varkonasnorse Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) Reposted from Vortex help. It was suggested that I post it here instead. Posted Today, 03:05 PMFanMembers286 postsHoping you can help me with this. My system is as follows: Gateway DX4860Intel Core i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GhzInstalled RAM 12.0GB64-bit operating system running Windows 10 (upgrade from Windows 7) No pen or touchNVidia GT-610 graphics card I am using Vortex Ver. 1.3.22 Running Skyrim LE since 2017 without serious issues until now. Game will load and run approx. one minute then crashes. It doesn't matter where in the game the player is. You will notice quite a few followers/companions in the load order. I never use more than four at a time, and normally they are stashed at various houses I own. I do have one companion always with me though, but she isn't the problem. The following is my load order. I have color coded all the followers (orange) and DLC sized mods (blue) to make the easier to see. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Falskaar.esm 7 7 RaceCompatibility.esm 8 8 _tck_FlexContainers.esm 9 9 RigmorCyrodiil - Sounds.esm 10 a RigmorCyrodiil - Textures.esm 11 b hdtHighHeel.esm 12 c EFFCore.esm 13 d ApachiiHairFemales.esm 14 e ApachiiHair.esm 15 f Unofficial Falskaar Patch.esp 16 10 RigmorCyrodiil.esm 17 11 arnima.esm 18 12 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 19 13 guard dialogue overhaul.esp 20 14 TheRed.esp 21 15 Proudspire Manor Refined.esp 22 16 Hjerim.esp 23 17 Helgen Reborn.esp 24 18 Better Honeyside.esp 25 19 LubaSkyWings.esp 26 1a EFFDialogue.esp 27 1b RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp 28 1c MWTheHusk.esp 29 1d RigmorCyrodiil_DLC01.esp 30 1e theevilmansionde.esp 31 1f HammetDungeons.esp 32 20 SilianManor.esp 33 21 Volundr.esp 34 22 thedomain.esp 35 23 ApachiiHairStyles.esp 36 24 SolemnKeep.esp 37 25 stranger_danger.esp 38 26 Rebellion&Retribution.esp 39 27 ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp 40 28 Feminine Females.esp 41 29 tos_laintardale_hf.esp 42 2a ORVAR.esp 43 2b RigmorCyrodiilPatch.esp 44 2c visageofmzund.esp 45 2d orvarstomb2.esp 46 2e KNM_Mour.esp 47 2f zach's dwemer cairn.esp 48 30 Luma_From_Beyond.esp 49 31 RRTheRedDragonsTomb.esp 50 32 Earrings Set1.esp 51 33 Fresh Faces - USLEEP.esp 52 34 EasierRidersDungeonPack.esp 53 35 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 54 36 better skuldafn (by lyrielle2003).esp 55 37 Rigmor.esp 56 38 hrongar's_rest.esp 57 39 Sulfuras The Reclaimed Hand - Johnskyrim.esp 58 3a RaceMenu.esp 59 3b RaceMenuPlugin.esp 60 3c XPMSE.esp 61 3d UIExtensions.esp 62 3e Animated Dragon Wings.esp 63 3f Animated Fairy Wings.esp 64 40 SoniaArmor.esp 65 41 Rikushai_EmperorsWardrobe.esp 66 42 FNIS.esp 67 43 Leather Clothes.esp 68 44 LindsSpellslinger.esp 69 45 NightshadeSuit.esp 70 46 AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp 71 47 Rayg_NoBYOHAttacks.esp 72 48 SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp 73 49 SkyUI.esp 74 4a SuperUnrelentingForce.esp 75 4b UNP - Academy Dropout.esp 76 4c UNP - SWAT Hottie.esp 77 4d Ranger Outfit.esp 78 4e VayanArmor.esp 79 4f AncientDraugr.esp 80 50 Celes Rogue Armor UNP LE.esp 81 51 Claire Version 1.1.esp 82 52 Cloaks&Capes.esp 83 53 Hope100.esp 84 54 Skyrim Sizes.esp 85 55 Lilith_Follower.esp 86 56 RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp 87 57 Keri Companion.esp 88 58 SabineOfWayrest.esp 89 59 [Dint999] KSH's HDT.esp 90 5a MHBhearthfires.esp 91 5b Alexa.esp 92 5c R18Pn - Ritter Armor - Heavy.esp 93 5d TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp 94 5e Elie.esp 95 5f Elina.esp 96 60 Forgotten Crypt.esp 97 61 thalmorembassybattle.esp 98 62 LoonaShadow.esp 99 63 ThadDLCAdditionsLakeview.esp100 64 FollowerTrish.esp101 65 Raven Witch Armor.esp102 66 pp_engelmannrest.esp103 67 SirinGassil.esp104 68 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp105 69 ErynielElfV2.esp106 6a Armored Circlets.esp107 6b Mavari Armor.esp108 6c rugged_rogue.esp109 6d CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp110 6e Convenient Horses.esp111 6f CourtierLucy.esp112 70 CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp113 71 CrystalChime.esp114 72 Dark Face Bug Fix.esp115 73 EFFNakedFix.esp116 74 ESO Altmer Armor by NewrMind43.esp117 75 EmilinaSoron_v1.esp118 76 Erika Follower.esp119 77 Facelight.esp120 78 FasterCraftableCrossbowsStandAlone.esp121 79 FollowersStayClose.esp122 7a HDT Capes.esp123 7b Kamille.esp124 7c LadyKdCirclets.esp125 7d Lain Follower.esp126 7e LonelyKarliah.esp127 7f Matys Mithril armor Enhanced.esp128 80 Merta Assassin Armor.esp129 81 Mjoll Replacer.esp130 82 Mord Sith Cara.esp131 83 Nightingale Maskless.esp132 84 NosPiercedEarsAll.esp133 85 OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp134 86 OvLeatherArmor.esp135 87 OvLeatherBlack.esp136 88 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp137 89 RiaadaFunakk.esp138 8a SJBShani.esp139 8b SineadFollower.esp140 8c Skix Follower Lilla.esp141 8d SnowWhite.esp142 8e SummonSirinGassil.esp143 8f TessKruklach.esp144 90 Tish Follower.esp145 91 VSCiriDLCUNP.esp146 92 WestWindMisfit.esp147 93 _MelissaX.esp148 94 armorebonyranger.esp149 95 cheat ring.esp150 96 diara.esp151 97 ebonyheartclan.esp152 98 R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp153 99 lisette.esp154 9a lydia.esp155 9b modcarrahroseadult.esp156 9c ogDiverseDragons.esp157 9d ogUnconditionalSleepHearthfire.esp158 9e samuraiarmor.esp As you can see, the rest of the files are all mostly armors and behavioral/control files. I cannot determine where the crashes originate. The load order you see is what is returned from LOOT within Vortex. If there is something off here, I'm not seeing it. Vortex reports absolutely NO file conflicts. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance. NOTE: There is nothing in any of the logs indicating a crash condition as far as I can see. Edited March 5, 2021 by varkonasnorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaisse Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Have you tried using Crash Fixes? If nothing else it will at least create a log that may help troubleshoot where issues are. Papyrus logs are of no help to try to troubleshoot crashes. I notice you're using HDT and a few HDT related mods. There should also be an HDTPhysicsExtension.log in your SKSE/plugins folder that may or may not be of any help. I would suggest, for testing purposes, creating a new character to see if the behaviour continues (get an alternate start mod).Another way to do a quick test is from the main menu, open the console, type coc qasmoke. This will put the default NPC into a test cell to see if you still crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varkonasnorse Posted March 5, 2021 Author Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) Yes, I have crash fixes enabled, but it does nothing. HDTPhysicsExtension says nothing in the logs. Game still crashes in Qasmoke. I tried starting a new game, created a new character, and the game crashed after taking two steps. I suspect it's a mod, but I sure can't figure it out. I don't think the followers/NPCs would be the problem, but perhaps I should disable all of them and see what happens. Edited March 5, 2021 by varkonasnorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varkonasnorse Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share Posted March 6, 2021 I beleive I have found the problem. It would appear that somehow my Hearthfires DLC is corrupted. Every time I enter a house I own, the game crashes in less than 30 seconds. It seems Breezehome in Whiterun is the culprit. Whenever I attempt to enter, the screen goes black and locks up, and I have to reboot. I tried to use Creation Kit to see if I could fix the load door, but I get an error message when the files are loading and CK shuts down. I've tried re-installing the game, but only Skyrim is installed, not the DLC, so the problem persists. Steam can't help me (what's new), so I guess I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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