Serious crashing problem.

[Raiden60]

So this has been happening since yesterday. I went into Caranthir Tower dormitory (CTR) with Serana because of fatigue from the iNeed mod. As soon as I loaded in, I crashed. I then loaded in again and after about a minute, crash. I'm about to zero the papyrus section of the file to verify that it is not a script problem, but I don't think it is because last scripts mentioned do have any rhyme or reason. Apart from the equipping overhaul one, but either way the time isn't even close to the crash.

Here is my load order(146 mods):

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 ApachiiHair.esm

7 7 Campfire.esm

8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

9 9 hdtHighHeel.esm

10 a JSwords.esm

11 b ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

12 c ApachiiHairMales.esm

13 d ApachiiHairFemales.esm

14 e SkyUI.esp

15 f iHUD.esp

16 10 XPMSE.esp

17 11 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp

18 12 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp

19 13 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

20 14 ETaC - Complete.esp

21 15 NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp

22 16 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

23 17 Realistic Lighting.esp

24 18 Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp

25 19 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp

26 1a ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

27 1b WetandCold.esp

28 1c Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp

29 1d Clanking Armor.esp

30 1e AchieveThat.esp

31 1f KS Hairdo's.esp

32 20 OBIS.esp

33 21 Immersive Whiterun.esp

34 22 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

35 23 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

36 24 lightweight potions and poisons.esp

37 25 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

38 26 Immersive Solstheim.esp

39 27 Killable Children.esp

40 28 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

41 29 Dr_Bandolier.esp

42 2a FNIS.esp

43 2b RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

44 2c Dual Sheath Redux.esp

45 2d RaceMenu.esp

46 2e RaceMenuPlugin.esp

47 2f HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp

48 30 Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0 non glow.esp

49 31 barenziahquestmarkers.esp

50 32 N7 Metroid Armor.esp

51 33 Convenient Horses.esp

52 34 OCR-Fixes.esp

53 35 BrawlSkip.esp

54 36 Breast Size Scaling for NPCs.esp

55 37 No NPC Greetings.esp

56 38 NoDisarm.esp

57 39 CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp

58 3a FNISSexyMove.esp

59 3b Bikini-MTM.esp

60 3c SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp

61 3d WeaponsOfTheShogunate.esp

62 3e LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp

63 3f chargenexport.esp

64 40 Differently Ebony.esp

65 41 Dark Ebony Valkyrie Armor.esp

66 42 WKBendTime.esp

67 43 Zipsuit.esp

68 44 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp

69 45 FNIS_PCEA2.esp

70 46 Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp

71 47 Remodeled Armor.esp

72 48 Ballet Boots.esp

73 49 PlayRandomIdle.esp

74 4a UIExtensions.esp

75 4b AddItemMenu2.esp

76 4c LeftHandRings.esp

77 4d DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

78 4e ArshesNeiBikini.esp

79 4f NpcDeathAlertSLAE.esp

80 50 MainMenuReplacer.esp

81 51 VioLens.esp

82 52 Inconsequential NPCs.esp

83 53 Cloaks.esp

84 54 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

85 55 SMIM-Merged-NoDragonborn.esp

86 56 Shout-tastic_no CD.esp

87 57 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp

88 58 New Hand to Hand Skill by Budcat.esp

89 59 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

90 5a CaranthirTowerReborn.esp

91 5b Frostfall.esp

92 5c arodsinventorycontrol.esp

93 5d Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp

94 5e Midas Magic Expanded.esp

95 5f dragonpriestmaskquestmarkers.esp

96 60 Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp

97 61 Sneak Tools.esp

98 62 TallonOverworld.esp

99 63 Ghosu - Project Flintlock.esp

100 64 iNeed.esp

101 65 FalkreathSkyscraper.esp

102 66 Phenderix's Magic Transcended.esp

103 67 My Home Is Your Home.esp

104 68 CinematicFireFX.esp

105 69 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp

106 6a Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

107 6b Shiny Catsuits.esp

108 6c Equipping Overhaul.esp

109 6d Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp

110 6e iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp

111 6f Commonwealth Shorts.esp

112 70 Extended Slider Colors.esp

113 71 Akhaziir.esp

114 72 HDT Capes.esp

115 73 TrissArmorRetextured.esp

116 74 GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp

117 75 Neo's Selene.esp

118 76 dovahkiinrelax.esp

119 77 AlmostEveryoneIsAnAdventurer.esp

120 78 UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp

121 79 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

122 7a imp_helm_legend.esp

123 7b Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

124 7c Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

125 7d Ghosu - Project Flintlock - Ammo Addon.esp

126 7e LostLongSwords.esp

127 7f wdUI.esp

128 80 Withe01_GunArtsRifle_AC.esp

129 81 arodalchemyanalyzer.esp

130 82 arodsinventorycontrol_dlc_db.esp

131 83 arodsinventorycontrol_dlc_dg.esp

132 84 arodsinventorycontrol_dlc_hf.esp

133 85 [ENG]No Weight for Ingots and Ores.esp

134 86 LayerBikini.esp

135 87 Osare Underwear.esp

136 88 vAutosaveManager.esp

137 89 Facelight.esp

138 8a Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

139 8b ReAnimate.esp

140 8c LWPlayerHeadTracking.esp

141 8d Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

142 8e AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Load order is sorted by LOOT, apart from AFT which is last due to apparent conflicts.

Speaking of conflicts, I apparently have a lot, according to TES5Edit.

The list goes on. I realise that this is most likely causing problems, but is there a faster way of patching this rather than the usual method? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olEbW1Eqbus this is what I thought the usual method is)

 

Also, some of my plugins are orange in Wrye Bash. Is this an actual problem? I did run the bashed patch but there was no change.

 

Furthermore, I have checked memory block, all normal(512/256). The log doesn't end at the block size. I've even increased skse.ini memory allocation above normal(1024/512) to see if that would fix the problem. Instead, it just crashes on the splash.

 

I've also enabled diagnostics in skse.ini, although I'm not sure how to access that. Can anyone tell me how to access it?

 

Also, I've tried starting a new game, but, uh... the results were messy. There was a lot of neighing, we were all levitating, and I think the headsman was watching us from the hill. Weird. Oh, and that reminds me, I do have ENB and the FPS is locked at 60. I know some weird s*** can happen at high frame rates. But I checked. The game didn't actually crash, perhaps I should wait until the travel is finished. Or even better, load an older save. I don't know why that has never occured to me. BUT. Quite obvious that there is still a problem. I recently fixed (Well worked around) a saving problem. It would take a long time to autosave, but not to manual save. That's what Autosave Manager is for.

 

Anyway, I'll wipe the Papyrus section now, and then when it crashes I'll load an older save.

 

Oh, and also I installed Skyrim Performance Monitor, no useful data, I think. I'll attach my most useful papyrus log, the rest are too short to be useful. But like I say, the problem probably isn't scripts. I'll also include the enblocal.ini and enbseries.ini as well as skse.ini, skyrim.ini and the memory blocks log.

Edited August 28, 2016 by Raiden60

[Darkstyler35]

Hello,

• CTD in a particular cell / location.
• Preferably, use crash fixes with the UseOSAllocators=1 instead of skse memory patch or SSME.
• Make sure you're using the good mods >> Dangerous mods list.
• Verify gamecache.
• CTDs troubleshooting page on Reddit, depending on what's happening in game, choose the subsections that describes the best your problem.

Here is a list of things that may help stabilizing your game if not already been done. :

/// Cleaning and correcting potential bugs :

• Clean your master files to eliminate potential problems : Tes5edit cleaning tutorial / Tes5edit documentation / Tes5edit Nexus page.
• The method above can be used to clean mods. LOOT may tell you which plugin you should clean.
• Mator's video fixing errors with Tes5edit. Merge plugins.

/// Load order / mods conflicts :

• Use L.O.O.T / Nexus page (& documentation).
• Create a wryebash patch including leveled lists.
• Create a merged patch with Tesedit excluding leveled lists
• How things work in Tes5edit : load order / conflict looser - winner / Forwarding / adding as a master. More specifically, you may create a manual patch between two or more mods.

/// Settings / memory :

• You may also install safety load if you experience infinite loading screens or freezing in game.
• Memory blocks log will help to refine memory settings.
• Skyrim performance monitor.
• Backup your ini files and delete the files. Skyrim.ini / SkyrimCustom.ini / SkyrimPrefs.ini found in C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim then use your vanilla launcher to autodetect and use best settings for your computer.
• STEP INI tweaking wiki.
• You may install ENBOOST >> ENB graphics / ENB haxx.

/// Save game :

• Don't uninstall mods at mid-game, there are no clean save in Skyrim but using save script cleaner can help removing orphan scripts.
• New SkyrimTools, (corrupt saves topic).

/// Meshes healer :

• Read here, this is potentially a cause of CTD that you can resolve by following the mod procedure on this page.

/// Useful informations :

• Selective loading : untick 50% of your mods, beginning by the end of your load order and test in game. Then depending on if the problem occurs again or not, increase /decrease the remaining loading mods to find the culprit.
• If you're using win8-10 + a GPU with more than 4GB VRAM and experiencing stuttering, random freezes or / and FPS drops, this may occur when the VRAM usage exceeds 4GB, read here for more details.
• In NMM settings, see where your tracelog path is (C:\Users\User\Documents\Nexus Mod Manager), open a request in the NMM open beta forum and post your tracelog.txt.

• Make sure your framerate isn't going above 60 - use a fps limiter or the ENB limiter included feature or using your graphic card utility if you experience problems with the ENB limiter.

• Skyrim requirements wiki | STEP troubleshooting page | Crashdump analysis | Direct-x 9 C, 9 C update |
• Skse installation : skse on steam or Manual install. (SKSE, memory and skse.ini). SKSE logs are here : C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE. SKSE troubleshooting guide.
• An efficient guide to build your game : STEP / Official S.T.E.P. Mod Organizer video series.
• Ensure your skyrim installation is healthy = Make skyrim vanilla again.
• Make sure you're using the latest USLEEP instead of the obsolete unofficial patches. If some of your old mods require them, you may use the USLEEP swap masters.
• Papyrus log is a scripts log only and doesn't cover anything else, not a crash log. Interpreting Papyrus Log Errors / Enabling papyrus logging
• Need to know informations about your harware, temperature, etc... ? Speccy may help you.
• Shut down background programs such as intellipoint, fan manager, etc... Need a tool to manage GPU fan speed that works with ENB ? You may try Afterburner, (tested)

/// Credits : these persons deserve kudos, (among others) without them there would be nothing above.

 

Thallassa | Matortheeternal | Arthmoor | BorisVorontsof | GamerPoets | Gopher | TheCompiler (+ all the STEP team) | Luco81 (NMM forum) | Tannin42 | I2edShift | ElminsterAU, Sharlikran, Zilav, Hlp | Meh321 | Kapaer | Sheson | Mnelson999 | Hadoram | markdf |/ Anton0028 | Wrinklyninja (L.O.O.T contributors) | Bcsp |

Hope this helps.

[Raiden60]

Hello,

• CTD in a particular cell / location.
• Preferably, use crash fixes with the UseOSAllocators=1 instead of skse memory patch or SSME.
• Make sure you're using the good mods >> Dangerous mods list.
• Verify gamecache.
• CTDs troubleshooting page on Reddit, depending on what's happening in game, choose the subsections that describes the best your problem.

Here is a list of things that may help stabilizing your game if not already been done. :

 

/// Cleaning and correcting potential bugs :

• Clean your master files to eliminate potential problems : Tes5edit cleaning tutorial / Tes5edit documentation / Tes5edit Nexus page.
• The method above can be used to clean mods. LOOT may tell you which plugin you should clean.
• Mator's video fixing errors with Tes5edit. Merge plugins.

/// Load order / mods conflicts :

• Use L.O.O.T / Nexus page (& documentation).
• Create a wryebash patch including leveled lists.
• Create a merged patch with Tesedit excluding leveled lists
• How things work in Tes5edit : load order / conflict looser - winner / Forwarding / adding as a master. More specifically, you may create a manual patch between two or more mods.

/// Settings / memory :

• You may also install safety load if you experience infinite loading screens or freezing in game.
• Memory blocks log will help to refine memory settings.
• Skyrim performance monitor.
• Backup your ini files and delete the files. Skyrim.ini / SkyrimCustom.ini / SkyrimPrefs.ini found in C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim then use your vanilla launcher to autodetect and use best settings for your computer.
• STEP INI tweaking wiki.
• You may install ENBOOST >> ENB graphics / ENB haxx.

/// Save game :

• Don't uninstall mods at mid-game, there are no clean save in Skyrim but using save script cleaner can help removing orphan scripts.
• New SkyrimTools, (corrupt saves topic).

/// Meshes healer :

• Read here, this is potentially a cause of CTD that you can resolve by following the mod procedure on this page.

/// Useful informations :

• Selective loading : untick 50% of your mods, beginning by the end of your load order and test in game. Then depending on if the problem occurs again or not, increase /decrease the remaining loading mods to find the culprit.
• If you're using win8-10 + a GPU with more than 4GB VRAM and experiencing stuttering, random freezes or / and FPS drops, this may occur when the VRAM usage exceeds 4GB, read here for more details.
• In NMM settings, see where your tracelog path is (C:\Users\User\Documents\Nexus Mod Manager), open a request in the NMM open beta forum and post your tracelog.txt.

• Make sure your framerate isn't going above 60 - use a fps limiter or the ENB limiter included feature or using your graphic card utility if you experience problems with the ENB limiter.

• Skyrim requirements wiki | STEP troubleshooting page | Crashdump analysis | Direct-x 9 C, 9 C update |
• Skse installation : skse on steam or Manual install. (SKSE, memory and skse.ini). SKSE logs are here : C:\Users\User\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE. SKSE troubleshooting guide.
• An efficient guide to build your game : STEP / Official S.T.E.P. Mod Organizer video series.
• Ensure your skyrim installation is healthy = Make skyrim vanilla again.
• Make sure you're using the latest USLEEP instead of the obsolete unofficial patches. If some of your old mods require them, you may use the USLEEP swap masters.
• Papyrus log is a scripts log only and doesn't cover anything else, not a crash log. Interpreting Papyrus Log Errors / Enabling papyrus logging
• Need to know informations about your harware, temperature, etc... ? Speccy may help you.
• Shut down background programs such as intellipoint, fan manager, etc... Need a tool to manage GPU fan speed that works with ENB ? You may try Afterburner, (tested)

/// Credits : these persons deserve kudos, (among others) without them there would be nothing above.

 

Thallassa | Matortheeternal | Arthmoor | BorisVorontsof | GamerPoets | Gopher | TheCompiler (+ all the STEP team) | Luco81 (NMM forum) | Tannin42 | I2edShift | ElminsterAU, Sharlikran, Zilav, Hlp | Meh321 | Kapaer | Sheson | Mnelson999 | Hadoram | markdf |/ Anton0028 | Wrinklyninja (L.O.O.T contributors) | Bcsp |

Hope this helps.

Thanks. After a little experimentation, it seems it's only the Caranthir Tower dorm where this particular crash occurs. My suspicion is that there is something absent that I need to build, so I'll try that, and if that doesn't work, I will check the CTD in cell link.