reports that there are no dirty edits, get Wrye Bash.

check the readme files or download pages for all your mods, especially SkyRe and the unrecognised plug ins, and see if they give any specific instructions for the load order.

in Wrye Bash manually sort any mods that need to be moved and put the bashed patch 0 at the bottom of the list then right click on the bashed patch and select rebuild patch and then build patch

 

that should sort out a lot of problems

 

also, why do you have 2 WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6b.esp files active?

Edited April 1, 2013 by mighty zog

[Azakiel]

Ripple & Mighty Zog: I'm going to disagree with something you've both said. When cleaning mods, you shouldn't just clean the ones that BOSS notes as needing cleaning, you should go through and check them all, since BOSS only notes those files that have been reported as dirty, and I've frequently encountered dirty edits that are not typically noted in the BOSS log.

 

Restricting yourself to cleaning just those mods that BOSS lists as dirty can leave lots of other dirty edits. unless the mod description says it has been cleaned with TES5Edit, you should always clean it (and even if a mod is noted as being cleaned in the description, if it is older than the most recent version of TES5Edit, it is worth cleaning them anyway).

Nocturnstalker:

As its been pointed out, you have two different versions of your werewolf mod running, which may be causing problems.

 

It would help if you posted up the full papyrus log, as what you've posted appears to be only a short extract of the log.

 

it is also worth pointing out that just because BOSS doesn't recognise a plugin that doesn't indicate that it is the most likely cause of an issue, it simply means that the mod has not been reported to BOSS. Unless a mod modifies either Worldspace or Cells records (or has scripts that affect them in some way) it is quite unlikely that they are the cause of your errors.

 

Given that you have several mods that are quite script intensive, I would advise against randomly disabling mods until the problem goes away, as orphaned script references (i.e. references to scripts inside the save game that are no longer present because their parent mod has been uninstalled) can cause all kinds of problems.

 

Your first step when encountering any CTD or similar problem should always be to clean all your mods to ensure that a dirty edit is not the cause of the problem.

Edited April 1, 2013 by Azakiel

[ripple]

Ripple & Mighty Zog: I'm going to disagree with something you've both said. When cleaning mods, you should just clean the ones that BOSS notes as needing cleaning,

How is that different than what I said...? Or did you miss the word 'not'?

 

you should go through and check them all, since BOSS only notes those files that have been reported as dirty, and I've frequently encountered dirty edits that are not typically noted in the BOSS log.

Yes, so do many users (who are the ones reporting to the BOSS team about which mods need 'cleaning') when we download those mods. But the majority of users do not know what those records mean and cannot differentiate between a intended and unintended 'duplicate to master entries' (so what's a 'dirty edit' and what's not), nor do they know that 'repeat cleanings' have been known to cause mysterious record deletions (because TES5Edit is still 'experimental', and is just funny that way). When someone is just trying to troubleshoot their load order, especially when they've never used TES5Edit before, asking them to attempt to clean every plugin in their load order is not good advice. In these circumstances, they should stick with information indicated by BOSS, and clean only those plugins flagged as in need of cleaning. Unrecognized plugins can be cleaned only once for good measure, but really, the best way to handle them is to actually check them out in TES5Edit and see exactly what they are editing.

 

So, for people who are not familiar with reading plugin records in TES5Edit, the proper procedure for 'what to do' after finding duplicate to master entries in a mod which the BOSS database has no information on, is actually not to just clean them, but to report them to the mod author first and receive clarification. If the mod author cannot provide a knowledgeable answer, then the plubin should be cleaned and reported to the BOSS team. Deleted references, on the other hand, should always be undeleted and set to disabled.

Edited April 1, 2013 by ripple

[Nocturnstalker]

 

[04/01/2013 - 03:28:50PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[04/01/2013 - 03:28:50PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 2000.000000ms)
[04/01/2013 - 03:28:50PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:01PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1scwispwallscript", missing file?
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:01PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC2BenthicLurkerFXSCRIPT", missing file?
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:02PM] Cannot open store for class "PF__01018802", missing file?
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:02PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__01018802 to (0E018802) because their base types do not match
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:02PM] Cannot open store for class "PF__01022031", missing file?
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:02PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__01022031 to (0E022031) because their base types do not match
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:02PM] Cannot open store for class "chherdingquestscript", missing file?
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:03PM] Cannot open store for class "PRKF_LFoxBloodBottlePerk_010012C7", missing file?
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:03PM] Error: Unable to bind script PRKF_LFoxBloodBottlePerk_010012C7 to (3D0012C7) because their base types do not match
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:06PM] Error: Unable to bind script DLC2WaterScript to (0401AAD8) because their base types do not match
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:14PM] Error: Property FrostfallArmor on script _de_compatibility attached to alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (0E0286F3) cannot be bound because alias DE_Player on quest _DE_Main_1_6 (0E015CAE) is not the right type
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:14PM] warning: Property ATMain on script AT_OnLoadScript attached to alias AliasforPlayer on quest AT_QST113 (2C0058DF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:14PM] Error: Property MGRitual04 on script uskpretroactive131script attached to USKPRetroactive131 (0901906F) cannot be bound because MGRitual04 (000CD987) is not the right type
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:14PM] warning: Property USKPMS04Perk on script QF_MS04_000209CA attached to MS04 (000209CA) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:14PM] warning: Property pTG05KarliahInvisibilitySpell on script QF_TG05_00021551 attached to TG05 (00021551) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:14PM] warning: Property TG05KarliahInvisibilitySpell on script tg06questscript attached to TG06 (00021552) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:16PM] VM is freezing...
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:16PM] VM is frozen
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:16PM] Reverting game...
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:16PM] Error: Unable to bind script PRKF_LFoxBloodBottlePerk_010012C7 to (3D0012C7) because their base types do not match
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:16PM] Error: Unable to bind script DLC2WaterScript to (0401AAD8) because their base types do not match
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:16PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__01022031 to (0E022031) because their base types do not match
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:16PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__01018802 to (0E018802) because their base types do not match
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:17PM] warning: Property ATMain on script AT_OnLoadScript attached to alias AliasforPlayer on quest AT_QST113 (2C0058DF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:17PM] warning: Property USKPMS04Perk on script QF_MS04_000209CA attached to MS04 (000209CA) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:17PM] warning: Property pTG05KarliahInvisibilitySpell on script QF_TG05_00021551 attached to TG05 (00021551) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:17PM] warning: Property TG05KarliahInvisibilitySpell on script tg06questscript attached to TG06 (00021552) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:17PM] Error: Property MGRitual04 on script uskpretroactive131script attached to USKPRetroactive131 (0901906F) cannot be bound because MGRitual04 (000CD987) is not the right type
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:33PM] Loading game...
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:33PM] VM is thawing...
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:33PM] Mujuro: Ceri mod initialization
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:33PM] Mujuro: User save corresponds with Ceri mod version
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:33PM] Mujuro: Checking for interaction mods ===================== IGNORE errors below relating to mods not found ====================
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:33PM] Mujuro: Finished check for interaction mods ================ IGNORE errors above relating to mods not found ====================
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:33PM] Error: File "CCO - Uninstaller.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[alias PlayerAlias on quest _sycMaintenanceQuest (13005EE6)]._sycMaintenanceRefAliasScript.onBeginState() - "_sycMaintenanceRefAliasScript.psc" Line 25
[alias PlayerAlias on quest _sycMaintenanceQuest (13005EE6)]._sycMaintenanceRefAliasScript.GotoState() - "Alias.psc" Line ?
[alias PlayerAlias on quest _sycMaintenanceQuest (13005EE6)]._sycMaintenanceRefAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_sycMaintenanceRefAliasScript.psc" Line 20
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] Error: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
[None]._WetColdBreathFrigid.RegisterForSingleUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?
[None]._WetColdBreathFrigid.OnUpdate() - "_WetColdBreathFrigid.psc" Line ?
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] InitWidgetLoader()
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] ========== Convenient Horses: Scanning for supported plugins...
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] ========== ERRORS RELATED TO MISSING FILES SHOULD BE IGNORED!
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] Error: File "Convenient Horse Herding.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 84
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 111
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] Error: File "XFLMain.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 85
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 111
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] Error: File "HothFollower.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 86
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 111
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] Error: File "CompanionValfar.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 87
[CH (0F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 111
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] ========== Convenient Horses: Scan complete.
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] ========== Auto Unequip Ammo: Scanning for supported plugins...
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] ========== ERRORS RELATED TO MISSING FILES SHOULD BE IGNORED!
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] Error: File "XFLMain.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[AUA (1200C6C2)].AUAQuestScript.GameLoaded() - "AUAQuestScript.psc" Line 40
[AUA (1200C6C2)].AUAQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "AUAQuestScript.psc" Line 73
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] ========== Auto Unequip Ammo: Scan complete.
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] Error: File "MM_BeluaSangunaireRevisited.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
<unknown self>.huntersvisionutilityscript.GetFormlistFromMod() - "HuntersVisionUtilityScript.psc" Line 10
<unknown self>.huntersvisionutilityscript.GetBeluaVampireLordLevitateSpellsList() - "HuntersVisionUtilityScript.psc" Line 19
<unknown self>.huntersvisionutilityscript.AddToBSRSpells() - "HuntersVisionUtilityScript.psc" Line 51
[GophersHuntersVisionQuest (3E000800)].huntersvisionmaintainancescript.Maintenance() - "HuntersVisionMaintainanceScript.psc" Line 42
[alias Player on quest GophersHuntersVisionQuest (3E000800)].HuntersVisionLoadScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "HuntersVisionLoadScript.psc" Line 10
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] Error: File "MM_BeluaSangunaireRevisited.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
<unknown self>.huntersvisionutilityscript.GetFormlistFromMod() - "HuntersVisionUtilityScript.psc" Line 10
<unknown self>.huntersvisionutilityscript.GetBeluaVampireLordWalkingSpellsList() - "HuntersVisionUtilityScript.psc" Line 23
<unknown self>.huntersvisionutilityscript.AddToBSRSpells() - "HuntersVisionUtilityScript.psc" Line 52
[GophersHuntersVisionQuest (3E000800)].huntersvisionmaintainancescript.Maintenance() - "HuntersVisionMaintainanceScript.psc" Line 42
[alias Player on quest GophersHuntersVisionQuest (3E000800)].HuntersVisionLoadScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "HuntersVisionLoadScript.psc" Line 10
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] Error: File "MM_BeluaSangunaireRevisited.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
<unknown self>.huntersvisionutilityscript.GetFormlistFromMod() - "HuntersVisionUtilityScript.psc" Line 10
<unknown self>.huntersvisionutilityscript.GetBeluaVampireLordLevitateSpellsList() - "HuntersVisionUtilityScript.psc" Line 19
<unknown self>.huntersvisionutilityscript.AddToBSRSpells() - "HuntersVisionUtilityScript.psc" Line 51
[GophersHuntersVisionQuest (3E000800)].huntersvisionmaintainancescript.Maintenance() - "HuntersVisionMaintainanceScript.psc" Line 43
[alias Player on quest GophersHuntersVisionQuest (3E000800)].HuntersVisionLoadScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "HuntersVisionLoadScript.psc" Line 10
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] Error: File "MM_BeluaSangunaireRevisited.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
<unknown self>.huntersvisionutilityscript.GetFormlistFromMod() - "HuntersVisionUtilityScript.psc" Line 10
<unknown self>.huntersvisionutilityscript.GetBeluaVampireLordWalkingSpellsList() - "HuntersVisionUtilityScript.psc" Line 23
<unknown self>.huntersvisionutilityscript.AddToBSRSpells() - "HuntersVisionUtilityScript.psc" Line 52
[GophersHuntersVisionQuest (3E000800)].huntersvisionmaintainancescript.Maintenance() - "HuntersVisionMaintainanceScript.psc" Line 43
[alias Player on quest GophersHuntersVisionQuest (3E000800)].HuntersVisionLoadScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "HuntersVisionLoadScript.psc" Line 10
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM]
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] =====Wet and Cold is refreshing itself and searching for addons. Any errors below are harmless.=====
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM]
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] Error: File "1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[_WetQuest (16000D63)]._wetquestscript.Maintenance() - "_WetQuestScript.psc" Line 189
[alias Player on quest _WetQuest (16000D63)]._WetPlayerAlias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_WetPlayerAlias.psc" Line 10
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] Error: File "WetandCold - Ashes.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[_WetQuest (16000D63)]._wetquestscript.Maintenance() - "_WetQuestScript.psc" Line 238
[alias Player on quest _WetQuest (16000D63)]._WetPlayerAlias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_WetPlayerAlias.psc" Line 10
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] Error: File "Wyrmstooth.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[_WetQuest (16000D63)]._wetquestscript.Maintenance() - "_WetQuestScript.psc" Line 253
[alias Player on quest _WetQuest (16000D63)]._WetPlayerAlias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_WetPlayerAlias.psc" Line 10
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:34PM] Error: File "getSnowy.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[_WetQuest (16000D63)]._wetquestscript.Maintenance() - "_WetQuestScript.psc" Line 313
[alias Player on quest _WetQuest (16000D63)]._WetPlayerAlias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_WetPlayerAlias.psc" Line 10
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:35PM]
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:35PM] =====Wet and Cold is finished refreshing itself and searching for addons!=====
[04/01/2013 - 03:29:35PM]

 

 

That is the entire papyrus log that I have for my most recent issue with cell transitions. I went ahead and did as suggested, cleaning up the plugins suggested by BOSS. I have also disabled the mods that were unrecognized but to no avail. Thank you all for your help and I'll keep trying anything I can.

[Azakiel]

ripple, on 01 Apr 2013 - 18:37, said:

 

Azakiel, on 01 Apr 2013 - 12:21, said:

Ripple & Mighty Zog: I'm going to disagree with something you've both said. When cleaning mods, you should just clean the ones that BOSS notes as needing cleaning,

How is that different than what I said...? Or did you miss the word 'not'?

Sorry, typo, should have read shouldn't just clean.

 

 

In my experience there are very few cases where removing ITM records is a bad idea, and that is typically when you are using a mod that will revert a fix made by another mod (such as one mod I've seen recently that reverts the changes USKP makes to the Necromage perk)

Edited April 1, 2013 by Azakiel

[ripple]

Is that the full log? It only contains a minute of activity and doesn't reveal very much. The 'missing...' errors are harmless and merely indicate scripts from CH scanning for supported mods. Try playing for at least 15 minutes, then try and reproduce the CTD.

If your CTD is reproducible, the other method you can try is to disable your plugins in groups (except the DLC esm's and the unofficial patches). Start by dividing them in half, disable the first half, see if you CTD during cell transition. If you do, then disable the second half. If that resolves your issue, then renable half of the second half...and repeat until you narrow down on the plugin that is causing the CTD.

Also, have you edited the game ini files?

 

If you are only encountering this when you try to enter Windhelm and no other cities (try the other cities, just to eliminate some possibilities), then it's probably a mod that make edits to the Windhelm city cells, either edits to the cells themselves, replacement of textures or meshes specific to that city, or even just to add NPCs there.

 

In my experience there are very few cases where removing ITM records is a bad idea, and that is typically when you are using a mod that will revert a fix made by another mod (such as one mod I've seen recently that reverts the changes USKP makes to the Necromage perk)

It's fine if you know what you are doing. I just don't recommend it to new users because then they start cleaning literally everything, including the unofficial patches and mod plugins that have already been cleaned once by the authors.

Edited April 1, 2013 by ripple