Skyrim SE Crashing before logo.

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Hello. So My SSE started having intermittent crashing (hanging on black screen with ENB info top left, and thats it. Just before the render window usually opens up full screen, it hangs and then I get a stopped working message form Win 7. My game has not changed, and in the past I would delete the plugins.txt from the appdata/local folder, and then the game would run after enabling all plugins via Vortex. Sometimes I'd have to do it twice, or delete the loadorder.txt too, but it would work with a few tries. However, today I can't get the game to start at all. Deleting these .txt files didnt work, with many tries. I can't be sure if this is the issue, or it's something else contributing, but it only started happening about 4 days ago.

 

I have been updating some mods, and utilities recently. My game is heavily modded, but I'm fairly adept at modding and don't think this is a mod issue. I run SKSE64, .dll loader, ENB, loadaccel.dll (makes MCM run faster). I have NetFramework also, and fpsfix.dll, SSEdisplay tweaks, but those are all /data and their logs confirm they load successfully, and this crash is pre /data, no menu or loading wheel on main menu for this crash. I also have windowed/fullscreen enabled, and the crash happens right as the windowed screen should expand to full.

 

I also notice that Vortex has issue with loading the plugins data in also sometimes, as it will just hang trying to load in the files. To me this seems a very early crash on launch. I even checked to see if there's a second Skyrim.esm in the plugins.text, but vortex excludes those masters from the lists. Help appreciated.

 

EDIT: Also my car has stopped running, and crashes on startup. Lovley, I'm sure they're related. :sad:

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loadorder.txt

 

# Automatically generated by Vortex
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
3DNPC.esp
AMatterOfTime.esl
BSAssets.esm
NoRoadPredatorsRedone.esl
RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
BSHeartland.esm
DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp
BS_DLC_patch.esp
Campfire.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
Falskaar.esm
Gray Fox Cowl.esm
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
CraftableCompass.esl
Ecotone Dual Sheath.esl
FISS.esp
LockMaster.esl
ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esl
SleepTight.esl
Wyrmstooth.esp
TravellersOfSkyrim.esm
DynDOLOD.esm
LSFX-SSE-Audiosettings.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
TerrainLodRedone.esp
Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp
Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
Obsidian Weathers.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
Bee Hives.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
Enhanced Landscapes.esp
YASH2.esp
T'Skyrim - True Skyrim.esp
Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Misc&CreaturesMergeV2.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
iNeed.esp
iNeed - Extended.esp
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
Undeath.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
ETaC - Complete.esp
Armor Weapon Merge .esp
Immersive Jewelry.esp
skyrim reborn - whiterun hold.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
The Great Cities Merge.esp
Coins of Tamriel SSE Hardcore Edition.esp
Ashbound.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
SeaPointSettlement.esp
OpulentThievesGuild.esp
SBtN.esp
Whistling Mine.esp
Soljund's Sinkhole.esp
Settlements Expanded SE.esp
Man Those Borders!.esp
AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
PathOfMight.esp
T'Skyrim - True Weapons.esp
NewMergeArmor&Patrols.esp
skyBirds_SSE.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
HugeMergePatches.esp
Riften Eastern Road.esp
Golden Egg Treasure Hunt.esp
Point The Way.esp
Holidays.esp
Hearthfire Fortifications - Drako.esp
Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - Deep Immersion.esp
RSChildren.esp
Immersive Music.esp
ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp
Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
Character Addons.esp
CFTO.esp
ETAC-PAtch.esp
TSR_TeldrynSerious.esp
Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Tel Mithryn.esp
Improved Shadowmarks.esp
Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp
Raven Rock.esp
HammetDungeons.esp
Hunterborn.esp
WindPath.esp
Inigo.esp
Tel Mithryn Ashbound.esp
WindstadMine.esp
UniqueBorderGates-All.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
AHZBetterDGEntranceSE.esp
Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim City Edition - Merged - Deep Immersion.esp
Shor's Stone.esp
Skyshards.esp
Frostfall.esp
OpulentThievesGuildPatch.esp
Immersive Followers.esp
Ivarstead.esp
DiversifyingSkyrim.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
DBM_IW_Patch.esp
Disparity.esp
FarmhouseChimneys.esp
SkyrimReputation_SSE.esp
Kynesgrove.esp
Telengard.esp
Karthwasten.esp
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
Bells of Skyrim.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Spell Merge.esp
ForgottenCity.esp
Missing Apprentices CRF Quest Fix.esp
NaiGrayQuarterShack.esp
bobsarmory.esp
Dol Khazun - Mountain Stronghold.esp
UniqueBorderGates-All-BetterDGEntrance.esp
manny Lantern Caretakers.esp
Provincial Courier Service.esp
Missives.esp
CanalHomeM.esp
Settlements Expanded SE - CFTO Patch.esp
JKs Whiterun exterior.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
East Eampire Shipping.esp
Finding_VelehkSain_MAQF.esp
HoldBorderBanners.esp
Landscape For Grass mods - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
Settlements Expanded SE - Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges Patch.esp
middenexpandedlitesse.esp
JK's SkyHaven Forge.esp
ChimneyPatch.esp
CFTO-Lanterns.esp
UniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.esp
CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp
AC-Hunter Merge Pack.esp
AHZBetterDGEntranceSE - BSHeartland Patch.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
BHWarPaints.esp
BVFE_Serana.esp
Battlemage.esp
Better Dynamic Ash.esp
Bijin AIO.esp
BlockSteal.esp
Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp
CH BRU_FAL_WYR.esp
CharacterOverlays.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
ClassicLevelUp.esp
Container and Arrow Weight Restrictions.esp
Customizable Camera.esp
DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp
DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp
Dezicrah.esp
Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp
Dual Blocking for Idiots v1.35a.esp
DurnehviirResurrected.esp
Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp
ESO Skyshards - Expansion.esp
EVGConditionalIdles.esp
Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esp
Enhanced Landscapes - Dead Marsh.esp
FNIS.esp
FNIS_PCEA2.esp
ImmersiveBees.esp
FireBurns.esp
Footprints.esp
GIST soul trap.esp
GoToBed.esp
Harsh Leveling.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
HornsAreForever.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
MixingRequireContainer.esp
OblivionJailSystem.esp
Order My Items.esp
PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
Player Size Adjuster.esp
Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp
PyP_Legendary.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Raven Rock Ashbound.esp
Real Solitude Rocks.esp
RealNames - SSE Edition.esp
RealisticSwimming.esp
RedMountainErupts.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp
Scary Ghost.esp
ShadowSpellPackage.esp
Simply Rest Anywhere.esp
SimplyBalanced.esp
SkyHUD.esp
SkyTweak.esp
SkyrimReputation_SSE_Wintersun.esp
SlavePackRiekling.esp
Slow Menus for Unpaused.esp
SolstheimLighthouse.esp
TKDodge.esp
TakeNotes.esp
TaxesOfTheNineHolds.esp
TomesofPower.esp
TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
TrueArmor.esp
UIExtensions.esp
VioLens SE.esp
WGT.esp
WetandCold.esp
WindhelmRacism.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
XPMSE.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
arvak_replace.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dovahkiinrelax.esp
honedmetal.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
reflection-levelupmessages.esp
wizDynamicThings.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
CACO_Beyond Skyrim Bruma_Patch.esp
iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
CACO - iNeed DD Patch.esp
Hunterborn_CACO-SE_Patch.esp
CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreaturesSE_Patch.esp
CACO_Wintersun.esp
Keld-Nar.esp
skyBirds Rebalance CACO.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
AlternateStartExpansionPatches.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp
nwsFollowerFramework.esp
YASHed Patch.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
Smashed Patch.esp
Atlas Legendary.esp
DynDOLOD.esp

 

 

plugins.txt

 

# Automatically generated by Vortex
*ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
*RSkyrimChildren.esm
*Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
*Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
*LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
*3DNPC.esp
*AMatterOfTime.esl
*BSAssets.esm
*NoRoadPredatorsRedone.esl
*RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
*BSHeartland.esm
*DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp
*BS_DLC_patch.esp
*Campfire.esm
*RaceCompatibility.esm
*Falskaar.esm
*Gray Fox Cowl.esm
*Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
*CraftableCompass.esl
*Ecotone Dual Sheath.esl
*FISS.esp
*LockMaster.esl
*ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esl
*SleepTight.esl
*Wyrmstooth.esp
*TravellersOfSkyrim.esm
*DynDOLOD.esm
*LSFX-SSE-Audiosettings.esp
*SkyUI_SE.esp
*TerrainLodRedone.esp
*Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
*Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp
*Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp
*Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
*Obsidian Weathers.esp
*SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
*Bee Hives.esp
*Gildergreen Regrown.esp
*EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
*Enhanced Landscapes.esp
*YASH2.esp
*T'Skyrim - True Skyrim.esp
*Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
*Misc&CreaturesMergeV2.esp
*Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
*iNeed.esp
*iNeed - Extended.esp
*Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
*Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
*Undeath.esp
*Cutting Room Floor.esp
*CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
*ETaC - Complete.esp
*Armor Weapon Merge .esp
*Immersive Jewelry.esp
*skyrim reborn - whiterun hold.esp
*Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
*The Great Cities Merge.esp
*Coins of Tamriel SSE Hardcore Edition.esp
*Ashbound.esp
*Helgen Reborn.esp
*SeaPointSettlement.esp
*OpulentThievesGuild.esp
*SBtN.esp
*Whistling Mine.esp
*Soljund's Sinkhole.esp
*Settlements Expanded SE.esp
*Man Those Borders!.esp
*AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
*Better Dynamic Snow.esp
*BetterQuestObjectives.esp
*PathOfMight.esp
*T'Skyrim - True Weapons.esp
*NewMergeArmor&Patrols.esp
*skyBirds_SSE.esp
*Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
*WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
*HugeMergePatches.esp
*Riften Eastern Road.esp
*Golden Egg Treasure Hunt.esp
*Point The Way.esp
*Holidays.esp
*Hearthfire Fortifications - Drako.esp
*Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - Deep Immersion.esp
*RSChildren.esp
*Immersive Music.esp
*ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp
*Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
*TheChoiceIsYours.esp
*Inconsequential NPCs.esp
*Character Addons.esp
*CFTO.esp
*ETAC-PAtch.esp
*TSR_TeldrynSerious.esp
*Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
*Run For Your Lives.esp
*Tel Mithryn.esp
*Improved Shadowmarks.esp
*Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp
*Raven Rock.esp
*HammetDungeons.esp
*Hunterborn.esp
*WindPath.esp
*Inigo.esp
*Tel Mithryn Ashbound.esp
*WindstadMine.esp
*UniqueBorderGates-All.esp
*Immersive Patrols II.esp
*AHZBetterDGEntranceSE.esp
*Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim City Edition - Merged - Deep Immersion.esp
*Shor's Stone.esp
*Skyshards.esp
*Frostfall.esp
*OpulentThievesGuildPatch.esp
*Immersive Followers.esp
*Ivarstead.esp
*DiversifyingSkyrim.esp
*Immersive Weapons.esp
*DBM_IW_Patch.esp
*Disparity.esp
*FarmhouseChimneys.esp
*SkyrimReputation_SSE.esp
*Kynesgrove.esp
*Telengard.esp
*Karthwasten.esp
*Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
*Bells of Skyrim.esp
*Convenient Horses.esp
*Spell Merge.esp
*ForgottenCity.esp
*Missing Apprentices CRF Quest Fix.esp
*NaiGrayQuarterShack.esp
*bobsarmory.esp
*Dol Khazun - Mountain Stronghold.esp
*UniqueBorderGates-All-BetterDGEntrance.esp
*manny Lantern Caretakers.esp
*Provincial Courier Service.esp
*Missives.esp
*CanalHomeM.esp
*Settlements Expanded SE - CFTO Patch.esp
*JKs Whiterun exterior.esp
*The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
*East Eampire Shipping.esp
*Finding_VelehkSain_MAQF.esp
*HoldBorderBanners.esp
*Landscape For Grass mods - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
*Settlements Expanded SE - Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges Patch.esp
*middenexpandedlitesse.esp
*JK's SkyHaven Forge.esp
*ChimneyPatch.esp
*CFTO-Lanterns.esp
*UniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.esp
*CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp
*AC-Hunter Merge Pack.esp
*AHZBetterDGEntranceSE - BSHeartland Patch.esp
*Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
*BHWarPaints.esp
*BVFE_Serana.esp
*Battlemage.esp
*Better Dynamic Ash.esp
*Bijin AIO.esp
*BlockSteal.esp
*Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp
*CH BRU_FAL_WYR.esp
*CharacterOverlays.esp
*Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
*Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
*ClassicLevelUp.esp
*Container and Arrow Weight Restrictions.esp
*Customizable Camera.esp
*DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp
*DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp
*Dezicrah.esp
*Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp
*Dual Blocking for Idiots v1.35a.esp
*DurnehviirResurrected.esp
*Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp
*ESO Skyshards - Expansion.esp
*EVGConditionalIdles.esp
*Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esp
*Enhanced Landscapes - Dead Marsh.esp
*FNIS.esp
*FNIS_PCEA2.esp
*ImmersiveBees.esp
*FireBurns.esp
*Footprints.esp
*GIST soul trap.esp
*GoToBed.esp
*Harsh Leveling.esp
*HearthfireMultiKid.esp
*HornsAreForever.esp
*Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
*JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
*KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
*MixingRequireContainer.esp
*OblivionJailSystem.esp
*Order My Items.esp
*PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
*PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
*Player Size Adjuster.esp
*Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp
*PyP_Legendary.esp
*RaceMenu.esp
*RaceMenuPlugin.esp
*Raven Rock Ashbound.esp
*Real Solitude Rocks.esp
*RealNames - SSE Edition.esp
*RealisticSwimming.esp
*RedMountainErupts.esp
*SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp
*Scary Ghost.esp
*ShadowSpellPackage.esp
*Simply Rest Anywhere.esp
*SimplyBalanced.esp
*SkyHUD.esp
*SkyTweak.esp
*SkyrimReputation_SSE_Wintersun.esp
*SlavePackRiekling.esp
*Slow Menus for Unpaused.esp
*SolstheimLighthouse.esp
*TKDodge.esp
*TakeNotes.esp
*TaxesOfTheNineHolds.esp
*TomesofPower.esp
*TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
*TrueArmor.esp
*UIExtensions.esp
*VioLens SE.esp
*WGT.esp
*WetandCold.esp
*WindhelmRacism.esp
*WondersofWeather.esp
*XPMSE.esp
*aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
*arvak_replace.esp
*dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
*dovahkiinrelax.esp
*honedmetal.esp
*imp_helm_legend.esp
*reflection-levelupmessages.esp
*wizDynamicThings.esp
*Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
*CACO_Beyond Skyrim Bruma_Patch.esp
*iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
*CACO - iNeed DD Patch.esp
*Hunterborn_CACO-SE_Patch.esp
*CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreaturesSE_Patch.esp
*CACO_Wintersun.esp
*Keld-Nar.esp
*skyBirds Rebalance CACO.esp
*Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
*Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
*Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
*AlternateStartExpansionPatches.esp
*Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp
*nwsFollowerFramework.esp
*YASHed Patch.esp
*ELFXEnhancer.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo.esp
*Smashed Patch.esp
*Atlas Legendary.esp
*DynDOLOD.esp

 

[stuff444]

UPDATE: Reinstalled Vortex (no change). I did a clean delete of all Vortex files, still nothing. Then on the next try, I waited a little longer, and noticed that this time Vortex appeared to flicker as if refreshing, then threw me a second error warning. You see, the second message popped up about two mods being incompatible (they aren't I've made them compatible myself) and am used to seeing this. Anyway, given that Vortex appeared to have "come alive", I launched one more time, and presto!

 

To anyone who understands a connection with any of this, and how vortex works please do add something, and if moderators feel this should be moved to Vortex Technical issue, by all means. I've solved nothing, just gotten lucky, and this might happen again. For now, for whatever reason deleting plugins.txt worked. Thx.

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SOLVED: Updated OS