RedEnchilada Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Howdy all, recently I've been encountering frequent crashes on start up with my game. Not even the enb info will load. Ive tried a fresh updating f4se, verifying integrity of my files. Below is my load order for any one who is willing to read through it, thankies # Automatically generated by Vortex Fallout4.esm DLCRobot.esm DLCworkshop01.esm DLCCoast.esm DLCworkshop02.esm DLCworkshop03.esm DLCNukaWorld.esm DLCUltraHighResolution.esm Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp FOVSlider.esl AAF.esm Bememoth Separated Cart.esl four_play_resources.esm SREP.esl Quick_Modification_Weapon_by_tooun.esl ExtraRadios.esl TuneTheRadios.esl KillTips_by_tooun.esl IceStormsShoes.esl IceStormsButterflyHeels.esl IceStormsHeavyMetalBoots.esl Petal_Gasmask.esl HUDFramework.esm tooun_Animationpack.esl AAFThemes.esl ArmorKeywords.esm PANPC.esm WorkshopFramework.esm Robot Home Defence.esm SS2.esm TheForest.esm FalloutInstrumentPack.esl BerettaM9FS.esl FFO.esm TrueStormsFO4.esm ammoUI_by_tooun.esl FaceLight.esl OVT.esp DCWestSuperMutants.esp TMS_WrenchMonkey.esp ModularVaultSuit.esp CustomCamera.esp Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp SunLightAlignment.esp DominoLynxOutfit.esp ESPExplorerFO4.esp Kbar-32.esp RadioReverbFix.esp KrissVector.esp AnimatedRadaway.esp ScopeOverlayDOF.esp AAF_GrayAnimations.esp SavageCabbage_Animations.esp BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp UltraInteriorLighting.esp Fallout Loot Overhaul.esp ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.esp Better Locational Damage.esp LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp skeletonfemaleplayerLMCC.esp BetterSettlers.esp BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp Beautiful Female Settlers v. 2.0 - BS Compatible.esp McMillanCS5.esp Dynamic Music Overhaul.esp SKKRESystemManager.esp detailedferalghouls.esp ImmersiveVendors.esp HsProduktVhs2.esp VtawNurse.esp NezzarUltimateCollection.esp PowerArmor_AltMeshes.esp PowerArmor_AltMeshes_AutomatronPatch.esp PowerArmor_AltMeshes_NukaWorldPatch.esp Stimpaks help you breathe.esp Fo4FI_FPS_fix.esp FFO.esp PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp BostonFPSFixAIO.esp Region Names on Save Files.esp MutilatedDeadBodies.esp Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - AiO.esp ENBLightsHDRPatch.esp NiceBush.esp CROSS_RugerMkV.esp NAC.esp NAC-NW.esp Vivid Weathers - Region Names Patch.esp NAC-FH.esp BostonFPSFixAIO - Region Names Patch.esp MWM4.esp Toz194.esp Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp OutcastsAndRemnants.esp Depravity.esp FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp CyberPunk Suit by NewerMind43.esp HiPolyFaces.esp KSHairdos.esp KSHairdos_oel.esp ArmorClothingOverhaul.esp VtawWardrobe7.esp BLD - Leveled Lists - DLC.esp VVV_LoadScreenArt.esp walkers.esp ErectionFix_SilverPerv.esp FO4LaserBolts.esp NEST_BUNKER_PROJECT.esp Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp MikeMooresMCAM.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment.esp CheatTerminal.esp TheSewers.esp Beggar_Whore.esp ProjectValkyrie.esp Ak5C.esp BioshockInspiredPowerArmor.esp LString_Bow.esp F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp WattzLaserGun.esp USP .45_by_tooun.esp P90.esp P90NPC.esp MK18.esp MakeYourOwnSynths.esp Wana_SA58.esp AER15.esp VtawRonin.esp VtawDahlia.esp StG44BFV.esp VtawBunny.esp VtawBecca.esp THPoses.esp VtawClaire2.esp Conejito's MU Accessories.esp AnimatedIngestibles.esp Sun's Poses.esp VtawAcademy.esp VtawScientist.esp FFC_AppealingMoles.esp FFC_KirsFreckles.esp MiscHairstyle.esp TacticalBeanie.esp Mossberg500.esp OakleyMFrame.esp LegendaryModification.esp bTankTop.esp TERANurseUniform.esp BLM.esp Ghouls Revamped.esp Rusty Face Fix.esp dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp BrighterSettlementLights_LongAndSoft.esp Gunner_Operator.esp AC_BunnyNecklace.esp PD_LowerWeapon.esp CWSS Redux.esp Smoke-able Cigars.esp Lacy Underwear.esp UGO_PlayerModule.esp HoloTime.esp SKM_QuieterSettlementMachines.esp NukaRadBans.esp RealHandcuffs.esp RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp CCOCheekyCasualsReplacer.esp Piercings.esp SubmersiblePowerArmorRedux.esp AzarHolsteredWeapons.esp Glock19x.esp KmartRadio.esp LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp RU556.esp PhotoRoom.esp AKMnv.esp AK400.esp VtawWardrobe5.esp VtawWardrobe4.esp Vtawleatherdress.esp COCO-BikiniCollection.esp COCO-LaceBody.esp XM2010_SniperRifle_by_tooun.esp Atomic Lust.esp Dogmeat's Backpack.esp VisibleWeapons.esp AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp AgemoNPCs(E).esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp AgemoNewFace(E)VanillaOufit.esp Fixed Alpha Map.esp AnimChemRedux.esp VtawJumpsuit.esp CourierDuster.esp LongerPowerLines3x.esp Depth of Field Removal.esp TMS_MilitiaDuster.esp CROSS_Cybernetics.esp AkaSinger.esp AkaSingersWardrobe.esp OCDecorator.esp OCDecoratorDLC.esp OCDispenser.esp win1897.esp GR123 West Tek Tactical Gloves.esp VtawWardrobe2.esp WheelMenu.esp WestTekTacticalOptics.esp TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp SettlementLimitSlashed.esp 3dscopes-mosin.esp DavesPoses.esp BossChestsHaveLegendaries.esp 3dscopes-leeenfield.esp 3dscopes-servicerifle.esp The Eyes Of Beauty.esp AzarMoreHairstyles.esp VtawWardrobe1.esp MP7.esp CROSS_BreakActionLaser.esp AtomicRadio.esp HuntingRevolver.esp ODW - RB-13.esp HK_UMP.esp four_play.esp L96A1.esp GIAT_FAMAS.esp ODT - GIAT FAMAS Skin Pack Vol. 1.esp M1A.esp HK_MP5.esp JC-Shirt and Jeans.esp Crimsomrider's 1950s Feminine Outfits.esp Immersive HUD.esp SprintStutterRemover.esp Better Locational Damage - DLC_Far_Harbor.esp Better Perks - Enhanced.esp Better VATS - 0.75.esp Better Locational Damage - DLC_WWorkshop.esp Better Locational Damage - DLC_Automatron.esp Better Locational Damage - DLC_Nuka_World.esp Better Locational Damage - Valdacil's Item Sorting - Patch.esp Weapons of Fate.esp Scavver's Backpacks.esp TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp CROSS_Halo.esp Clean Water - Tropical.esp Grasslands - Healthy.esp NoTwigs.esp Nexus_PMC.esp RealNameSettlers.esp BetterNightVision.esp DarkerNights.esp DarkerNightsDetection.esp PMC_extended.esp AK5CSkinPackAll.esp 3dscopes.esp Westtektacticalgloves.esp SleepIntimate.esp 9x39Project.esp HN66Fo4_EarringsV1.esp SleekStylesPack.esp Survivalist GoBags-Chem Station.esp CompanionStatus.esp CBBE.esp NeuraLOD.esp VtawWardrobe6.esp Enclave_Operator.esp SkEyes.esp ODT - Lee Enfield Skin Pack Vol1.esp Slave&ModelPinup.esp RutahTattooPack_FO4.esp QuickTrade.esp VWR - Explosives.esp TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp Campsite.esp LooksMenu.esp KSHairsFemsheppingRadbeetle.esp FO4HHS_AAF.esp DiaryOfAMadman.esp Armorsmith Extended.esp Mercenary.esp TNR Shoulder Lamp.esp TNR Shoulder Lamp - Settings.esp Crimsomrider's Accessories.esp Far West Minutemen.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidLady Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Now, are you actually crashing to desktop if you leave it untouched - or does it just go blackscreen?Because my game does that, too. And at first I didn't know what was up.Just try waiting for a couple of minutes and see if the title screen doesn't eventually come up, if this is the case. Now, if that's not what's going on, then how many mods exactly do you have installed?The plugin limit is 255, and if you install even 1 more non-ESL mod on top of that, your game won't load. It'll CTD at startup. Next, try installing Buffout 4 - it gives a detailed crash log when you get a CTD and will be very helpful in pointing out which mod is the problem.Here's the link - Post your crash log in the comment section there and in this threadhttps://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/47359 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEnchilada Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 Now, are you actually crashing to desktop if you leave it untouched - or does it just go blackscreen?Because my game does that, too. And at first I didn't know what was up.Just try waiting for a couple of minutes and see if the title screen doesn't eventually come up, if this is the case. Now, if that's not what's going on, then how many mods exactly do you have installed?The plugin limit is 255, and if you install even 1 more non-ESL mod on top of that, your game won't load. It'll CTD at startup. Next, try installing Buffout 4 - it gives a detailed crash log when you get a CTD and will be very helpful in pointing out which mod is the problem.Here's the link - Post your crash log in the comment section there and in this threadhttps://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/47359Thanks for the tips, I found out that i went way over the plugin limit, i made some revisions to the load order to try and fix it, but even at only 235 plugins my game still fails to start.when I start up the game the f4se command prompt loads, and then the game opens, but thats it, all its shows is a black screen until it pops up the "fallout 4 is not responding" windowbelow is my load order # Automatically generated by VortexFallout4.esmDLCRobot.esmDLCworkshop01.esmDLCCoast.esmDLCworkshop02.esmDLCworkshop03.esmDLCNukaWorld.esmDLCUltraHighResolution.esmUnofficial Fallout 4 Patch.espFOVSlider.eslAAF.esmBememoth Separated Cart.eslfour_play_resources.esmSREP.eslExtraRadios.eslTuneTheRadios.eslKillTips_by_tooun.eslIceStormsShoes.eslIceStormsButterflyHeels.eslIceStormsHeavyMetalBoots.eslHUDFramework.esmtooun_Animationpack.eslAAFThemes.eslArmorKeywords.esmPANPC.esmWorkshopFramework.esmRobot Home Defence.esmSS2.esmFalloutInstrumentPack.eslBerettaM9FS.eslFFO.esmTrueStormsFO4.esmammoUI_by_tooun.eslFaceLight.eslQuick_Modification_Weapon_by_tooun.eslOVT.espCROSS_Cybernetics.espUltraInteriorLighting.espFallout Loot Overhaul.espValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.espCustomCamera.espRadioReverbFix.espKrissVector.espAnimatedRadaway.espScopeOverlayDOF.espAAF_GrayAnimations.espSavageCabbage_Animations.espBetterSettlersNoLollygagging.espLots More Female Hairstyles.espLooksMenu Customization Compendium.espskeletonfemaleplayerLMCC.espBetterSettlers.espBetterSettlersCleanFacePack.espBeautiful Female Settlers v. 2.0 - BS Compatible.espMcMillanCS5.espDynamic Music Overhaul.espSKKRESystemManager.espdetailedferalghouls.espImmersiveVendors.espHsProduktVhs2.espVtawNurse.espNezzarUltimateCollection.espPowerArmor_AltMeshes.espPowerArmor_AltMeshes_AutomatronPatch.espPowerArmor_AltMeshes_NukaWorldPatch.espStimpaks help you breathe.espFo4FI_FPS_fix.espFFO.espReverb and Ambiance Overhaul.espTrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.espPiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.espBostonFPSFixAIO.espRegion Names on Save Files.espMutilatedDeadBodies.espEli_Faction Housing Overhaul - AiO.espENBLightsHDRPatch.espNiceBush.espCROSS_RugerMkV.espNAC.espNAC-NW.espVivid Weathers - Region Names Patch.espNAC-FH.espBostonFPSFixAIO - Region Names Patch.espMWM4.espVivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.espOutcastsAndRemnants.espDepravity.espFO4_AnimationsByLeito.espCROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp1CAS_ServiceRifle.espHiPolyFaces.espKSHairdos.espKSHairdos_oel.espArmorClothingOverhaul.espVVV_LoadScreenArt.espNEST_BUNKER_PROJECT.espwalkers.espErectionFix_SilverPerv.espFO4LaserBolts.espMikeMooresMCAM.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espFlashy_CrimeAndPunishment.espCheatTerminal.espTheSewers.espProjectValkyrie.espAk5C.espF4NVServiceRifleRedux.espMK18.espWana_SA58.espAER15.espTHPoses.espSun's Poses.espVtawScientist.espFFC_AppealingMoles.espFFC_KirsFreckles.espMiscHairstyle.espMossberg500.espLegendaryModification.espTERANurseUniform.espGhouls Revamped.espRusty Face Fix.espdD-Enhanced Blood Basic.espBrighterSettlementLights_LongAndSoft.espGunner_Operator.espAC_BunnyNecklace.espPD_LowerWeapon.espCWSS Redux.espSmoke-able Cigars.espUGO_PlayerModule.espHoloTime.espSKM_QuieterSettlementMachines.espNukaRadBans.espRealHandcuffs.espRealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.espPiercings.espSubmersiblePowerArmorRedux.espAzarHolsteredWeapons.espGlock19x.espKmartRadio.espLeeEnfieldNo4MkI.espRU556.espAK400.espVtawWardrobe5.espVtawWardrobe4.espCOCO-BikiniCollection.espXM2010_SniperRifle_by_tooun.espAtomic Lust.espDogmeat's Backpack.espVisibleWeapons.espAzarPonytailHairstyles.espAgemoNPCs(E).espTheEyesOfBeauty.espAgemoNewFace(E)VanillaOufit.espFixed Alpha Map.espAnimChemRedux.espVtawJumpsuit.espCourierDuster.espLongerPowerLines3x.espDepth of Field Removal.espTMS_MilitiaDuster.espAkaSinger.espAkaSingersWardrobe.espOCDecorator.espOCDecoratorDLC.espOCDispenser.espwin1897.espVtawWardrobe2.espWheelMenu.espWestTekTacticalOptics.espSettlementLimitSlashed.esp3dscopes-mosin.espDavesPoses.espBossChestsHaveLegendaries.esp3dscopes-leeenfield.esp3dscopes-servicerifle.espThe Eyes Of Beauty.espAzarMoreHairstyles.espVtawWardrobe1.espMP7.espAtomicRadio.espHuntingRevolver.espfour_play.espL96A1.espGIAT_FAMAS.espM1A.espHK_MP5.espCrimsomrider's 1950s Feminine Outfits.espImmersive HUD.espSprintStutterRemover.espScavver's Backpacks.espTrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.espMore Where That Came From Diamond City.espCROSS_Halo.espClean Water - Tropical.espGrasslands - Healthy.espNoTwigs.espNexus_PMC.espRealNameSettlers.espBetterNightVision.espDarkerNights.espDarkerNightsDetection.espPMC_extended.espAK5CSkinPackAll.esp3dscopes.espSleepIntimate.espHN66Fo4_EarringsV1.espSleekStylesPack.espCompanionStatus.espCBBE.espNeuraLOD.espVtawWardrobe6.espSkEyes.espODT - Lee Enfield Skin Pack Vol1.espRutahTattooPack_FO4.espQuickTrade.espVWR - Explosives.espTrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.espCampsite.espLooksMenu.espKSHairsFemsheppingRadbeetle.espFO4HHS_AAF.espTMS_WrenchMonkey.espModularVaultSuit.espAnimatedIngestibles.espDCWestSuperMutants.espDiaryOfAMadman.espHK_UMP.espSunLightAlignment.espWeapons of Fate.espArmorsmith Extended.espCrimsomrider's Accessories.espMercenary.espTNR Shoulder Lamp.espTNR Shoulder Lamp - Settings.espFar West Minutemen.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espPip-Boy Flashlight.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidLady Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Did you install Buffout 4? You really should, because I can't make heads or tails of your load order as-is.It's a complete mess. I hope you're not using LOOT to organize your load order.LOOT is fine for small load orders, but if you hit 1oo, you have to start organizing it yourself.Your problem might just be a simple load order issue.I'd say try organizing it before installing Buffout4, even. I'll post my load order method, followed by my current load order so you can see it in action. First - the mods that snap to the top of your load order no matter what, can't really organize those.Second - Settlement mods- - - - - Mods that add new settlements- - - - - Followed by mods that alter settlement functionality [more build limit, unlocked dlc buildable objects, etc]- - - - - Followed by mods that add buildable items to the build-mode menu- - - - - Followed by Patches for build mode modsThird - Mods that tweak and alter the game in broad little ways- - - - - Changes to sneak mechanics, Cell respawn timers, Combat damage variables, Faction tweaks, Quicktrade, Player comments, things like that.- - - - - Auto-Looting mods, Mods that make Radstags friendly, Mods like Chill Pill, No Death Weapon Drop, Level Cap, Edits to how Melee combat works- - - - -Fourth - Mods that add NPCs to locations- - - - - Goodneighbor Neighborhood Watch, NPCs Travel, Dr Goodneighbor, Better Goodneighbor and Better Third Rail, etc.Fifth - Quest Mods.- - - - - Start with the bigger quest mods and place smaller quest mods beneath them.- - - - - Combat Zone Restored goes here, too.- - - - - If you have any patches between quest mods, place them where appropriate in this section.Sixth - Settlement Overhaul mods -> Mods that alter the Settlement Framework in any way- - - - - This might seem like an odd location for these types of mods, but go with it.- - - - - Anything that cleans up a settlement, or makes it look entirely different.- - - - - Also if you have any mods which add special, unique NPCs to a base-game, or new settlement goes here.- - - - - Mods that remove invisible markers from settlements- - - - - Mods that add new settlers- - - - - Mods like Conquest or Portable Workshop- - - - - Transfer Settlements goes here- - - - - Mods that make Home Plate (and similar settlements) into Full settlements- - - - - No Random Mercer Safehouse modSeventh - Companion related mods, and any mods that alter or replace NPCs.- - - - - Start with NPC replacers- - - - - Followed by invisible companion tweaks -> Visible Companion Affinity, Dialogue tweaks, Additional Followers- - - - - Followed by mods that alter NPC looks -> New Robot parts, Companion makeovers- - - - - Followed by mods that alter NPCs on a large scale -> Named Settlers, Settler MakeoversEighth - Animations and sounds- - - - - Start with mods that add vehicles which you can ride- - - - - Animated drinking or smoking- - - - - Animated sex mods- - - - - Mods that change how weapons sound- - - - - Mods that alter player's voice or other NPC voices- - - - - Mods that add new animations to walking or all rifles or all pistols or all 1hand melee weapons- - - - - 3rd person movement altering modsNinth - Weather and lighting- - - - - Anything that effects timescale in the game counts- - - - - CLO Custom Lighting Overhaul or other ENBs go here- - - - - Mods that remove shadows for performance- - - - - Nightvision altering mods- - - - - Godray removers or enhancers- - - - - More Grass mods- - - - - Mods that change textures in game, to increase performance or make bricks look better or something.Tenth - Style mods- - - - - Start with anything affecting NPC heights- - - - - Hair and makeup -> New eyes- - - - - CBBE comes next -> Followed by Skin replacers- - - - - Looksmenu comes next -> Followed by Overlays and Customization Compendium- - - - - Pip-pad or other Pipboy altering mods comes nextEleventh - Weapons- - - - - Straightforward. If it adds a new weapon to the game, put it here.- - - - - If the weapon adds new animations, put it at the bottom of this sectionTwelfth - Armor and Clothing- - - - - If it is equip-able to your character from the Armor section, it goes here.- - - - - This doesn't include mods which work like a toggle (like CLO Remote) from the equip section.- - - - - If the armor or clothing has additional, special script effects, put it at the bottom of this section.- - - - - If it's a clothing patch, it goes here. Like something that alters how NPCs dress on a wide scale. [Like Hookers of the Commonwealth patch to make them stop wearing EasyGirl outfits]Thirteenth - Armor and Weapon Framework altering mods- - - - - UCO, Armorsmith Extended, Wacky Weapons Workshop, New Legendary Effects,Fourteenth - Finally, any mods that are finicky. Mods that have trouble working if not placed beneath everything else. Or mods that you want to make SURE work. Mods with heavy, frequently-used scripts.- - - - - Outfit Switcher, FO4Hotkeys, Cheat Terminal, Custom Camera, Console mods, Item Sorting mods, ESP Explorer, Mods that alter how you eat/drink- - - - - Finally, any mods which specifically state to place them beneath everything. Race Customizer is the most popular example.And now the load order - GameMode=Fallout4Fallout4.esm=1DLCRobot.esm=1DLCworkshop01.esm=1DLCCoast.esm=1DLCworkshop02.esm=1DLCworkshop03.esm=1DLCNukaWorld.esm=1ccbgsfo4042-bfg.esl=1cceejfo4001-decorationpack.esl=1ccbgsfo4045-advarccab.esl=1ccfsvfo4003-slocum.esl=1ccsbjfo4001-solarflare.esl=1cckgjfo4001-bastion.esl=1ccrzrfo4002-disintegrate.esl=1ccbgsfo4116-heavyflamer.esl=1ccbgsfo4040-vrworkshop01.esl=1ccfsvfo4005-vrdesertisland.esl=1ccfsvfo4006-vrwasteland.esl=1cctosfo4002_neonflats.esm=1ccbgsfo4117-capmerc.esl=1ccfsvfo4004-vrworkshopgnrplaza.esl=1ccbgsfo4046-tescan.esl=1ccgcafo4025-pagunmm.esl=1ArmorKeywords.esm=1JFP_ArmorKeywords_ChemToGen.esl=1unlockedsettlementobjects.esm=1HUDFramework.esm=1NPCScaling.esm=1cheat room.esm=1Arbitration - Resources.esm=1TrueStormsFO4.esm=1TheSewers.esm=1SomberMountain.esm=1FrozenValley.esm=1CreateFollowers.esm=1CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm=1four_play_resources.esm=1Bandolier.esl=1Blowtorch.esl=1Bridgeway Bank LCTN fix.esl=1SC-SanctuaryCrash-redux.esl=1MoreDisplayableItems.esl=1MTM-CliffsEdgeHotelWallFix.esl=1Goodneighbor - BobbysPlace.esl=1Goodneighbor - Warehouses.esl=1ActivateLongnecks.esl=1Compact - CroupManorBasementWorkshop.esl=1AutoAxe.esl=1Glock86.esl=1MirelurkGauntlet.esl=1ClassicSuperSledge.esl=1TBOS-RaiderNormalFixMale.esl=1TBOSBodyTalk2LooksMenu.esl=1Neon Flats Shortcut - Hacked.esl=1EasyCitySettlement.esl=1B85NeonUnlock.esl=1FalloutInstrumentPack.esl=1RadiationProtectorESL.esl=1Warren Theater Settlement.esl=0EndlessSettlement.esl=1CanarySaveFileMonitor.esl=1Chiisana_Amai_Koi_by_tooun.esl=1LollipopWeapon.esl=1NPSShopping.esl=1RunningDrainsAP.esl=1FastFillingBottles.esl=1FOVSlider.esl=1PhoropterUsable.esl=1Wasteland Illumination DLC.esl=1Vault 81 - Named Residents.esl=1nuka_world_settlements.esp=1CreateFollowersDLCAddon.esp=1BostonFPSFixAIO.esp=1AutoDoors.esp=1SnapBeds.esp=1SwitchboxGenerator 10.esp=1SettleObjExpandPack.esp=1BorderJunk.esp=1TD_DLC01Workshop_Addons.esp=1OCDecorator.esp=1OCDecoratorDLC.esp=1OCDispenser.esp=1Iron_FusionCoreCombiner.esp=1vault_door_fixed.esp=1Food&WaterCrate.esp=1DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp=1AkaInvisibleFurniture.esp=1woodysWastelandStuff.esp=1WDP-PC.esp=1Housekeeping.esp=1Crimsomrider's Unique Furniture.esp=1Snappy_HouseK.esp=1Snappy_DLC03.esp=1Snappy_DecoKit.esp=1Snappy_HouseKit_AutoDoors.esp=1Northland Diggers New.esp=1KURO.esp=1TheMobileMechanic.esp=1RBHancockMayoralPortrait.esp=1InstaBell.esp=1NWM_VVITCH_HAUS.esp=1unlockedsettlementobjectssp.esp=1SettlementMenuManager.esp=1WorkshopRearranged.esp=1HZS NavMesh Fixer.esp=1CompactCrafting.esp=1JustDebris.esp=1Visible Idle Markers.esp=1Vendor.esp=1SettleObjExpandPack-AutoDoorsPatch.esp=1Snappy DLC kits-AutodoorsPatch.esp=1Snappy_HouseK-AutodoorsPatch.esp=1WorkshopRearranged_AutoDoors_Patch.esp=1WorkshopRearranged_CompactCrafting_Patch.esp=1WorkshopRearranged_Instabell_Patch.esp=1WorkshopRearranged_JustDebris_Patch.esp=1WorkshopRearranged_ArcadeCabinets_Patch.esp=1WorkshopRearranged_SlocumsJoe_Patch.esp=1WorkshopRearranged_DecorationsPack_Patch.esp=1HZS NavMesh Fixer SMM.esp=1unlockedsettlementobjects_menuoverride.esp=1Clipboard.esp=1uso_boost_patch.esp=1Vinfamy_CP.esp=1Alex's Faster Respawning Cells.esp=1BrawlerMelee.esp=1combatworkbenchrobot.esp=1ClassicRadPoisoning.esp=1AshGooPilesAwayV1.5.esp=1AdrenalineDisabled.esp=1Lootman.esp=1PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp=1More Active AI.esp=1LevelCap.esp=1QuickConsume.esp=1QuickTrade.esp=1PlayerComments.esp=1PlayerComments_3DNPC_FO4_Patch.esp=1PlayerComments_PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul_Patch.esp=1StoreAllJunk_SeasonPassEdition.esp=1Carry Weight - Thorforce.esp=1ChillPill.esp=1FriendlyRadstags.esp=1Conquestors Cannibal overhaul.esp=1RadcureCannibal.esp=1zGorski.esp=1DrGoodneighbor.esp=1NeighborWatch.esp=1FO4 NPCs Travel.esp=1AtomicRadio.esp=1WorkshopRearranged_AtomicRadio_Patch.esp=1A Forest.esp=1CombatZoneRestored.esp=1PlayerComments_CZRPatch.esp=1FS_NukaTownUSARestored.esp=1trainbar.esp=1nvvault1080.esp=13DNPC_FO4.esp=13DNPC_FO4_DLC.esp=1Vault4.esp=1OutcastsAndRemnants.esp=1sectorv.esp=1AA FusionCityRising.esp=1AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp=1AGNISNikaCola01.esp=1Depravity.esp=1VMod-Master.esp=0FarHarborStory.esp=1MaxwellsWorl.esp=1The Metro.esp=1AR_DLC01.esp=1BoSStory.esp=1cat_wildlands.esp=1RM_Mannequin_Raiders.esp=1ProjectValkyrie.esp=1TeleportThuggyverseCompanions.esp=1Firelance2.5.esp=0Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment_OAR_Depravity_Patch.esp=0V81_GOATSequencePatch.esp=1Covscript.esp=1PH_BrightBluff.esp=1AbernathyFarmOverhaul v1.0.esp=1SettlementDaltonFarm.esp=1SettlementHawthorneEstate.esp=1MarlboroughMansionPlayerHome.esp=1Murkwater.esp=1coastal-cottage-clean-01.esp=1FyTy - RaiderCommunications.esp=1Remove-Slog-Hoe.esp=1Remove-Slog-BerryGathering.esp=1Amelia and Dan at Bunker Hill.esp=13DNPC_FO4Settler.esp=1Portable_Workshop_Enhanced.esp=1TransferSettlements.esp=1NoRandomMercer.esp=1neonflatsfullsettlement.esp=1SOTS.esp=1SKKActorReplaceRespawnManager.esp=1SKKFastBOS.esp=1SKKFastStart.esp=1SKKRESystemManager.esp=1SKKUnlockCompanions.esp=1SKKQuickPlayerRespec.esp=1RustDevilRedux.esp=1PainTrain_NoPA_NoStaggerChanges.esp=1True Legendary Enemies.esp=1Penske Fertilizer Fix.esp=1Brawl Bug Fix.esp=1Tom Sprint.esp=1bugfix_maglocks_terminal_delay.esp=1SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp=1VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp=1FollowersExtended.esp=1Follower Revive System.esp=1CompanionHealThyself.esp=1CompanionWhistle.esp=1RBMonogamy.esp=1RBCaitTalk.esp=1ModdableRobotSettlers.esp=1MsAutomatronPartsCollection.esp=1GhoulPiper.esp=1MacDreamy v0.3.esp=1Settler_named_Clem.esp=1Third Person Movement Speed Fix.esp=1Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp=1Driveable Motorcycle Mod.esp=1ThrowableContainer_v3.esp=1PortableContainer.esp=1PortableWorkbench.esp=1RidingGiddyupButtercup.esp=1Animated Drinking.esp=1AnimChemRedux.esp=1FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp=1four_play.esp=14PlaySEU.esp=1FP_FamilyPlanning.esp=1FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp=1Swinging Meat Bags.esp=1FaceLight.esp=1Glowing Animals Emit Light.esp=1CLO - Custom Lighting Overlay.esp=1LightsDontCastShadows.esp=1FyTy - No Godrays.esp=1Vault-Tec Workshop Overhaul.esp=1Insignificant Object Remover.esp=1GoodneighborExpanded.esp=1Rsiyo'sLocationPack.esp=1highwaysfix.esp=1CliffsEdgeHotelWindowFix.esp=1BetterDrumlinDiner.esp=1DocDrumlin.esp=1ShutUpAndHealMeDoc.esp=1Eli_FahabaShack.esp=1NoTrain.esp=1Fixed Alpha Map.esp=1TrashcanFix.esp=1RADS.esp=1CartographersMapMarkers Commonwealth.esp=1CartographersMapMarkers FarHarbor.esp=1CartographersMapMarkers NukaWorld.esp=1IBS.esp=0Jump Grunt.esp=0TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp=1TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp=1TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp=1TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp=1Actor Scale Remover.esp=0Motoko Hair.esp=1KSHairdosExtra.esp=1KSHairdos.esp=1MiscHairstyle.esp=1AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1GR002-UnladylikeWithFuzz.esp=1ZellaHairDye.esp=0EyesoftheUniverse.esp=1Playable Synth Eyes.esp=1Ghoul Eyes.esp=1ImprovedSkin.esp=1RB_basicskins.esp=1512StandaloneHairColors.esp=1CBBE.esp=1LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp=1LooksMenu.esp=1OverlaySample.esp=1LMBTOverlays.esp=1LMNSOverlays.esp=1Synthoverlay.esp=1DMGhoulish.esp=0Rusty Face Fix.esp=1PIP-Pad.esp=1PIP-Pad_LMCC.esp=1ArmLaserGun.esp=1HydrantBat.esp=1Skibs-WHMk22Redux.esp=1Glock86.esp=0T6MGatPistol.esp=1PH_HighwayProject_Encounters.esp=0pirateset.esp=1Moddable Plasma Caster.esp=1NPCInventoryManipulator.esp=1BryarPistol.esp=1Tau.esp=1Magos.esp=1SigSauer127.esp=1lasercannon.esp=1PortableMinutemenArtillery.esp=1MTM-CompWeapons.esp=1The Egg Launcher 2.0 - Season Pass.esp=1MikeMooresMCAM.esp=1Raiju.esp=1FISTICHUCKS!.esp=1GS Vorpal Blade Returns.esp=1HobbyHorse.esp=1YogMadCan.esp=1XIVFBlade.esp=1CROSS_Blades.esp=1Institute Sword.esp=1Seiryuu Beam Katana.esp=1Chainsaw.esp=1PlasmaMinigun.esp=1Kungfumaster.esp=1FalloutSamurai.esp=1MirelurkGrenadesScuttlebuttO1.esp=1Impact Grenades.esp=1MolotovFear.esp=1Schlong.esp=1HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp=1HN66Fo4_Nails.esp=1FemsheppingsWastelandDrifterMaleOutfits.esp=1HotC_ClothesPatch.esp=1Grim_Bowsette.esp=1Grim_BowsetteBodysuit.esp=1FrenchMaidFO4-CBBEPhysics.esp=1Grim_MegamilkMk2.esp=1GreaseRatGarbs.esp=1AsharaFO4Steampunk.esp=1AsharaFO4Cyborg.esp=1NezzarLingerieCollection.esp=1GITS_suit_by_OniNigma.esp=1Witch3Pack-CBBEPhysics.esp=1BelthanClothes.esp=1Headcrab_Bunny.esp=1K-Girl outfits.esp=1DX_Rogue_Prototype.esp=1Cyberpunk 2077 Moxes.esp=1WastelandFashionBandanasBlindfolds.esp=1CROSS_Uni_Headset.esp=1CROSS_Jetpack.esp=1CROSS_eyepatch.esp=1Tone Restraint.esp=1TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp=1Auto Stimpak Injector50.esp=1RadRing.esp=1Piezonucleic_Fix.esp=1Mutations.esp=1The Smooth Criminal.esp=1SleepWaitConsumable.esp=1HardcoreMoleratDisease.esp=1SP4 MOVE SPEED IN WATER REDUCED.esp=1ASA.esp=1Vault Alt Suit.esp=1TWB Outfits.esp=1TTOutfit.esp=1Eli_AlecusRogueHD.esp=1TERASuccubusMashup.esp=1Tina's Candy Land.esp=1Absolutely_Headwear.esp=1Pastel Wigs.esp=1LucidLadyClothes1.esp=1Skimpy Attire For Male.esp=1Armorsmith Extended.esp=1RaijuAWKCR.esp=1clothingoverhaul.esp=1ClothingOverhaulSP_XB1_PC.esp=1Evil Detective Outfit.esp=1Toxic Raider Armour.esp=1Crimsomrider's Accessories.esp=1Crimsomrider's Catwoman.esp=1wackyweaponsworkshopsp.esp=1GKX Truly Legendary.esp=1SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp=1PseudoLengendaryTech.esp=1CraftingFramework.esp=1HeavySelectShotgun_Lite.esp=1CraftingFrameworkExtreme.esp=1CraftingFrameworkAWKCR2.esp=1UCO_LegendaryPatch.esp=1JTC.esp=1msf.esp=0Stashable Caps.esp=1CapsWidget.esp=1OutfitSwitcher.esp=1CheatTerminal.esp=1CustomizableNeeds.esp=1Hunter of the Commonwealth.esp=1Hunter of the CommonwealthOG.esp=0Corpse Collision.esp=1Jack's Disable Quick Loot.esp=1MedKit.esp=1Kor_SitDisabler.esp=1Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - V81.esp=1CustomCamera.esp=1WmkActiveEffects.esp=1FO4Hotkeys.esp=1Buy Building Materials Anywhere.esp=1PlayerVoiceFrequencySlider.esp=1ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp=1WheelMenu.esp=1OverwriteAudreyLLAmmoAny.esp=1PersonalSleepingBag.esp=1CN Only - VIS Patch.esp=0SM_VaultSuit.esp=0LucidLadyCementShoes.esp=0LucidConfectionz 1a.esp=1LucidBuildingEdits o1.esp=1LucidEditz o5b.esp=1ESPExplorerFO4.esp=1HighlightConsoleReference.esp=1SkeletonStyleFramework.esp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEnchilada Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 Now, are you actually crashing to desktop if you leave it untouched - or does it just go blackscreen?Because my game does that, too. And at first I didn't know what was up.Just try waiting for a couple of minutes and see if the title screen doesn't eventually come up, if this is the case. Now, if that's not what's going on, then how many mods exactly do you have installed?The plugin limit is 255, and if you install even 1 more non-ESL mod on top of that, your game won't load. It'll CTD at startup. Next, try installing Buffout 4 - it gives a detailed crash log when you get a CTD and will be very helpful in pointing out which mod is the problem.Here's the link - Post your crash log in the comment section there and in this threadhttps://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/47359Thanks for the tips, I found out that i went way over the plugin limit, i made some revisions to the load order to try and fix it, but even at only 235 plugins my game still fails to start.when I start up the game the f4se command prompt loads, and then the game opens, but thats it, all its shows is a black screen until it pops up the "fallout 4 is not responding" windowbelow is my load order # Automatically generated by VortexFallout4.esmDLCRobot.esmDLCworkshop01.esmDLCCoast.esmDLCworkshop02.esmDLCworkshop03.esmDLCNukaWorld.esmDLCUltraHighResolution.esmUnofficial Fallout 4 Patch.espFOVSlider.eslAAF.esmBememoth Separated Cart.eslfour_play_resources.esmSREP.eslExtraRadios.eslTuneTheRadios.eslKillTips_by_tooun.eslIceStormsShoes.eslIceStormsButterflyHeels.eslIceStormsHeavyMetalBoots.eslHUDFramework.esmtooun_Animationpack.eslAAFThemes.eslArmorKeywords.esmPANPC.esmWorkshopFramework.esmRobot Home Defence.esmSS2.esmFalloutInstrumentPack.eslBerettaM9FS.eslFFO.esmTrueStormsFO4.esmammoUI_by_tooun.eslFaceLight.eslQuick_Modification_Weapon_by_tooun.eslOVT.espCROSS_Cybernetics.espUltraInteriorLighting.espFallout Loot Overhaul.espValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.espCustomCamera.espRadioReverbFix.espKrissVector.espAnimatedRadaway.espScopeOverlayDOF.espAAF_GrayAnimations.espSavageCabbage_Animations.espBetterSettlersNoLollygagging.espLots More Female Hairstyles.espLooksMenu Customization Compendium.espskeletonfemaleplayerLMCC.espBetterSettlers.espBetterSettlersCleanFacePack.espBeautiful Female Settlers v. 2.0 - BS Compatible.espMcMillanCS5.espDynamic Music Overhaul.espSKKRESystemManager.espdetailedferalghouls.espImmersiveVendors.espHsProduktVhs2.espVtawNurse.espNezzarUltimateCollection.espPowerArmor_AltMeshes.espPowerArmor_AltMeshes_AutomatronPatch.espPowerArmor_AltMeshes_NukaWorldPatch.espStimpaks help you breathe.espFo4FI_FPS_fix.espFFO.espReverb and Ambiance Overhaul.espTrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.espPiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.espBostonFPSFixAIO.espRegion Names on Save Files.espMutilatedDeadBodies.espEli_Faction Housing Overhaul - AiO.espENBLightsHDRPatch.espNiceBush.espCROSS_RugerMkV.espNAC.espNAC-NW.espVivid Weathers - Region Names Patch.espNAC-FH.espBostonFPSFixAIO - Region Names Patch.espMWM4.espVivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.espOutcastsAndRemnants.espDepravity.espFO4_AnimationsByLeito.espCROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp1CAS_ServiceRifle.espHiPolyFaces.espKSHairdos.espKSHairdos_oel.espArmorClothingOverhaul.espVVV_LoadScreenArt.espNEST_BUNKER_PROJECT.espwalkers.espErectionFix_SilverPerv.espFO4LaserBolts.espMikeMooresMCAM.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espFlashy_CrimeAndPunishment.espCheatTerminal.espTheSewers.espProjectValkyrie.espAk5C.espF4NVServiceRifleRedux.espMK18.espWana_SA58.espAER15.espTHPoses.espSun's Poses.espVtawScientist.espFFC_AppealingMoles.espFFC_KirsFreckles.espMiscHairstyle.espMossberg500.espLegendaryModification.espTERANurseUniform.espGhouls Revamped.espRusty Face Fix.espdD-Enhanced Blood Basic.espBrighterSettlementLights_LongAndSoft.espGunner_Operator.espAC_BunnyNecklace.espPD_LowerWeapon.espCWSS Redux.espSmoke-able Cigars.espUGO_PlayerModule.espHoloTime.espSKM_QuieterSettlementMachines.espNukaRadBans.espRealHandcuffs.espRealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.espPiercings.espSubmersiblePowerArmorRedux.espAzarHolsteredWeapons.espGlock19x.espKmartRadio.espLeeEnfieldNo4MkI.espRU556.espAK400.espVtawWardrobe5.espVtawWardrobe4.espCOCO-BikiniCollection.espXM2010_SniperRifle_by_tooun.espAtomic Lust.espDogmeat's Backpack.espVisibleWeapons.espAzarPonytailHairstyles.espAgemoNPCs(E).espTheEyesOfBeauty.espAgemoNewFace(E)VanillaOufit.espFixed Alpha Map.espAnimChemRedux.espVtawJumpsuit.espCourierDuster.espLongerPowerLines3x.espDepth of Field Removal.espTMS_MilitiaDuster.espAkaSinger.espAkaSingersWardrobe.espOCDecorator.espOCDecoratorDLC.espOCDispenser.espwin1897.espVtawWardrobe2.espWheelMenu.espWestTekTacticalOptics.espSettlementLimitSlashed.esp3dscopes-mosin.espDavesPoses.espBossChestsHaveLegendaries.esp3dscopes-leeenfield.esp3dscopes-servicerifle.espThe Eyes Of Beauty.espAzarMoreHairstyles.espVtawWardrobe1.espMP7.espAtomicRadio.espHuntingRevolver.espfour_play.espL96A1.espGIAT_FAMAS.espM1A.espHK_MP5.espCrimsomrider's 1950s Feminine Outfits.espImmersive HUD.espSprintStutterRemover.espScavver's Backpacks.espTrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.espMore Where That Came From Diamond City.espCROSS_Halo.espClean Water - Tropical.espGrasslands - Healthy.espNoTwigs.espNexus_PMC.espRealNameSettlers.espBetterNightVision.espDarkerNights.espDarkerNightsDetection.espPMC_extended.espAK5CSkinPackAll.esp3dscopes.espSleepIntimate.espHN66Fo4_EarringsV1.espSleekStylesPack.espCompanionStatus.espCBBE.espNeuraLOD.espVtawWardrobe6.espSkEyes.espODT - Lee Enfield Skin Pack Vol1.espRutahTattooPack_FO4.espQuickTrade.espVWR - Explosives.espTrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.espCampsite.espLooksMenu.espKSHairsFemsheppingRadbeetle.espFO4HHS_AAF.espTMS_WrenchMonkey.espModularVaultSuit.espAnimatedIngestibles.espDCWestSuperMutants.espDiaryOfAMadman.espHK_UMP.espSunLightAlignment.espWeapons of Fate.espArmorsmith Extended.espCrimsomrider's Accessories.espMercenary.espTNR Shoulder Lamp.espTNR Shoulder Lamp - Settings.espFar West Minutemen.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espPip-Boy Flashlight.esp i've been meaning to move to mod organizer for a while, since i heard that its better for users with a longer load order. Is it possible to transfer the mods from vortex to mod organizer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraquar Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Never understood why people add so many mods to their games.I've rarely if ever exceeded 50. In this game all your really need is a) Weapons of choice, b) Armor of choice, c) bug fix mods, and d) crafting related mods. Everything after that should be a very small number (10-20 tops). Moar doesn't mean better - Better means better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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