Jayw21 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 This just started today. GAme worked fine like a champ even with all the mods. I wanted to try Wyrebash out and see if it could help random ctds. Downloaded, watched some tutorials made a bashed patch. Game crashed not right after the beth logo, but right before the options to load game etc would normally pop up. Normally if something is wrong the crash is instant, this one was delayed by a few seconds it was really weird. Checked tes53dit it ran through the first two times, said finished there were no error messages. Still the CTD though, on teh third run through An error popped up referring to a vamprie lord re-texture for females. Deleted the broken mod rebuilt patch, rand tes5 edit. No problem. No error, no warrnings. Same problem delayed CTD after logo. So I assumed the only thing differant now was wyrebash. Uninstalled, removed all other files manually that the crap uninstaller didn't remove. No traces of Wyrebash. Ran loot, Ran boss, Ran tes5 edit. NO PROBLEMS! Ran skyrim, delayed crass after logo. Ran at wall full speed lowered head for maximum impact, cursed at laptop, cursed wyrebash ran skyrim crashed again. Started drawing on the walls...... Said f wyre bash a few times. IF it ain't broke don't fix it...... Well now its broke and i've lost my mind. What the hell did I do to my game. Running windows 8Intel R core TM i5 42000 cpu @ 1.60 ghz 2.30ghz8gb ram 7.89 usable64 bit operating system x64 based processorPen and TouchGraphics cardIntel HD Graphics Family And despite the s#*! card, the game ran like a champ with a bunch of graphic overhaul mods med settings. Like I don't know how this little laptop did it, but it did. Like a boss. It can even run some mmorpgs at high settings through wifi!!!, and not lag. So it's not my specs. SummaryDetailsFiltersThe LOOT Report requires Javascript to be enabled in order to function.Skyrim.esmCRC: C665FD56Update.esmCRC: 6C9DEE4C.Location, Delev, Invent, RelevUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espCRC: 23BBAC1CVersion: 2.0.7C.Acoustic, C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.ImageSpace, C.Light, C.Location, C.LTemplate, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, StatsDawnguard.esmCRC: 36E5BF37C.Location, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, SoundUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espCRC: 2F92E911Version: 2.0.7C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, StatsHearthFires.esmCRC: 33181BF4C.Location, Graphics, InventUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espCRC: 909C478EVersion: 2.0.7C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, Graphics, Invent, Names, SoundDragonborn.esmCRC: 1AEEF06C.Location, Graphics, Invent, NamesUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espCRC: 697829D7Version: 2.0.7C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, StatsApachiiHairMales.esmCRC: 60EC6077Version: 1.2hdtHighHeel.esmCRC: 95D50087ApachiiHair.esmCRC: 783F7167Version: 1.4ClimatesOfTamriel.esmCRC: 918881A7Version: 3.1ApachiiHairFemales.esmCRC: 49FFE3B5Version: 1.4RSkyrimChildren.esmCRC: 8405286FSkyMoMod.esmCRC: A9576551Delev, RelevAdditionalMusicProject.espCRC: 4E0F1E67Better Dynamic Snow.espCRC: 1A5860EBVersion: 2.4AdditionalMusicProjectReplacer.espCRC: 28F4FC6AMatterOfTime.espCRC: 512CD10CVersion: 2.00FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espCRC: EBD99340VioLens.espCRC: DCF80285Version: 1.11SkyUI.espCRC: 9330CAF7Version: 4.1Celtic Music in Skyrim 2.0.espCRC: EEE07FF4BloodmoonRising.espCRC: 27E534FCWerewolfPerksExpanded.espCRC: A65EDB5FBarenziahQuestMarkers.espCRC: 9B51E375DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.espCRC: 6747C29ANote: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for "bDoDepthOfField". Make sure it is set to 1.Character Creation Overhaul.espCRC: A15636A6CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.espCRC: 95609FCFCCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.espCRC: 11A2B7FDAzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.espCRC: 123E00E9dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espCRC: 910FBBF3Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espCRC: 9229A0B4LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.espCRC: A1D76ED0Version: 1.4CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.espCRC: E691A93Convenient Horses.espCRC: A2C92D5CVersion: 14950Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.dD - Enhanced Blood Main.espCRC: 674C05BCNote: Requires: Skyrim Monster Mod_Compatibility Patch \\ Dawnguard + Dragonborn + Monster Mod.dD-Larger Splatter Size.espCRC: 6C2D97C4GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.espCRC: 60A8D52CdD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.espCRC: FB51E4FCChesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.espCRC: 3A253C5DHeadtracking.espCRC: 2856EB9FHelmetToggle2.02b.espCRC: 2ED2B609Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.espCRC: 7409094BRSChildren - Complete.espCRC: 23B038FERSChildren_PatchUSKP.espCRC: 509B3972FreckleMania.espCRC: F8A9E042Werewolf Loot- Dawnguard version.espCRC: 24F07AAELeftHandRings.espCRC: D4E274C6Version: 1.4iHUD.espCRC: 6098B756rrhair3.espCRC: E759C6FRaceMenu.espCRC: 2765B7D0Purewaters.espCRC: B60AD0B3Version: 5.0RaceMenuPlugin.espCRC: 8A8A009FNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espCRC: D5D8C715Version: 5.0Delev, Names, Relev, StatsSkyRe_Main.espCRC: 37F846FDDelev, RelevNote: Requires: Skyrim -Community- Uncapper for full perk functionality.Note: If lockpicking is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'.Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.Note: To make aiming easier add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:Note: [Actor]Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000Note: [Combat]Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0SkyRe_EnemyScaling.espCRC: 65F8F450RelevNPC_Overhaul_V_1_.espCRC: E275888DDragon Combat Overhaul.espCRC: 2221F018SoS - The Wilds.espCRC: C1743294Version: 1.13Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.Warning: Contains 8 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.SkyRe Quality Leather Armour Immersive Armours Addon.espCRC: EDFD1CC2MeridaHair.espCRC: 8B96B156OBIS.espCRC: 9D66686EDelev, RelevOBISDB.espCRC: F6A876B9Delev, RelevOBISDB-FaceMasksFix.espCRC: 8873CEBCivil War Overhaul.espCRC: 8A25BC5CMore Salt Please - USKP Compatibility.espCRC: A5F8964AskyforgedShields.espCRC: 80B46900skyforgedWeapons.espCRC: B5270FE2SkyMoMod Lore-Friendly Purist No Dragons.espCRC: 618956DDDelevNote: Use only one SkyMoMod Lore esp.Note: Requires: SkyMoMod 10SoS - The Dungeons.espCRC: 79377267Version: 1.23Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.RBB Long Boats.espCRC: CF8DD0B8ArcheryDummyXP.espCRC: D903EA41Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espCRC: 2A9F7DEDVersion: 7.1[object Object], [object Object]EMCompViljaSkyrim.espCRC: 3D45FE02Dread Knight Weapon Set.espCRC: DEA1B5BFLightBladesArmor.espCRC: C3204617Inconsequential NPCs.espCRC: E8A4F39CSkyforgeUpgraded.espCRC: 93E0CC47SFO - Dragonborn.espCRC: C9DB0844SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.espCRC: 809A34DANote: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds and CoT patch.ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.espCRC: 75A1B6EAVersion: 3.1SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.espCRC: 53090D51Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds and CoT patch.SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSoundsWinterEdition.espCRC: 2C578A64Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds and CoT patch.SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTWinterEdition.espCRC: 44529D04Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds and CoT patch.Supreme Storms - Cot Version.espCRC: 8E73F4A8Tembtra Thief Armor.espCRC: CFDAC27FUFO - Dawnguard AddOn.espCRC: A7A56D2Warning: Contains 18 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.espCRC: 819B9DE8UnreadBooksGlow.espCRC: CAAC2A07Version: 2.2.0Victoria Velina Revamped.espCRC: 43E331F4Cloaks - Dawnguard.espCRC: 56988D38Inigo.espCRC: 4321049DCloaks.espCRC: D8F94C02Warning: Contains 2 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.1nivWICCloaks.espCRC: 6B6B803AVersion: 2.3RelevRun For Your Lives.espCRC: B7BAFE68Version: 2.0.31nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.espCRC: 3BA25C1CVersion: 2.3Delev, RelevUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.espCRC: 396AE69FVersion: 1.2iNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.Warning: Contains 18 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.UFO - Heartfire AddOn.espCRC: 47AA94AWarning: Contains 29 ITM records and 18 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.Bijin Warmaidens.espCRC: 221D2EADVersion: 2.8Delphine Makeover.espCRC: ED0A5060Brothers.espCRC: 372052E2LC_immersiveLoot.espCRC: C67CCB24CWINPCApachiiSkyHair.espCRC: 8D0DC0BFRBB Large Boats.espCRC: DCB31D1DRBB Row Boats.espCRC: ACDF20BCerwidenCompanion.espCRC: FEB5909CWIDawnDragonPatch.espCRC: 7A31B350GDZZJJDH.espCRC: 6BD72AC2CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.espCRC: 9CB120EEWarning: Contains 24 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.AdditionalNPCFollwerVoices.espCRC: 71CC9CFACerwidenAppearancePatch.espCRC: 633F53CASkyrim Flora Overhaul.espCRC: 4FBD93DSkyRe_StandingStones.espCRC: 196309D3SkyRe_Races.espCRC: D6CF6BEESkyRe_EnemyAI.espCRC: 3F9BD9DCompanionArissa.espCRC: 743C82B3DSpSoB.espCRC: 8FAD1B41Note: Make sure you use Dawnguard version.Brevi_MoonlightTales.espCRC: 1FFEAB36Gildergreen Regrown.espCRC: 5111AD5FVersion: 1.2.6Avatar of Baltazar.espCRC: 1233BBAFWarning: Contains 6 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.LustmordVampireArmor.espCRC: FC9B212ASkyrim Realistic Archery.espCRC: 30F941B1Duel - Combat Realism.espCRC: 936E329BWarning: Contains 7 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.Unique Uniques.espCRC: 51024687Version: 1.8GraphicsInsanity's Dragonbane.espCRC: 2F7ACF4DVersion: 1.0vImmersiveBeds.espCRC: 1162FF74Version: 1.01WestWindMisfit.espCRC: 279910DDTheEyesOfBeauty.espCRC: F84DC756Version: 9Warning: Contains 2 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.WetandCold.espCRC: BEAB0A2FVersion: 1.422Pre ReProccer WAFR IA7 Patch.espCRC: 668E5211ReProccer.espCRC: 73F851F3Post ReProccer Fixes IA7 Patch.espCRC: 28ECEDB4 Version Information LOOT Version 0.6.0 Masterlist Updating Enabled Masterlist Revision 3cd459a2d Masterlist Date 2014-11-18 Plugin & Message Counts Active Plugins 130 Dirty Plugins 9 Total Plugins 134 Warnings 9 Errors 0 Total Messages 38 General MessagesNote: There have been no changes in the Details tab since LOOT was last run for this game.Note: Latest LOOT thread.Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.Hide Version NumbersHide CRCsHide Bash Tag SuggestionsHide NotesHide 'Do Not Clean' MessagesHide Inactive Plugin MessagesHide All Plugin MessagesHide Messageless PluginsPlugins hidden: 0 / 134Messages hidden: 0 / 38 Okay So here we are, wtf do I do now. I've ran all the programs I've tried everything I feel like wyrebash f'ed everything up and no it's unplayable? Do I need Wyrebash again? Did it change something that can't be undone with a simple uninstall? Do I need to really uninstall everything again? If someone says my saved game is scraped, this has already happened once where I lost a saved game. Tell me that and I'll find you. There has to be a way to fix this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayw21 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Self Testing update: Disabled All plugins via (not uninstalled)Going to go through manually and test each one to see which one is causing the crash. I will post finding here as I go. In case anyone else reads this with the same problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayw21 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Unfricken believable.............. The mod that was causing the crash was more salt please..... Figured it out.... going to try wyrebash again. It obviously wans't he problem. Jesus christ. Days like this modding isn't worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayw21 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Okay Final update: Problem is resolved I manged it by myself Problem: Loot, TES5Edit, and Boss do not always detect a problem. Sometimes you have to go through and do things the hard way.... 4 hours later. Anyway The culprit was JUST More Salts please... What a mind blower. All the huge overhauls I have and the one thing SKSE trips over is a few extra salts for venders. Mind blowing. At any rate problem solved, experimentation documented. If you goggled this and had a similar problem: Disable all plugins VIA NNM and manually go through each plug through until you find one that crashes the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saurusmaximus Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Welcome to the wonderful world of Load Order Troubleshooting! I feel your pain, man :pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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