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seems one of my mod causes bugs and crashes in my game. could it be because incorrect load order or mod incompatibility? how can I know right one? please, I need help.

 

also, apologies if similar topic was posted here already.


Edited by roisee, 16 October 2018 - 07:48 PM.


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To check for conflicts you can boot up in TES5edit and scan the mods for conflicts.  It should show any mods that write over a particular quest/object/npc/location/etc.  Any conflicts should be pretty obvious.  (Though in my experience not all conflicts are necessarily bad.  Plenty of things are reported as conflicts but aren't really).  But for the most part I try to minimize mods conflicting with each other regardless.  Anyway, TES5edit should help with conflicts.

 

Now if you use LOOT or another load order sorting program, that should help mostly with load order but they aren't perfect.  Sometimes you may need to manually sort a mod or two for best results (and change the metadata of the mod sorter so it knows to automatically sort that mod your way from then on).  A bit of trial and error.  Or you can post your LOAD order and let an expert look at it.  I was however, given some very good general load order advice which I will supply below.  If a particular mod needs a particular load order it will generally say so either on the mod page or in a read me that comes with the file.

 

 

General Load Order as recommended to me:

You want to install the basic tools first (fnis, skse, TES5edit and so forth)

The game

The DLCs

Large mods here (any sort of overhaul or mod that adds a ton of scripts and other things such as the Unofficial Patch) note: install them as instructed including the required mods.

Body and pose type mods should be next

Texture mods next

Armor and weapons and any other remaining mods go here.

 

Following that general pattern has given me a great deal of stability.  That said, some mods such as Sacrosanct have, at least for me, required a bit of special attention due to other mods I use.

 

 

In addition, if you aren't using ENB it might be worth looking into.  The newer ENBs come with something called ENBoost which helps fix certain memory leaks.  In vanilla game play these memory leaks are harmless but once you start modding they can cause frequent CTD and infinite load crashes.  The problem tends to worsen as you install more mods.  (I'm no expert so that's about as good as my explanation on that can get).  In short ENB can greatly reduce crashes even if you don't make use of its graphical features.  Just remember to limit your frame rate (likely below 60 fps) when you install it.  Skyrim's physics are tied to the fps so if the fps is high things randomly fly around.  It's weird.

 

Finally, most people tend to recommend a 255 mod limit.  Too many mods can make a game really unstable.  I'm told some mods can be merged allowing you to keep them while lowering that number (Like combining all weapon and armor mods into a single mod where applicable).  I've never had to do that though as I keep in the 70-100 range so I can't tell you how to know which mods you can and cannot merge (nor how to do it) but there are plenty of tutorials and tools available through this website.  Some nice video tutorials on youtube if you need the step by step.

 

In short, sticking to the general load order, TES5edit, and ENB can greatly reduce crashes.  I think there will always be some, but for me it has become the rarity not the norm.  No worse off than than the vanilla game for me now (which also crashed so...)  Hope this helps.  And if anyone thinks I'm wrong about something, please correct me.  I'm still learning this stuff a bit too.



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any way anyone can tell me if my load order is wrong or if files are not compatible together. i get random crashes when performing certain acts.

 

 

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     SkyrimVR.esm
  6  6     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  7  7     SMSkyrim.esp
  8  8     FlowerGirls SE.esm
  9  9     RaceCompatibility.esm
 10  a     CreatureFramework.esm
 11  b     ApachiiHair.esm
 12  c     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 13  d     FlowerGirls SE - BDSM.esm
           hdtHighHeel.esm
 14  e     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 15  f     SexLab.esm
 16 10     SexLabAroused.esm
 17 11     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 18 12     SkyUI_SE.esp
 19 13     FNIS.esp
 20 14     Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
 21 15     WhiterunImmersiveSexualPlayground.esp
 22 16     SexLab More Creatures.esp
 23 17     TBOS.esp
 24 18     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 25 19     Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp
 26 1a     Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp
 27 1b     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 28 1c     ModWhiterun.esp
 29 1d     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
 30 1e     SexLab_Solutions.esp
 31 1f     SLAnimLoader.esp
 32 20     SOS - Grower - Extended.esp
 33 21     SOS_Ho.esp
 34 22     SexLabMatchMaker.esp
 35 23     UIExtensions.esp
 36 24     SexLab Beastess.esp
 37 25     SuccubusRaceLite.esp
 38 26     Lucretia.esp
 39 27     SexLabDefeat.esp
 40 28     HentaiCreatures.esp
 41 29     Better Vampires.esp
 42 2a     SexLab Enchantress.esp
 43 2b     SLALAnimObj.esp
 44 2c     InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
 45 2d     Jinxxed Followers - Lockpick.esp
 46 2e     SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
 47 2f     SofiaFollower.esp
 48 30     SassyGirls.esp
 49 31     SOS - Shop.esp
 50 32     FNISspells.esp
 51 33     HornyCreatures.esp
 52 34     Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
 53 35     SpousesEnhancedSE.esp
 54 36     Vampirelordroyal.esp
 55 37     SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
 56 38     zRitual.esp
 57 39     BVandRoyalBloodline_Patch.esp
 58 3a     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
 59 3b     VL No AoE Drain.esp
 60 3c     Darklilith.esp
 61 3d     YeOlde - MCM Settings.esp
 62 3e     vrik.esp
 63 3f     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 64 40     XPMSE.esp
 65 41     CBBE.esp
 66 42     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 67 43     SGEyebrows.esp
 68 44     SLAdventures.esp
 69 45     SL_Hedonism.esp
 70 46     SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
 71 47     TDF Aroused Rape.esp
 72 48     MageMasterRing_1.0.esp
 73 49     RohZima_AnimObjects.esp
 74 4a     Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
 75 4b     Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp
 76 4c     Gold Spell.esp
 77 4d     SMSkyrim - Encounters.esp
 78 4e     SMSkyrim - Meshes.esp
 79 4f     SexLabRandomSex.esp
 80 50     Beastess Forsworn.esp
 81 51     EstrusChaurus.esp
 82 52     Immersive Arousal.esp
 83 53     SL Deadly Drain.esp
 84 54     SlaveTats.esp
 85 55     Follow me for Sex.esp
 86 56     SLAL_K4Anims.esp
 87 57     Instant Mastery.esp
 88 58     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp


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any way anyone can tell me if my load order is wrong or if files are not compatible together. i get random crashes when performing certain acts.

 

 

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     SkyrimVR.esm
  6  6     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  7  7     SMSkyrim.esp
  8  8     FlowerGirls SE.esm
  9  9     RaceCompatibility.esm
 10  a     CreatureFramework.esm
 11  b     ApachiiHair.esm
 12  c     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 13  d     FlowerGirls SE - BDSM.esm
           hdtHighHeel.esm
 14  e     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 15  f     SexLab.esm
 16 10     SexLabAroused.esm
 17 11     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 18 12     SkyUI_SE.esp
 19 13     FNIS.esp
 20 14     Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
 21 15     WhiterunImmersiveSexualPlayground.esp
 22 16     SexLab More Creatures.esp
 23 17     TBOS.esp
 24 18     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 25 19     Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp
 26 1a     Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp
 27 1b     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 28 1c     ModWhiterun.esp
 29 1d     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
 30 1e     SexLab_Solutions.esp
 31 1f     SLAnimLoader.esp
 32 20     SOS - Grower - Extended.esp
 33 21     SOS_Ho.esp
 34 22     SexLabMatchMaker.esp
 35 23     UIExtensions.esp
 36 24     SexLab Beastess.esp
 37 25     SuccubusRaceLite.esp
 38 26     Lucretia.esp
 39 27     SexLabDefeat.esp
 40 28     HentaiCreatures.esp
 41 29     Better Vampires.esp
 42 2a     SexLab Enchantress.esp
 43 2b     SLALAnimObj.esp
 44 2c     InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
 45 2d     Jinxxed Followers - Lockpick.esp
 46 2e     SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
 47 2f     SofiaFollower.esp
 48 30     SassyGirls.esp
 49 31     SOS - Shop.esp
 50 32     FNISspells.esp
 51 33     HornyCreatures.esp
 52 34     Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
 53 35     SpousesEnhancedSE.esp
 54 36     Vampirelordroyal.esp
 55 37     SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
 56 38     zRitual.esp
 57 39     BVandRoyalBloodline_Patch.esp
 58 3a     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
 59 3b     VL No AoE Drain.esp
 60 3c     Darklilith.esp
 61 3d     YeOlde - MCM Settings.esp
 62 3e     vrik.esp
 63 3f     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 64 40     XPMSE.esp
 65 41     CBBE.esp
 66 42     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 67 43     SGEyebrows.esp
 68 44     SLAdventures.esp
 69 45     SL_Hedonism.esp
 70 46     SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
 71 47     TDF Aroused Rape.esp
 72 48     MageMasterRing_1.0.esp
 73 49     RohZima_AnimObjects.esp
 74 4a     Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
 75 4b     Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp
 76 4c     Gold Spell.esp
 77 4d     SMSkyrim - Encounters.esp
 78 4e     SMSkyrim - Meshes.esp
 79 4f     SexLabRandomSex.esp
 80 50     Beastess Forsworn.esp
 81 51     EstrusChaurus.esp
 82 52     Immersive Arousal.esp
 83 53     SL Deadly Drain.esp
 84 54     SlaveTats.esp
 85 55     Follow me for Sex.esp
 86 56     SLAL_K4Anims.esp
 87 57     Instant Mastery.esp
 88 58     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

 

Can you specify which "certain acts" cause your crashes?  Might help to narrow things down.

 

You also have several of what is essentially the same mod installed.  "Shlongs of skyrim SE light" and "shlongs of skyrim light".  I don't play SE, but I would delete which ever one you don't use.  You also have a lot of addons for SOS to be using the light version.  I would think you should use the full package (pun intended) if your going to use addons.  I imagine the addons where designed with the full SOS in mind, not the light version.

 

You also have CBBE and XPMSE pretty low in the list.  I would consider placing them much higher.

 

But again, if you can specify what actions are causing crashes, it could help narrow things down.  For all I know, none of what I said will fix your problem.







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