FallenSword Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I haven't found any real viking armor, i don't really think the guys from north walked without fur clothes and heavy armors, i would like to see a full armor set of a viking warrior/chieftain. It would be good to have like 10-15 of those so you can equip your companions with those, of course it would be even more awesome if there were differences like missing shoulder armor part etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrmaad Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I haven't found any real viking armor, i don't really think the guys from north walked without fur clothes and heavy armors, i would like to see a full armor set of a viking warrior/chieftain. It would be good to have like 10-15 of those so you can equip your companions with those, of course it would be even more awesome if there were differences like missing shoulder armor part etc. Historically, the usual garments were made of wool, linen, and some leathers. Look it up : "Anglecynn", "Norsemen", European culture from 400 AD to about 900 AD. and etc. There was a revival in the 11th century, but it's getting to the end of their cultural era. Edit: http://www.vikingsonline.org.uk/resources/.../basickit3.html GENERAL AUTHENTICITY POINTS Wool Weave (See Also Annex 1)Modern machine woven cloth tends to be 'fluffy' on one side, concealing the weave. The other side is usually satisfactory and can be used in preference. Some "fluffing up" was done by the Vikings however, but mainly on cloaks . A shaggy appearance was obtained by combing the cloak with a teasel, thereby making the cloak warmer to wear. The Vikings were not the barbarians that our Victorian forefathers imagined, so extremely coarsely woven cloth such as sack cloth, is not required for clothing. 10 threads per centimeter was average, whilst 60 threads per centimetre was not uncommon for extremely fine material. Chequered patterns in the weave were probably known to the Anglo-Danes. To preserve a degree of cultural identity however, it is thought best to leave chequered material to the Celts of our society. This will enable them to be more readily recognisable in shows. The same weave and colour rules apply to checks with the addition that two colour checks were the most common, a rich man or leader wore three or four. Colours (See Also Annex 2)Two types of dye are known, permanent and non-permanent. The latter tended to fade quickly and so were never really very bright, but plentiful and cheap. All earthy shades of yellow, brown, brick red, grey and some greens were well known, whilst pink and pale blue were also fairly common. Permanent dyes tended to be quite expensive and give fairly bright colours. For this guide though, avoid all bright blues, greens, reds, bleached white and 'shiny' black. Undyed white wool was used for socks, whilst a mixture of undyed white and dark brown wool was used for cloaks. Only the poorest classes (thralls and Fri-Hals ) used undyed wool for kyrtles and trousers, they simply could not afford the dye. Linen is difficult to dye and undyed garments have been found. Linen was probably used in the main for under-garments. Stitching (See Also Annex 3)Hand-sewn stitches need to be kept small and neat. Some surviving needle work is so perfect that modern machine stitches are put to shame. Poly-cottons can be used, but pure cotton is probably better, hand sewn if possible. Avoid bright colours and seam ends that are obviously machined. Equally inauthentic are clothing seams roughly hacked off with no re-enforcement, leaving the edges prone to fraying. No self-respecting 'Drengr' would go about thus poorly attired. Al1 edges would be properly hemmed and seamed, using a contrasting coloured thread if required. Tablet Woven Braid (see also Annex 4)Do not use machined braid, no braid at all is more authentic than imitation braid. Braid is easy to make or cheap to buy, although it is not essential. Braid was favoured by the wealthy and the status-conscious, although the Saxons were renowned for their embroidery. Necks and cuffs were most often decorated in this way, displayed where it could be seen. sometimes, to achieve the same effect as the embroidery used by the rich, a band of contrasting material was sewn around collars and cuffs as decoration. For a basic guide however, no braid at all is probably the best. Do not use metal eyelets, the Vikings did not have them. Reinforce any holes (for draw strings, etc) with button hole stitching. Buttons however, were rare. Neck slits were fastened with brooches or draw strings. Cuffs were tight fitting or else fastened with so called 'garter' or clothing hooks as in figure 1. Clothing hooks can be bought, contact the society trading officer. Otherwise, clothing hooks can be made quite easily, (see Annex 5). http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/launch_tl_british.shtmlhttp://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/02/28/2174844.htmhttp://www.oldandsold.com/articles09/clothes-17.shtml Pretty much the below is a pretty good representation of the reality vs the fantasy: Reality vs Fantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenSword Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 http://outlander.solsector.net/CONCEPT%20A...iglif_Armor.jpg Altough they needed to defend themselves with a normal armor. Yea i know what were the garments made of, i just didn't bother to make sure if iam right, sorry. But honestly, those barbarian armors don't really fit in as vikings, imagine that half naked guys sailing when there's storm... right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrmaad Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 http://outlander.solsector.net/CONCEPT%20A...iglif_Armor.jpg Altough they needed to defend themselves with a normal armor. Yea i know what were the garments made of, i just didn't bother to make sure if iam right, sorry. But honestly, those barbarian armors don't really fit in as vikings, imagine that half naked guys sailing when there's storm... right... I don't know what barbarian armors you're speaking of.. ? I edited my post before I saw your reply. The concept art is a great armor, and is perfect for a fantasy game. I like it. Reality is only important in politics and relationships anyway. I'm having the usual weekend IPS errors on this site. Here is another excellent link http://www.hurstwic.org/history/articles/d...xt/clothing.htm This is also quite interesting: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...ish_bogmen.html I had something else, but I got distracted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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