Dragbody Power Armor mod causes crash when loading saves

[crypticsaturn]

Second post but now for a much bigger issue, Dragbody's power armor is causing my game to crash on save. If I have the armor equip, CTD, if not then it loads. What the hell is going on for this to be happening, it's incredibly confusing and I don't know what the issue is. I've tried moving my load order around to no avail and it's really starting to annoy. I haven't found any reference to online why this is happening and it's absolutely confusing.

 

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[Druuler]

Of which power armour mod of Dragbody's are you referring to? The only one he has here on the Nexus is the Legion Power Armour mod, and I do not see it in your load order.

[crypticsaturn]

Of which power armour mod of Dragbody's are you referring to? The only one he has here on the Nexus is the Legion Power Armour mod, and I do not see it in your load order.

 

The one on gunetwork, the Fallout 4 replacer version

Currently it just loads the save for a split second then crashes. It doesn't do that when my PA is unequipped

[dubiousintent]

You should always start troubleshooting from any error messages you can see. (They are your best "clue"; and why they exist at all.) We don't expect you to be able to interpret those messages, but reporting such accurately and in detail (i.e. screenshots) is an essential first step. (See "How to markup images (etc) in forum posts and comments" article for how to use "Image tags", etc..)

Anytime the game "Crashes to the Desktop" (CTD) it's typically going to generate an error message in the Windows Eventlog because both the game engine and Windows itself was not able to predictably handle the error. Please see the "Windows Error Messages" section of the wiki "How to read most Bethesda game error logs" article. These errors need to be dealt with first. A 'freeze" is very similar to a CTD in that the game does not know how to proceed but has not generated a error either it or Windows can react to. Do not expect all events recorded in the Eventlog to generate an "on screen" message.

Logs generated by the game itself (not Windows) are found in the game folder, where the "FalloutNV.EXE" file is located. They generally have the ".log" file extension, or a filename with "_log" in the name and a ".txt" extension.

-Dubious-

[crypticsaturn]

The log in the NV directory folder says nothing in regards to errors. It also doesn't generate an error message, just straight up crashes with nothing to show for it.

[dubiousintent]

Check the Windows Eventlog. Entries there usually do not "pop up" on screen and record events which the game itself does not get the chance to report.

 

I'm anticipating "Windows Exception code: 0xc0000005". The "Faulting Application" is often the victim of another program rather than the actual culprit, making it virtually impossible for the user to trace the source. In at least one instance it appears to be caused by VWD/LOD files that had not been regenerated (when caught by NVAC as "DISABLED _LOD_ERR"). Any recent update since the last time it was working correctly is suspect, as are viruses even if you have anti-virus (AV) running. Run AV from multiple sources when checking for infections. There are a number of free online scanners on the internet (though they are all going to try to sell you their services after the first time).

You may need to exclude FNV from "Data Execution Protection (DEP)" and configure " Windows Defender Exploit Guard (WDEG)" (or Microsoft's "Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit (EMET)" for Win7). Please see "Issue - NVSE - fails to load after update KB4058043 to Win10 FCU v1709" under the 'Solutions to Starting the game problems' section of the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" article.

Try turning off any unnecessary background processes, such as "anti-virus" or "anti-malware" programs (unneeded if you are running your game in "offline" mode once you have scanned since the last connection), multiplayer "overlays" like "OverWolf" (this is single-player after all), the Steam overlay, etc., at least on a temporary basis to see if they are interfering. There are also tools (often called "Game Boosters") to help you determine "unnecessary when offline" Windows services you can temporarily shut down.

It is also possible that any recent change to your mods (such as updates) or your existing "load order" (such as additions or removals) has caused a corruption of the current save game file. Try going back to a save game from before the problem started. Often starting a "new game" with a vanilla test character can help confirm if the problem lies in the current load order.

-Dubious-

[crypticsaturn]

To answer your crash on new character question it does, I'll try the other options as well

[Druuler]

 

Of which power armour mod of Dragbody's are you referring to? The only one he has here on the Nexus is the Legion Power Armour mod, and I do not see it in your load order.

 

The one on gunetwork, the Fallout 4 replacer version

Currently it just loads the save for a split second then crashes. It doesn't do that when my PA is unequipped

 

I figured as much. I would suggest asking for help on G.U.N. in the appropriate thread. Dragbody is still active, from what I understand.

[crypticsaturn]

Check the Windows Eventlog. Entries there usually do not "pop up" on screen and record events which the game itself does not get the chance to report.

 

I'm anticipating "Windows Exception code: 0xc0000005". The "Faulting Application" is often the victim of another program rather than the actual culprit, making it virtually impossible for the user to trace the source. In at least one instance it appears to be caused by VWD/LOD files that had not been regenerated (when caught by NVAC as "DISABLED _LOD_ERR"). Any recent update since the last time it was working correctly is suspect, as are viruses even if you have anti-virus (AV) running. Run AV from multiple sources when checking for infections. There are a number of free online scanners on the internet (though they are all going to try to sell you their services after the first time).

 

You may need to exclude FNV from "Data Execution Protection (DEP)" and configure " Windows Defender Exploit Guard (WDEG)" (or Microsoft's "Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit (EMET)" for Win7). Please see "Issue - NVSE - fails to load after update KB4058043 to Win10 FCU v1709" under the 'Solutions to Starting the game problems' section of the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" article.

 

Try turning off any unnecessary background processes, such as "anti-virus" or "anti-malware" programs (unneeded if you are running your game in "offline" mode once you have scanned since the last connection), multiplayer "overlays" like "OverWolf" (this is single-player after all), the Steam overlay, etc., at least on a temporary basis to see if they are interfering. There are also tools (often called "Game Boosters") to help you determine "unnecessary when offline" Windows services you can temporarily shut down.

 

It is also possible that any recent change to your mods (such as updates) or your existing "load order" (such as additions or removals) has caused a corruption of the current save game file. Try going back to a save game from before the problem started. Often starting a "new game" with a vanilla test character can help confirm if the problem lies in the current load order.

 

-Dubious-

Looking at the windows log, it tells me these things

Exception code: 0xc0000005

Fault offset: 0x0065e560

Faulting process id: 0x4fc4

Alto turning off background processes does nothing as well

[crypticsaturn]

Update: Tried disabling the various mods related to power armor and the problem persists, loading the game with power armor on crashes it. And based on the post mentioned above, it appears to a memory issue with regards to Power Armor