Hit a wall with load order

[Crenge]

Hi,

 

Could anyone please, please do one of the below:

 

1) provide an idiot-proof example list for the most common mods

 

2) provide an actual working BOSS download link with idiot-proof instructions how to use it

 

3) provide any and all hints regarding the above for NMM or Wrye Bash

 

4) What is TES4Edit, where can I get it and how do I use it?

 

I already installed the mods with NMM and that's pretty much all, Wrye Bash gave me a report (with the mod checker) that a few mods need leaning with TES4Edit, a few should be merged (?) and that 2 or 3 have missing or corrupted masters. At the moment I have nothign that coudl help me with the mod order.

 

And please, whatever you do, don't post link to "guides" or official "how to's", or the favourite "The answer is already on the forum". I spent the last 2 days on the internet looking for these things, and even if I already found them and you will link them again to show I'm just wasting everybody's time, I didn't understand how to use them. I'm no programmer / IT guy / Computer specialist. I just found a few mods, would like to use them in my game, that's all.

 

Thanks in advance.

[ripple]

Hi,

 

Could anyone please, please do one of the below:

 

1) provide an idiot-proof example list for the most common mods

 

2) provide an actual working BOSS download link with idiot-proof instructions how to use it

 

3) provide any and all hints regarding the above for NMM or Wrye Bash

 

4) What is TES4Edit, where can I get it and how do I use it?

1) Search for BOSS on the Nexus downloads. When you find the page, there will be no direct download link. Click on 'mirrior' and it will take you to the BOSS Google page where you can download the latest version of BOSS.

 

2) Install and run BOSS per instruction (post back if you get stuck or need clarification).

 

3) Read the BOSS log and see if any plugins require your attention. For example, you will likely see messages telling you that some plugins contain 'dirty edits' and need to be cleaned using TES5Edit, which leads to your question 4)....

 

4) Download TES5Edit from the link indicated in your BOSS log. On that page, there are also instructions on how to clean plugins with 'dirty edits', including a video tutorial by Gopher. Remember you will need to remove identical to master entries as well as undelete/disable deleted references (this one is more important CTD-prevention wise). For now, clean only the plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits.'

 

5) After you have done all of that, run BOSS again, and copy/paste the new BOSS log here (with the messages about bash tags, etc.), including the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated. Enclose them in spoiler tags so they don't clutter the screen, and we'll take a look and let you know if anything else needs to be done.

 

 

[Crenge]

<p>Awesome, thank you, getting right on it.</p> Edited April 9, 2013 by Crenge

[Crenge]

Ok I'm cleaning the mods now, but there is one thign I'm concerned about:

while cleaning both dawnguard.esm and dragonborn.esm, after I click the "apply filter for cleaning", the background of skyrim.esm, update.esm and the respective dlc's .esm turns pink and the font turns: skyrim - purple, update - red, dlc - orange'ish. Also, when I did it for Dragonborn I got this:

<Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [58] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [11] GRUP World Children of CWTestHold "Avoidance Exterior" [WRLD:0001B44A] \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Block 0, 0 \ [0] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block 0, 0 \ [18] TestCWHoldStart [CELL:0001B513] (in CWTestHold "Avoidance Exterior" [WRLD:0001B44A] at 0,0) \ [3] DATA - Flags>
<Warning: Unused data in:  \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [58] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [11] GRUP World Children of CWTestHold "Avoidance Exterior" [WRLD:0001B44A] \ [0] [CELL:0001B4C6] (in CWTestHold "Avoidance Exterior" [WRLD:0001B44A] at 0,0) \ [2] DATA - Flags>

Not sure what it means, but I'm moving on with the cleaning.

Edited April 9, 2013 by Crenge

[Crenge]

<spoiler> These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.
Skyrim.esm Active
Update.esm Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Dawnguard.esm Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
HearthFires.esm Active
Dragonborn.esm Active
SPIKE.esm Active
TravellersOfSkyrim.esm Active
WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm Active
HighResTexturePack01.esp Active
HighResTexturePack02.esp Active
HighResTexturePack03.esp Active
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp Active
Economics of Skyrim.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Economics of Skyrim - Dawnguard.esp Active
Birdsofskyrim.esp Active
DFB - Random Encounters.esp Active
DungeonQuestAwareness.esp Active
High Level Enemies.esp Active
High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp Active
High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp Active
Immersive Battles.esp Active
Immersive Brigands.esp Active
Immersive Dawnguard.esp Active
Immersive Factions.esp Active
Immersive Mercenaries.esp Active
Immersive Patrols.esp Active
Immersive Travelers.esp Active
Immersive Werewolves.esp Active
More Craftables.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
PerkPointPotion.esp Active
TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp Active
Character Creation Overhaul.esp Active
SkyUI.esp Active
Craftable Staffs.esp Active
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
MysticGloves.esp Active
Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp Active
Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp Active
DeadlyDragons.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
DeadlyMonsters.esp Active
BreezehomeEnchanter.esp Active
gonkishvampdens.esp Active
Immersive Events.esp Active
Undercity.esp Active
WheezesDungeonPack1.esp Active
whiterunMarket.esp Active
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Reduced Weight).esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Half Weight).esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp Active
CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp Active
DynamicMerchants.esp Active
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active
Immersive Weapons.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
RichMerchants_Less.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
Spells Cast Light.esp Active
Expanded Villages2.0.esp ActiveWarning: This file contains 3 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.

Unique Region Names.esp Active
Populated Cities 2.esp Active
TRO_BasicNeeds.esp Active
HarvestOverhaulCreatures_IMCN_Compatibility_Patch.esp Active
ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp Active
Balanced_Magic.esp Active
Balanced_Magic_Dawnguard.esp Active
Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp Active
Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest renamed version, Phenderix's Magic Evolved - Cleaned
Note: Reported about some versions of this plugin cause frequent crashes. Use with caution and update to latest version. If You don't see frequent crashes in your game then ignore this message.
Phenderix's Magic Evolved - No Perks.esp Active
Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest renamed version, Phenderix's Magic Evolved - Cleaned
Note: Reported about some versions of this plugin cause frequent crashes. Use with caution and update to latest version. If You don't see frequent crashes in your game then ignore this message.
AlchemyOrganization.esp Active
Eld-combinePotions.esp Active
DragonCombatOverhaul.esp Active
DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp Active
DragonCombatOverhaulDragonBornPatch.esp Active
CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp Active
N_43 Hair Pack.esp Active
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Active
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active
Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active
UFO - AllwaysDrawWeapons.esp Active
TravellersOfSkyrim - UFO Compatibility Patch.esp Active
My Home Is Your Home.esp Active
Amanda.esp Active
Lyla.esp Active
Michelle.esp Active
Misha.esp Active
FollowerWander2.esp Active
Note: UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp has the same functional, but you can use FollowerWander2.esp on your choice.
Spousetocustomhome.esp Active
FollowerWander2Serana.esp Active
CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp Active
WATER.esp Active
WATER Plants.esp Active
WATER DB Waves.esp Active
TRO_BasicNeeds_WATERPatch.esp Active
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp Active </spoiler>

 

And the unrecognizes:

 

SkyrimMoreSpawns.esp Active
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Cities - Falkreath.esp Active
HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp Active
SkyRe_HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonbornPatch.esp
HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp Active

[Crenge]

<p>Did the spoiler thing work? I see the normal text on my screen...</p>

<p> </p>

<p>Edit: One more question: I noticed that the mods used to change cities like Sexy Riften and so on, do not appear on the list. Is it normal for these mods or not? Because The Undercity mod (creating a new city) appears properly, so does to some extent the Falkareth mod (unrecognized).</p>

 

Edit 2: why do these <p> things appear after edits and how can I get rid of them? They might have appeared in my previous posts and they make them really untidy to read.

Edited April 10, 2013 by Crenge

[ripple]

I thought Headbomb updated his sorting mod? Have you checked the mod page to see if there is an updated version that does not give you those 'this was make with a pre-CK tool' errors? If I am incorrect and he has not updated the sorting mod, then you should uninstall them. Error records will cause CTD.

 

'Sexy Rift': I believe that's a texture replacer, so it doesn't come with a plugin because the textures are loose files and will 'override' default game textures bundled in the BSA which they are intended to 'replace.' Some texture/mesh replacers do not come with esp's or esm's because the resources are kept in loose files and are intended to replace default game resources.

 

The forums 'upgraded' recently and the formatting gets trashed sometimes when you try to update your posts. I believe Dark0ne is working on it, hopefully it'll get fixed soon.

Edited April 10, 2013 by ripple

[Crenge]

Thanks for the answers, much appreciated.

 

Yes, he did update them, I even followed the link from BOSS to download the newest, clean version and I installed it, but I got exactly the same message. I'm going to try again though.

 

Means I'm left with those Bash Tag Suggestions. I tried to look it up, as far as I understand I should put them all in a Merged Patch? Wrye Bash had an option to do that I think but I'm not sure about the details.

 

[ripple]

If you have both BOSS and Wrye Bash installed, the first time you run BOSS the plugins in your load order will be tagged accordingly. So the bash tag suggestions listed in BOSS do not require any user intervention other than to verify that those plugins have indeed been tagged accordingly (by checking out their tags, if any, in Wrye Bash).

 

Aren't you already using a Bashed Patch? Do you make sure to rebuild it every time you adjust your load order (e.g. after running BOSS)?

[Crenge]

Sorry, been a way for a bit, everything with the technical side of the mods is working perfectly, thank you very much for all the help. Now I'm weeding out the in-game problems the mods might be causing (had 2 bandits spawn into almost 20 in one of the hideouts, one with Kematu) and since the changes I made both in ASIS and SkyrimMoreSpawns didn't seem to work I just kicked out ASIS, deleted all my save games and I'm going to start fresh. Hope this works.