Loading Issues

[Paperblade]

Hey party people :dance: ,

 

I know there are threads concerning the same problem as well, but I have tried all the solutions mentioned there already but still am unable to play this game.

 

I have encountered the following gameplay killing issues:

 

1. I cant load any exterior-cell hard saves without being caught in a endless loading screen :facepalm: .

 

2. Upon exiting interiors ("Four Shields Tavern" for example) causes the loading screen to occasionally freeze :wallbash: .

 

3. Entering Combat freezes the game, not always, but often enough :down: .

 

About my installed mods:

 

Im having about 180 mods running, most are just retextures (no enhancements, just recoloring) or other stuff like immersive weapons, -armors, -monsters, -patrols. The only major enhancement I have currently installed is "StaticMesh Improvement" but my PC is beefy enough to cope with that, at least it should be able to since the "4GB Ram Mod" is also on (64Bit=Check!)

 

What I have tried already is to start a new game (did that about three times already, so the joy of playing this game is about fade), uninstalling mods that swallow alot of FPS, the "4GB Patch", reinstalling the game. Nothing seems to help for ever. :armscrossed:

 

I would be happy if anyone could help me with this! :thumbsup:

 

 

[Georgiegril]

Please copy/paste your BOSS log (open BOSS GUI, chose to have the log render in text format.) Enclose in spoiler tags, which you can find in the pull-down menu of the third icon to the left on the top toolbar.

List mods that BOSS doesn't sort (like texture mods without .esps) and utilities you use (like any texture optimizers, skse, etc.)

If you haven't used BOSS or cleaned your flagged mods/DLCs with TES5Edit, do that first.

 

The 4 GB patch is obsolete. However, since your problem could be related to resources, please get and use the Skyrim Performance Monitor, and post those results. (Like BOSS this is a separate program, not a mod.)

 

Finally, if you have made any changes to your skyrim.ini or skyrim prefs.ini, please post those as well (also enclosed in spoilers.)

[Paperblade]

Sorry might have got you wrong there, but I am not using BOSS and what do you mean by cleaning flagged mods/DLCs?

[Georgiegril]

If you haven't used BOSS or cleaned your flagged mods/DLCs with TES5Edit, do that first.

Get BOSS. The installer version is the easiest to use. Here is a video tutorial by Gopher on how to use it; though the installation part is not needed if you choose the installer version.Use it. Read the log it generates. In the log, you will see messages about TES5Edit cleaning, and there will be a link that will take you to TES5Edit and tutorials on how to use it. You can also get Gopher's TESEdit video tutorial here.

[Paperblade]

Okay, so far I have downloaded BOSS, TESEdit (and cleaned the files just like 'Gopher' did, plus Dragonborn), I am yet having to figure out how the 'Skyrim Performance Monitor' works.

 

My BOSS Log (sorry for it not being hidden, I could not quite follow your instructions)

 

BOSS

Version 2.2.0

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Summary

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Plugin Type Count

Recognised (or sorted by user rules) 165

Unrecognised 35

Inactive 23

All 200

Plugin Message Type Count

Warning 3

Error 0

All 51

* Masterlist updated; at revision: d6b84cf89.

* No change in recognised plugin list since last run.

* Note: Latest BOSS thread ("http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1496999-relz-boss-for-skyrim/")

* Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.

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SKSE Plugins

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SKSE Version: 0.1.6.16

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Recognised Plugins

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These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Dawnguard.esm Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

HearthFires.esm Active

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 Active

Dragonborn.esm Active

* Contains dirty edits: 61 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

Falskaar.esm Version 1.1.2 Active

Wyrmstooth.esp Version 1.10 Active

ApachiiHair.esm Version 1.4 Active

RaceCompatibility.esm Active

AP Skyrim.esm Active

LB_MuchAdoSnowElves.esm Active

MFVM.esm Active

moonpath.esm Active

* Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

The_Dwemer_and_Falmer.esm Active

[Georgiegril]

please post the entirety of your BOSS log in text file format, and enclose in spoiler tags.

Look on the top toolbar. The third icon to the left is a squarish thing. IF you click that it will bring up a pulldown menu where you sill find the spoilers tag. Highlight all of the BOSS log text, once you add it to the post. They select "spoilers"

 

BEfore doing that you need to finish cleaning your Dlcs and the mods that need it.

You also need to properly hand place the unrecognized mods.

You have a large number of inactive mods. Deactivating mods does not remove their effects, particularly if they have scripts. This could be your problem.

However, it could also be a memory issue, so keep working on that, and also post your skyrim.ini and prefs.ini.

[Paperblade]

Would it help to just reinstall the game, clean every DLC/Mod and just not istall all the jack that I dont really need? Im having the feeling that this would be faster and would spare you and me the trouble. Especially since I'm only good for playing a game not fixing it.

 

Never thought playing Skyrim would be that much of a pain.

[Georgiegril]

I agree that starting over is probably the fastest solution, if you take the time to set it up carefully.

The below may help you do that.

 

1. Go to STEP and follow the directions to revert to vanilla skyrim.

2. Start a new game, do not attempt to apply an old save, it will not work and may reintroduce corruption back into your now clean game.

3. Do not make any changes at all until you exit Helgen (the other option is to start with an alternate start mod to avoid the Helgen sequence.)

4, Before making any changes, read everything available on the subject. If it is a mod, read every last word of the readme, description, discussion thread, everything. If it is an ini change, google it, visit a few reputable sources and determine if it is worth trying. Just because one guy puts up a list of his ini changes and swears buy it does not mean it will work for you, and it might even make things worse. When considering any change, mod, .ini file, setting, whatever, consider it in light of your own system hardware and software and the other mods/changes you intend to make. Investigate any possible conflicts before adding it.

5. When you are ready to make any changes (mods, ini settings, anything) attempt only 1 or two at a time. If it's a mod, run BOSS. BOSS is a regular program, not a mod. There is a useful vid for BOSS, here. Set it up to generate the log in .txt format, not html. Read the log and address any messages. In any case, play a bit to test for stability, performance, and compatibility. Make sure to properly place the unrecognized mods as instructed by the mod author, or use TES5Edit or WryeBAsh, or if all else fails, place it with similar mods that are recognized, though that is more trial and error. Also, a number of excellent mods require you use skse. You can find it here. It now has an automatic installer. on that page, you will see there is a link to a readme, which you should read for help understanding the program. There is also another gopher vid to help you set it up, here.

6. If you notice any negative effect of your change (not just crashes, but performance loss, glitches, anything), Stop. Do not attempt to keep playing and definitely do not add any new variables into your system. Investigate the possible causes. If it is a mod and you want to try to remove it, then remove it, but be sure to follow the author's removal instructions exactly. To be safe, go back to the save from just before you added it. (This is easy of you are slowly adding mods, but extremely painful if you add everything at once, play a bunch and have no idea where the problem lies. ) This will also help you avoid with script problems from removed mods that will continue and may get worse.

7. If you get stuck, post a detailed question before you get frustrated. Detailed means t include your BOSS log, noting how you placed unrecognized mods, other supporting programs you have used (like TES5Edit, skse, Any texture optimizers, enbs, etc.) Also provide your computer specs, any changes to your driver profile and/or skyrim ini files. Finally, provide details about the crash--how long you've had it, what changed before you first noticed it, any patterns like time playing, specific areas or activities like opening a menu or such. Explain what you have already tried to fix the problem and what the results were.

8. Once you get your mods and other changes the way you want them, your game is stable and performing well, then stop. Every time you add or change any variable, you are inviting instability. If a new mod shows up and you think you just have to have it, ask yourself if it is worth having to start all over for--because, you may have to. If the answer is yes, then go ahead and try it and if your game crashes, well, you were willing to take the risk.

Recommendations for maintaining a trouble free game:

1. I personally suggest avoiding the Steam workshop for mods, because it will automatically update and sometimes even remove mods in your list, which can cause your game to die. Also, playing with Steam in offline mode will prevent unexpected updates from causing havoc.

2. Disable auto updates and avoid using quicksave, as these increase the chance of savegame corruption. Also, if your save does become corrupt, you will need to go back to your last working full save, which can be extremely painful if you rarely make them. You can do this by going into your Prefs.ini text file and then making sure the following lines look like this:
[Main]
bSaveOnPause=0
bSaveOnTravel=0
bSaveOnWait=0
bSaveOnRest=0

[saveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=0.0000

For people who want the convenience of auto save with the functionality of a full save, there are a few mods you might check out, such as Ishara's Normal Numbered AutoSaves

 

[Paperblade]

Thank you for the effort! Its much appreciated!

[Blooberific]

I have a problem with skyrim. I load up with skse loader, goes to the menu and a windows loading icon shows up with cursor for skyrim. I have skse.ini in the proper place and I have checked to see if I'm updated. I have no mods installed, I deleted everything. here is my boss log.

 

 

• Skyrim.esm Active
• Update.esm Active
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  • Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
• Dawnguard.esm Active
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• HearthFires.esm Active
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