hentaishinri Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) Just another CTD topic...I bought a new computer and put my old hard-drive on it.I started ModOrganizer (since thats what I'm using), I updated all the old mods, made a wryebash patch and started the game.Now it crashes occasionaly without any real context, it's so random that I can't figure out what's causing it.Sometimes it's when I travel, sometimes when I hit... I was once afk in my house for 2 minutes and when I came back it had crashed.So yeah, I would appreciate your help, thank you :smile:EDIT: Boss now says this:Note: The order of plugins set by BOSS differs from their order in its masterlist, as one or more of the installed plugins is false-flagged. For more information, see "file:../Docs/BOSS%20Readme.html#appendix-c False-Flagged Plugins". Edit (30.08): Most recent papyrus log (I tried hosting it somewhere online, but there isn't a website that hosts text files that big)downloadable file EDIT: Most recent BOSS log (03.09) These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Dawnguard.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveApachiiHair.esm ActiveApachiiHairMales.esm ActiveSkyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm Active3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm ActiveJSwords.esm ActiveSPIKE.esm ActiveXFLMain.esm ActiveNote: For safe mod uninstall see special uninstallation instructions on mod page.SoS - The Dungeons.esp ActiveNote: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.SoS - The Wilds.esp ActiveNote: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.SoS - Civilization.esp ActiveNote: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}Rainbows.esp ActiveRooster At Dawn v1.0.esp ActiveThundering Shouts.esp Activerealrainextended.esp Activefantasy music overhaul.esp Activefantasy music overhaul - unique town music.esp ActiveEconomics of Skyrim.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Economics of Skyrim - Dawnguard.esp ActiveDead Body Collision.esp ActiveDual Sheath Redux.esp ActiveRequires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+High Level Enemies.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Immersive Battles.esp ActiveImmersive Brigands.esp ActiveImmersive Dawnguard.esp ActiveImmersive Dragonborn.esp ActiveImmersive Factions.esp ActiveImmersive Mercenaries.esp ActiveImmersive Patrols.esp ActiveImmersive Travelers.esp ActiveImmersive Werewolves.esp ActiveBook Covers Skyrim.esp ActiveBook Covers Dawnguard.esp ActiveBook Covers Hearthfire.esp ActiveRadiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE.esp ActiveReal Clouds.esp ActiveShootingStars.esp ActiveSkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp ActiveSPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp ActiveSPTDiverseGuardsSkyrimDGPatch.esp ActiveConvenient Horses.esp ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.JSwords_Load_Screens.esp ActiveWetandCold.esp ActiveWetandCold - Ashes.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp ActiveAvatar of Baltazar.esp ActiveCloaks.esp ActiveCloaks - Dawnguard.esp Active1nivWICCloaks.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp ActiveDragonbone Weapons.esp ActiveDragonbone Weapons - Faster Arrows.esp ActiveElemental Staves.esp ActiveFaalSizaan.esp Activehothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Immersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}NarquelionBow.esp ActiveNewermind Bow Collection.esp ActiveNicoroshi Creations.esp ActiveskyforgedShields.esp ActiveTERA Weapons.esp ActiveTwisterBow.esp ActiveUnique Uniques.esp ActiveUniqueBows.esp Active3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp ActiveDeadlyDragons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp ActiveDeadlyMonsters.esp Activebuildablehouse.esp ActiveImmersive Events.esp ActiveMy Home Is Your Home.esp ActiveMzarkWonders.esp ActiveRun For Your Lives.esp ActiveWhen Vampires Attack.esp Activewhiterun spruce by revan1199.esp ActiveAchieveThat.esp ActiveBabette.esp ActiveGuard Dialogue Overhaul.esp ActivedD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActivedD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp ActivePopulated Cities 2.esp ActiveRealisticRoomRental.esp ActiveRRR_Hearthfire-Patch.esp ActiveRRR_Dragonborn-Patch.esp ActiveSoundPropagationOverhaul.esp ActiveFootstepsSoundsOverhaul.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp ActiveRLO - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch.esp ActiveSaturationBoost.esp ActiveSoS - The Dungeons-PatchSPO.esp ActiveSoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp ActiveSoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp ActiveSoS - The Wilds-PatchSPO.esp ActiveSoS - Civilization-PatchSPO.esp ActiveSoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp ActiveSoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities.esp ActivePredator Vision.esp ActiveWerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6.esp ActiveWerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6b.esp ActiveHitStop.esp ActiveImproved Dragon Shouts.esp ActiveImproved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp ActiveImproved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp ActiveBetterMagic_FULL.esp ActiveBFSEffects.esp ActiveFNISspells.esp ActiveForgottenMagic.esp ActiveShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp ActivePath of Shadows.esp ActiveDuel - Combat Realism.esp ActiveACE Realistic Fighting.esp ActiveDeadlyCombat.esp ActiveDeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp ActiveDragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp ActiveThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp ActiveTKDodge.esp ActiveACE BYOG.esp ActiveACE Speech.esp ActiveACE Archery.esp ActiveACE Armor.esp ActiveACE Enchanting.esp ActiveACE Magic.esp ActiveACE Melee.esp ActiveACE Smithing.esp ActiveACE Synergy.esp ActiveTheEyesOfBeauty.esp Active3DNPC.esp ActiveXFLDialogue.esp ActiveXFLPlugins.esp ActiveBetter Followers - SBP.esp ActiveRequires: Better Followers - Armor Pack I & II, download it on BF page.Note: Use only one Better Followers - *.esp.Better NPC - Faction Pack.esp ActiveSpousetocustomhome.esp ActivedD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp ActiveNote: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.WATER.esp ActiveWATER Plants.esp ActiveWATER DB Waves.esp ActiveGreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp ActiveBashed Patch, 0.esp ActiveASIS-Dependency.esp ActiveASIS.esp ActiveDual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Active Unrecognized plugins (03.09)DeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch.esp ActiveFS_UltimateAssortment.esp Activedunmerlantern.esp ActivezzzSXP.esp Active Edited September 3, 2013 by hentaishinri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Do you have this Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+ , RND_Water-Patch.esp and Armor Pack I & II? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hentaishinri Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 Do you have this Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+ , RND_Water-Patch.esp and Armor Pack I & II?Well I have Java, I don't have realistic needs and diseases at all..And yeah I have the armor packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hentaishinri Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 anyone? D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hentaishinri Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hentaishinri Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 bump :/ (still no change ingame) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0c0c0 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 How often are you crashing? This is a fairly heavily set of mods you are running so the occasional CTD is not that unusual. It's kinda the price of admission. With "random" CTDs, the most likely causes relate to memory spikes. These can be caused by HD textures, scripts, and ESP conflicts. In any combination, or none. Nothing in your load list sticks out as something nobody in their right mind runs, so I'm betting it's the overall combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hentaishinri Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 How often are you crashing? This is a fairly heavily set of mods you are running so the occasional CTD is not that unusual. It's kinda the price of admission. With "random" CTDs, the most likely causes relate to memory spikes. These can be caused by HD textures, scripts, and ESP conflicts. In any combination, or none. Nothing in your load list sticks out as something nobody in their right mind runs, so I'm betting it's the overall combination.I don't have HD textures, I don't have anything that improves textures at all (except better landscape, some facial mods and some clouds mods... thats it) and what is "Nothing in your load list sticks out as something nobody in their right mind runs" supposed to mean? that I'm not in my right mind to run those mods? I do, though, have a lot of script depending mods... actually, almost all the mods I use are those...I'd also like to point out that I have reached too far into the game and I don't want to start a new game, just so I can lose a couple of mods taht "could be" the cause.I would also like to point out that I didn't had these "memory spikes" before, I was running perfectly fine, on a even slower PC... so yeah, idk what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hentaishinri Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 How often are you crashing? This is a fairly heavily set of mods you are running so the occasional CTD is not that unusual. It's kinda the price of admission.Oh, to answer that - not in any particular set of time... I played 4 hours yesterday and crashed when I went into a cave.I ragequit for teh whole day. I started the game today and played for 40 minutes and crashed when I was hit by a fireball.The other day I crashed when I fell down (I jumped with my horse from a cliff) and I was playing for about an hour...to be fair, the only thing taht I've noticed is that I can't play more than 4-5 hours, but other than that it's mostly random...Most of the crashes occur when im transitioning areas, to be honest, if that makes sense (around 60% of the crashes are from transitioning) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0c0c0 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 what is "Nothing in your load list sticks out as something nobody in their right mind runs" supposed to mean? that I'm not in my right mind to run those mods? Just the opposite. I didn't see anything particularly risky. There is no obvious culprit, to my eyes. I played 4 hours yesterday and crashed when I went into a cave....the only thing taht I've noticed is that I can't play more than 4-5 hours, but other than that it's mostly random... Hate to say it but, that isn't that bad. I'd be a mighty happy man if I only crashed once in 1-4 hours of play. And the fact that it's worse than is use to be is also pretty normal. Save files seem to accumulate "cruft" over time and become more and more unstable. Maybe someone else can see something in your load that's shifty but the problem you have described to me pretty much sounds like life in the fast lane. More mods = less stability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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