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Hi, I am looking for some help with some highly annoying Skyrim Crashes to Desktop (CTD)

 

These have largely been happening after starting the Dawnguard quest during combat, and are virtually making it unplayable. I would rather not lose all the character development and progress I have made to date, nor use the standard interface if I don't have to!

 

The crashes only happen when running SKSE (Skyrim Script Extender); they do not happen without it. They only seemed to start happening when I began adventuring with Serana as part of the Dawnguard quest.

 

Other things eliminated from enquiries are the mere presence of mods (they still happened from recent save after disabling and removing all mods) and recent graphics card updates (I rolled them back several months). I also ran just ran a full clean re-installation of Skyrim, and then all mods. However, every time I tell Steam to re-validate the game cache after running, it tells me that 1 file has failed to validate and will be re-acquired.

 

I have an annoying crackling sound that affects me in 1st-person view every time I load a game, but I can get rid of that by doing player.sexchange twice, and can live with it.

 

All this makes me think that it is something about a script. I have downloaded the Save Game Cleaner http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/31724/? and run it on my savegame, then used it to remove the fxDustDropRandomSCRIPT which looked to be causing problems. I also did a “ClearInvalidRegistrations” after the save cleaner, which said it did not find anything.

After reinstallation of everything I let Convenient Horses do its thing, saved again, then ran the Cleaner again, which said it found a shedload of things on both “Fix All” and “Fix Script Instances.”

 

Onto the technical stuff:

 

SKSE 1.6.16 from the readme file

Skyrim 1.9.32 (if the skse .dll file is anything to go by; Steam is set to update on high priority) in standard steamapps/common directory

Nexus Mod Manager 0.49.3

 

Here is my list of plugins :

 

 

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

LFox Bottle That Blood.esp

SkyUI.esp

BloodWitchArmor.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

DaedricWOP.esp

FemaleMannequinsNord.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Odvar.esp

BVFE_Serana.esp

 

Not showing up on this list but also installed by NMM I have:

 

Better Dialogue Controls

BVFE – Better Vampire Fangs and Eyes- Better Vampire Fangs and Eyes (non-glowing eye version)

Double Cursor Fix

Realistic Transparent Armors and Weapons v3 – VANILLA CBBE female- vanilla male … v2-0

Sky UI (I really can't live with the standard interface)

 

 

 

 

These are after running through BOSS. I have had problems with BOSS stalling or failing to detect game, which I gather may be due to steam removing the game's registry value...

 

BOSS Log:

 

 

 

Summary

 

Plugin Type

Count

Recognised (or sorted by user rules)

21

Unrecognised

0

Inactive

0

All

21

Plugin Message Type

Count

Warning

0

Error

0

All

14

  • Masterlist updated; at revision: 3092018fd.

  • No change in recognised plugin list since last run.

  • Note: Latest BOSS thread

  • Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.

 

 

SKSE Plugins:

 

SKSE Version: 0.1.6.16

  • DCF_plugin.dll

 

Recognised Plugins:

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

  • Skyrim.esm Active

  • Update.esm Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

    • Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

  • Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

  • Dawnguard.esm Active

    • Contains dirty edits: 619 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

  • Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

  • HearthFires.esm Active

    • Contains dirty edits: 184 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

  • Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 Active

  • Dragonborn.esm Active

    • Contains dirty edits: 61 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

  • Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

  • LFox Bottle That Blood.esp Active

  • SkyUI.esp Version 4.1 Active

  • BloodWitchArmor.esp Active

  • 1nivWICCloaks.esp Version 2.3 Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

  • Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Active

  • Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Version 7.1 Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

  • Immersive Weapons.esp Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

  • DaedricWOP.esp Active

  • FemaleMannequinsNord.esp Active

    • Note: Use only one FemaleMannequins esp.

  • Convenient Horses.esp Version 14950 Active

    • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

  • Odvar.esp Active

  • BVFE_Serana.esp Active

 

[No Unrecognised Plugins page]

 

 

 

 

 

Here are the start of my system specs from DxDiag. I run Bullguard Tune-up, CCleaner and do Maintenence frequently.

NB CCleaner often shows up an “Obselete Software key : HKLM\Software\bethesda softworks”

Extra NB My machine seems set up to use only two of its four processors, which I must get fixed sometime, but it hasn't interfered with Skyrim in the past; for a long time, it ran like a dream.

 

 

 

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System Information

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Time of this report: 4/15/2014, 12:16:01

Machine name: DESKTOP

Operating System: Windows 8.1 64-bit (6.3, Build 9600) (9600.winblue_gdr.131030-1505)

Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

BIOS: BIOS Date: 11/23/12 22:09:37 Ver: 04.06.05

Processor: AMD A10-6800K APU with Radeon HD Graphics (4 CPUs), ~4.1GHz

Memory: 8192MB RAM

Available OS Memory: 8144MB RAM

Page File: 2795MB used, 13539MB available

Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS

DirectX Version: DirectX 11

DX Setup Parameters: Not found

User DPI Setting: Using System DPI

System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)

DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled

DxDiag Version: 6.03.9600.16384 64bit Unicode

 

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DxDiag Notes

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Display Tab 1: No problems found.

Sound Tab 1: No problems found.

Sound Tab 2: No problems found.

Input Tab: No problems found.

 

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DirectX Debug Levels

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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)

DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)

DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)

DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)

DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)

DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)

DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

 

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Display Devices

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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660

Manufacturer: NVIDIA

Chip type: GeForce GTX 660

DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC

Device Type: Full Device

Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_11C0&SUBSYS_26673842&REV_A1

Display Memory: 7065 MB

Dedicated Memory: 2993 MB

Shared Memory: 4071 MB

Current Mode: 1600 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor

Monitor Model: ES240d

Monitor Id: GKE0236

Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)

Output Type: DVI

Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um

Driver File Version: 9.18.0013.3523 (English)

Driver Version: 9.18.13.3523

DDI Version: 11

Feature Levels: 11.0,10.1,10.0,9.3,9.2,9.1

Driver Model: WDDM 1.3

Graphics Preemption: DMA

Compute Preemption: DMA

Miracast: Not Supported

Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported

Power P-states: Not Supported

Driver Attributes: Final Retail

Driver Date/Size: 3/4/2014 15:35:23, 17755424 bytes

WHQL Logo'd: Yes

WHQL Date Stamp:

Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-5280-11CF-3156-6A061CC2C435}

Vendor ID: 0x10DE

Device ID: 0x11C0

SubSys ID: 0x26673842

Revision ID: 0x00A1

Driver Strong Name: oem34.inf:0f066de34ffc3860:Section095:9.18.13.3523:pci\ven_10de&dev_11c0

Rank Of Driver: 00DA2001

Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C

DXVA2 Modes: DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_IDCT DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_VLD DXVA2_ModeVC1_VLD DXVA2_ModeVC1_IDCT DXVA2_ModeWMV9_IDCT DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT

Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here is my Papyrus Log before a crash (from loading second file)

 

 

 

[04/15/2014 - 07:04:58PM] warning: Property LFoxBloodAnimalBottlePerk on script LFoxBTBBottleBloodQuestScript attached to LFoxBottleBloodQuest (0900182A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:01PM] warning: Property Act_DoActionOnlyOnce on script DLC2dunNchardakPedestalScript attached to (0701D4C9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Loading game...
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Object handle 0x24E230C0 is missing from the object table - variable value will be cleared
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Unable to load object 0x249CE040 from save game
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Object handle 0x24CDBAC0 is missing from the object table - variable value will be cleared
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Unable to load object 0x23D8F180 from save game
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Object handle 0x24D80BE0 is missing from the object table - variable value will be cleared
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Object handle 0x24DB7E40 is missing from the object table - variable value will be cleared
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Unable to load object 0x25F991D8 from save game
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Object handle 0x24FAB8C0 is missing from the object table - variable value will be cleared
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Unable to load object 0x23244C68 from save game
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Object handle 0x24C616C0 is missing from the object table - variable value will be cleared
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Unable to load object 0x24967350 from save game
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Object handle 0x24CDBAC0 is missing from the object table - variable value will be cleared
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Unable to load object 0x249A94F8 from save game
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Object handle 0x24CAD460 is missing from the object table - variable value will be cleared
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Object handle 0x24CAD900 is missing from the object table - variable value will be cleared
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Error: Unable to load object 0x25F94370 from save game
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 913997 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Firefly..OnStart in stack frame 1 in stack 913997 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 913992 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Firefly..OnStart in stack frame 1 in stack 913992 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 1038493 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Firefly..OnStart in stack frame 1 in stack 1038493 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 913970 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Firefly..OnStart in stack frame 1 in stack 913970 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 1038503 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Firefly..OnStart in stack frame 1 in stack 1038503 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 517461 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Firefly..OnStart in stack frame 1 in stack 517461 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 507166 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Firefly..OnStart in stack frame 1 in stack 507166 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 517466 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Firefly..OnStart in stack frame 1 in stack 517466 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 507171 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Firefly..OnStart in stack frame 1 in stack 507171 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 517471 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Firefly..OnStart in stack frame 1 in stack 517471 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 517477 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Firefly..OnStart in stack frame 1 in stack 517477 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 507175 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Firefly..OnStart in stack frame 1 in stack 507175 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 507178 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Firefly..OnStart in stack frame 1 in stack 507178 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 1038497 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Firefly..OnStart in stack frame 1 in stack 1038497 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 1038512 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] warning: Function Firefly..OnStart in stack frame 1 in stack 1038512 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:11PM] Errors occurred while loading the Papyrus save game data
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:12PM] VM is thawing...
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:12PM] InitWidgetLoader()
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:12PM] ========== Convenient Horses: Scanning for supported plugins...
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:12PM] ========== ERRORS RELATED TO MISSING FILES SHOULD BE IGNORED!
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:12PM] Error: File "Falskaar.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 122
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:12PM] Error: File "Wyrmstooth.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 123
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:12PM] Error: File "Convenient Horse Herding.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 124
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:12PM] Error: File "XFLMain.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 125
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:12PM] Error: File "UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 126
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:12PM] Error: File "3DNPC.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 127
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:12PM] Error: File "HothFollower.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 128
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:12PM] Error: File "CompanionValfar.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() -

"<native>" Line ?
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 129
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:12PM] Error: File "CompanionArissa.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 130
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:12PM] Error: File "SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 131
[CH (12020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 157
[04/15/2014 - 07:05:12PM] ========== Convenient Horses: Scan complete.

 

 

 

Other weirdnesses I have noticed, which may be down to my imperfect understanding:

Before reinstallation, tcl would turn noclipping on, but not off

Serana is 03002b74 when clicked on, but 03002b6c from “help Serana” The # from “help” doesn't work.

03002b74.moveto player didn't work, but “prid # followed by “moveto player” worked.

 

Any help would be gratefully received!

 

Cheers

 

James

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ctd during battles is normally because of the stress for the system. You can try this: backup your skyrim and skyrimprefs.ini and download these:

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51033/

Use the medium ones and make sure that you change in skyrimprefs the line to your used videocard.

 

Test if those inis make a difference.

 

Than download either the latest skse build (alpha something) or download ssme

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305/?

Make sure that this mod is running, its prob the most important one this year. The alpha skse has a similar build in function so its no big difference between those two.

 

Test again.

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Thanks!

 

Installed EWI; I don't know what ENB is, but assumed I didn't have it and filled out the files accordingly. Game crashed, and I noticed that when I tried to summon an Atronach and it didn't appear because I wasn't pointed at a valid bit of ground, I still lost magicka and the icon appeared.

 

Installed SKSE alpha 1-07-00 and still crashed I'm afraid.

 

Pondering starting from an earlier save and replaying a couple of days, but worried the same bug may happen

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