I Recommend this Mod

[Shadeybladey]

I just wanted to recommend this mod as I find it truly incredible that it does not have 500,000 unique downloads and 50,000 endorsements.

 

It really is "The Way Vanilla Should Have Been".

 

It is not only more sensible, it is more realistic for a magick-using world, it makes the game smoother, quicker and less immersion breaking.

 

A True G.E.M.

 

Mystara's Transmute Overhaul

 

 

You find two spell tomes at Halted Stream camp - one to turn iron ore to silver and another to turn silver ore to gold.

 

The Vanilla spell does silver to gold as a priority over iron to silver, which is a pain if you want silver for amulets or whatever as you have to drop each piece of silver ore so that the Vanilla spell will use Iron ore instead of turning the silver into gold.

 

I used to drop silver ore in a chest at Breezehome and it was SO slow and tedious. So I get to Halted Stream Camp as soon as I am strong enough and get the tomes. I sell the Vanilla one, so I just have Transmute Iron to Silver and Transmute Silver to Gold in my spell menu.

 

Highly Recommended.

 

This mod was not made by me and I do not know the author, I am just amazed it is not more widely used.

 

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[ferdie33]

I personally like the Transmute Iron Ore First mod, if you pick version 3 all ore of the lowest quality is transmuted in one casting and you get all the experience. Huge time saver!

 

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/11025//?

[Shadeybladey]

Ah yes, I came across that one yesterday when I searched. It is much more popular and has those extra "cheaty" elements.

 

I've been using Mystara's one for about 18 months and some friends only just started using it, which prompted me to wonder why they hadn't come across a Transmute Ore mod before.

 

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[Urtel]

Transmuting is a cheat. Its more an ingame joke. Because you can hear npcs complaining about wizards, and how they make gold out of rubbish.

Who the hell needs mines, if there is a spell?
So i don't recommend this mod))) Just kidding. If you not mind OP items and stuff, this might be very useful.

[Shadeybladey]

But where would you get the iron ore to start with?

[Urtel]

I was expecting this. We have not only iron mines but all kinds of mines in Skyrim.

If you can make silver out of iron, then why Silverblood has profit?) Darwater mine has tonnes of iron, they hire one wizard, and thats it. Monopoly on silver/gold.

No sence. Just another mistake in game economics. There is no ecomocs at all, actually. We need like constant amount of gold for npc's all over skyrim + treasures.

Actually, it would be much more fun if they added philosophers stone.

[Shadeybladey]

Because there are vey few Mages in Skyrim, Nords don't much like magick, the Transmute spell is available only in a single place, not available for general purchase anywhere and Mages are not interested in being employed to constantly turn Iron into Gold?

 

Skyrim Mages just do not know this spell. So it is not possible to set up an operation as you outline.

 

Mages are like Calcemo - they are far more interested in esoteric knowledge and arcane power. Although it does look like the bandits at Halted Stream Camp had a plan, such as you outline, before the Dovahkiin got there, killed them all and liberated their spell books and iron ore. Looks like they were waiting to recruit a mage, but it seems that plan has been scuppered, and the Dovahkiin now has the only surviving copy of this ancient spell tome.

 

 

But you are right that the economics of Skyrim are all screwy. And there's no conservation of mass-energy when turning a mass of metal into a weapon or piece of armour. Sometimes they weigh far more or less than they should and the mass of ingots of the same type translate into massive, illogical variations in mass when forged into weapons and armour.

 

But I suppose it's only a game?

 

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[Urtel]

Right... the only place where you can find it. And this place is just in the novice location. How convenient. And you even get the bounty to go there. Is that me, or it sounds cheaty?))) Just babbling.. The game issues are smth we all are here for. To find them, fix them and enjoy our own game.

[Shadeybladey]

You don't need to use the spell if you don't like it.

 

I have heard about a quest bounty, but I've never come across it. I just found the mine the first time by exploring the wilderness and every other character I've made goes there because I meta-game as much as anyone else.

 

I have always thought there SHOULD be a quest to secure the mine for Jarl Balgruuff and that the place should be populated with Whiterun guards after you clear it out - but it seems I always miss that quest. You can see the camp from the Dragonsreach balcony.

 

I also have a mod for making silver and mithril weapons, so it's much more convenient to be able to turn iron to silver without the silver turning to gold.

 

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[Urtel]

Thats a simple radiant kill-dat-badass-bandit-leader-for-100gold quest, so there is nothing special. Also, there is a bunch of bandits in the cave whiterun, and they feel pretty safe))