Severe Black Corruption on follower heads

[ShinyMud]

Just started a playthrough and noticed this, never seen it before. Seems to only happen on a couple custom followers I've downloaded from nexus. It becomes much more distorted depending on the angle I look at it from and it goes away as long as its not in my sight at all. Any fixes?

This is happening on the NPC that is right below the quest arrow

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Edited March 20, 2021 by brennan687

[anjenthedog]

• Which custom followers? (names, follower links ideally, if sourced from Nexus, LL, etc.)
• What body type(s) is/are these custom follower/s?
• Are this/these custom follower/s wearing (or otherwise equipped with) HDT/SMP hair (ie via wig, racemenu, or even intrinsic follower mod assignment), or did they "come with" any special armor/clothing which has HDT/SMP characteristics?
• Are you sure that, aside from above, that any clothing or armor they are equipped with is stable in and of itself(s)?
• Are these custom followers wearing any special armor/clothing or weapons you installed from mods, especially SMP/HDT-enabled armor/clothing? (links ideally)
• When did this issue begin happening? (ex: "after I installed *this* mod", "it's always ben like this ever since I installed her", etc)
• Does this problem happen all the time on these specific followers or is it intermittent?
• if intermittent, is it always or does it usually exhibit in the same areas?
• Are you sure it's the followers causing this visual artifact, instead of the surroundings? - ex: I have one player home that occasionally produces "angle of attack" visual artifacts. It would be easy for someone to presume that a player standing within those artifacts caused them, although in truth, the artifacts exist nowhere else other than at that home...
• Do you have any other snapshots in less "busy" locations showing this visual artifact? (to help see the artifacts clearer without the distraction of busy backgrounds)

Also, a load order (cut-pasted into a spoiler tag > see the green and white striped icon next to the font selector in the text editor) could also be of potential use to those who might choose to read and examine your issue...

- if it's not something as simple as an SMP destabilization (if follower, use one of the four SMP/CBPC mode switch hotkeys provided by BHUNP or CBBE-3BBB MCMs (and presumably for other advanced UUNP/etc body models today), for the player, the singular SMP/CBPC mode switch hotkey, or issue an SMP reset from console mode for a global SMP reset.

- or it's not something else like one of the other things I suggested in my questions, which might help you solve this on your own.

[ShinyMud]

 

• Which custom followers? (names, follower links ideally, if sourced from Nexus, LL, etc.)
• What body type(s) is/are these custom follower/s?
• Are this/these custom follower/s wearing (or otherwise equipped with) HDT/SMP hair (ie via wig, racemenu, or even intrinsic follower mod assignment), or did they "come with" any special armor/clothing which has HDT/SMP characteristics?
• Are you sure that, aside from above, that any clothing or armor they are equipped with is stable in and of itself(s)?
• Are these custom followers wearing any special armor/clothing or weapons you installed from mods, especially SMP/HDT-enabled armor/clothing? (links ideally)
• When did this issue begin happening? (ex: "after I installed *this* mod", "it's always ben like this ever since I installed her", etc)
• Does this problem happen all the time on these specific followers or is it intermittent?
• if intermittent, is it always or does it usually exhibit in the same areas?
• Are you sure it's the followers causing this visual artifact, instead of the surroundings? - ex: I have one player home that occasionally produces "angle of attack" visual artifacts. It would be easy for someone to presume that a player standing within those artifacts caused them, although in truth, the artifacts exist nowhere else other than at that home...
• Do you have any other snapshots in less "busy" locations showing this visual artifact? (to help see the artifacts clearer without the distraction of busy backgrounds)

Also, a load order (cut-pasted into a spoiler tag > see the green and white striped icon next to the font selector in the text editor) could also be of potential use to those who might choose to read and examine your issue...

- if it's not something as simple as an SMP destabilization (if follower, use one of the four SMP/CBPC mode switch hotkeys provided by BHUNP or CBBE-3BBB MCMs (and presumably for other advanced UUNP/etc body models today), for the player, the singular SMP/CBPC mode switch hotkey, or issue an SMP reset from console mode for a global SMP reset.

- or it's not something else like one of the other things I suggested in my questions, which might help you solve this on your own.

 

Hey, well first i'll state that the issue as far as I'm aware is fixed. I just re-installed the two custom followers that had the issue and it went away.

 

The two were Toccata and Miko. They both use CBBE and I have 3bbb for physics. Toccata was using a custom outfit but in my several previous playthroughs I never encountered this problem, Miko has no custom outfit. To be sure it was them, I disabled both of them and the corruption disappeared. Sorry, thats my only screenshot I have and I'm not sure on how I can re-create this problem.

 

my assumption as to how this happened was a few days ago I copied and pasted all my current mods into a backup folder cause I was gonna run my whole load order through CAO and should something go south, my mods should still be fine given that I have a backup file. Decided to revert to my backup mod list after doing that and I wonder if something went wrong during the copy/pasting part and these two followers were affected by that in some way.

 

Heres my load order should you need it:

 

00 Skyrim.esm

01 Update.esm

02 Dawnguard.esm

03 Hearthfires.esm

04 Dragonborn.esm

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06 ccBGSSSE003-Zombies.esl

07 ccBGSSSE004-RuinsEdge.esl

08 ccBGSSSE014-SpellPack01.esl

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0F ccBGSSSE045-Hasedoki.esl

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12 ccBGSSSE013-Dawnfang.esl

13 ccEEJSSE004-Hall.esl

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15 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

16 SGEyebrows.esp

17 Resources - The Great Cities.esp

18 Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl

19 ThievesGuildDagger_SE_ENG.esl

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1F SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

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21 ELFX - Exteriors.esp

22 ELFX - Weathers.esp

23 Immersive Wenches.esp

24 Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp

25 TKDodge.esp

26 WiZkiD Imperial Forts.esp

27 Praedy's SoulEssenceGem.esp

28 HearthFires Display Case Fix SE.esp

29 Realistic-Voice.esp

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2F AMatterOfTime.esp [Version 2.00]

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32 Enhanced Landscapes.esp

33 S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp

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35 Rebirth Monster.esp

36 Praedy's SoulGems.esp

37 Tamriel Master Lights.esp

38 JKs Skyrim.esp

39 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

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3F Cathedral Weathers.esp

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44 KSHairdosSMP.esp

45 MikanEyes All in one SE.esp

46 OreIngotsFadingsignal.esp

47 [Zynx][WickWah] Red Sonja Armor.esp

48 Simply No Fast Travel.esp

49 SkyHUD.esp

4A StormLightning.esp

4B [Christine] Dragon Breaker.esp

4C KS Hairdo's.esp

4D VioLens SE.esp [Version 2.22]

4E Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp

4F The Great Town of Ivarstead.esp

50 JK's - ELFX Patch.esp

51 The Great Town of Karthwasten.esp

52 The Great Town of Shor's Stone.esp

53 The Great Village of Kynesgrove.esp

54 The Great Village of Old Hroldan.esp

55 JK's Blue Palace.esp

56 OBIS SE.esp

57 The Great Village of Mixwater Mill.esp

58 Qw_ISC_USSEP Patch.esp

59 Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp

5A Man Those Borders!.esp

5B Fort(ified) Dawnguard.esp

5C Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

5D Savage Skyrim Std.esp

5E Realm of Lorkhan - Custom Alternate Start - Choose your own adventure.esp

5F DFB - Random Encounters.esp [Version 1.2aSE]

60 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

61 Immersive Weapons.esp

62 PAN_NPCs_Males.esp

63 JK's Dragonsreach.esp

64 JK's The Winking Skeever.esp

65 Sepolcri.esp

66 Sepolcri - JKs Skyrim patch.esp

67 Water for ENB.esp

68 SOTGenesisMod.esp

69 [Christine] Forsworn Retribution.esp

6A Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp

6B PAN_NPCs.esp

6C Toccata as Elisif.esp

6D Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.8]

6E EmbersHD.esp

6F AKSkyrimUnderground.esp

70 YurianaWench.esp

71 JK's_WinSk_ELFX_Patch.esp

72 Morning Fogs SSE.esp

73 Extra Guards.esp

74 JK's Radiant Raiment.esp [Version 1.0.0]

75 JK's RadReim_ELFX_Patch.esp

76 Interesting Roads.esp

77 zombie.esp

78 Red Flame.esp [Version 1.01]

79 YellowKing.esp [Version 1.00]

7A JK's Sleeping Giant Inn.esp

7B JK's Angelines Aromatics.esp [Version 1.0.0]

7C JK's AngeAroma_ELFX_Patch.esp

7D Fulcimentum - More Staves and Wands of Skyrim.esp

7E Arcanum.esp

7F JK Skyrim - TML Cities.esp

80 JK's Bits and Pieces.esp [Version 1.0.0]

81 Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp

82 Bring Out Your Dead.esp [Version 4.0.7]

83 They Took our Jobs.esp

84 Immersive Patrols II.esp

85 Kate Follower.esp

86 AZ_TordisFollower.esp

87 Chaconne.esp

88 PA44_Solitude_NPC.esp

89 PA44_Reach_NPC.esp

8A PA44_Windhelm_NPC.esp

8B TsunTsun Armor Remastered.esp

8C 3BBB.esp

8D PyP_Legendary.esp

8E TheCleaner.esp

8F AutoHideAmmo.esp

90 cs_soulfragmentstosoulgems.esp

91 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp

92 Eli_SMIM-Hendraheim-Patch.esp

93 GDOS - Splendid Mechanized Dwemer Door.esp

94 NewmillerDarkVampKnight.esp

95 HitStop.esp

96 Book of UUNP - Textures.esp

97 ThugsNotAssassins.esp

98 WetFunction.esp

99 Potions.esp

9A Lupine_YyvengarBodypaints.esp

9B skyforgedWeapons.esp

9C OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp

9D Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp

9E DeadlyDragons.esp

9F Durnehviir God of Death.esp

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A1 NewArmoury.esp

A2 VisualAnimatedEnchants.esp

A3 Colorful_Magic_SE.esp [Version to]

A4 JK's Arcadia's Cauldron.esp [Version 1]

A5 EasierRidersDungeonPackSSE.esp

A6 Toccata.esp

A7 JKs Skyrim_BOYD_Patch.esp

A8 Hateful Wenches.esp

A9 mihailzombies.esp

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AB ogFalkreathHauntings.esp

AC The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp

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AE TAWOBA REMASTERED Leveled List.esp

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B5 mihailskinnedhound.esp

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BB nordlongboatv.2.esp

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CA BW Aela.esp

CB PAN_FollowerPack1.esp

CC OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp

CD Eli_Landscape Fixes Hendraheim Patch.esp

CE 1Hungers.esp

CF TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 9]

D0 ScarletDawnArmor.esp

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D2 Shout.esp

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D4 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp

D5 NorthernGrass.esp

D6 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp

D7 Reduce Attack Scating Movement.esp

D8 PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp

D9 PA44_ThievesGuild_NPC.esp

DA 3DNPC0.esp

DB Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.esp

DC Heart Breaker SE.esp [Version 1.3]

DD HQ Tintmasks for Immersive Wenches.esp

DE HavoksLipPatterns.esp

DF EVGConditionalIdles.esp

E0 FacelightPlus.esp

E1 FNIS.esp

E2 FNIS_PCEA2.esp

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E5 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

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E8 dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp

E9 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp

EA [COCO] Pinup Cheongsam.esp

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EC CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp

ED CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp

EE DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

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F4 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

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F6 JK's Belethor's General Goods.esp

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FB Heritage - Immersive Creatures Compatibility.esp

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FD Bijin NPCs.esp

FE Bijin Wives.esp

FF BikiniRobesStandalone.esp

100 BikiniRobes_OutfitReplacerCompatibility.esp

101 BloodKin Bow.esp

102 CBBE.esp

103 Brows.esp

104 CommunityOverlays3.esp

105 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

106 DX Dark Knight Armor.esp

107 DX Necromancer Robes.esp

108 DX Succubus Armor.esp

109 PA44_Companions_NPC.esp

10A Crimson Storm.esp

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10C Ace Blood Magic SE.esp

10D Praedy's ShrineOfAzuraSizeX2.esp

10E AzuraFXEnbLightX2.esp

10F 50 More Perk Points.esp

110 EnhancedAtronachs.esp

111 Black Thief.esp

112 Dragons Bane.esp

113 Arctic Wolf Bow.esp

114 Better Females - Eyebrows.esp

115 Better Dynamic Snow.esp

116 S3DTrees Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp

117 BlendedRoads.esp

118 Better Harvesting.esp

119 Qw_Skyrim3DTrees_FloraRespawnFix Patch.esp

11A aMidianBorn_Book of Silence.esp

11B MoreBrains.esp

11C UIExtensions.esp

11D RaceMenu.esp

11E RaceMenuPlugin.esp

11F RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

120 XPMSE.esp

121 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp

122 Forgotten Wenches.esp

123 Judgment Wenches.esp

124 UltimateCombat.esp

125 Realistic Melee Range.esp [Version 1.1]

126 ENB Light.esp

127 CBBE muscle solution weight slider.esp

128 thair.esp

129 Hedy.esp

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12C Supreme Fog.esp

12D StaminaMatters.esp

12E MigSlowAtk.esp

12F High Poly Pretty Face and Darker Brows Stand Alone.esp

130 Miko.esp

131 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

132 MLU.esp

133 SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp

134 SoS_ELFX+Enhancer+Weathers_Patch.esp

135 ZIA_Complete Pack.esp

136 MLU - ZIA.esp

137 SoS_Cathedral_Patch.esp

138 Rebirth Monster - MLU Patch.esp

139 MLU - Guards Armor Replacer patch.esp

13A MLU - Immersive Armors.esp

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13D Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

13E Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

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140 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp

141 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp

142 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

143 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

144 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

145 Qw_BijinAIO_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp

146 CWIBDSPatch.esp

147 CWIEnLFXSEPatch.esp

148 CWISPOPatchSE.esp

149 bijin-brelyna-icow.esp

----> MISSING MASTER: Bijin_AIO-SV 2018.esp

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14E Enhanced Landscapes - IC Patch.esp

14F nwsFollowerFramework.esp

150 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

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